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Highlanders 2025

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  • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

    @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2025:

    Yeah, I would be very surprised if Millar was only 85kg….

    Cam Millar is a bit of a protected species amongst some fans, I find.

    While the kid's goal kicking is too notch, there is a lot to be desired around other parts of his game. At the moment there is very little between him and Robinson. Both players have strengths that the other player doesn't. But there are glaring weaknesses with both.

    When Hurley has a shocker he gets slammed. When Millar doesn't play well people tend to find excuses as to why. Just seems like there is a weird protective dynamic with him. That other players aren't given.

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    @SouthernMann some awkward moments for Cam upon return against the Drua yes, however quite often he has been motm for the landers last yr vs the Crusaders and Moana. was Otagos best several games last yr against Manawatu, Canterbury. Taine Robinson just doesn't have the same influence from what I have seen. Happy to be proven wrong

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      @SouthernMann some awkward moments for Cam upon return against the Drua yes, however quite often he has been motm for the landers last yr vs the Crusaders and Moana. was Otagos best several games last yr against Manawatu, Canterbury. Taine Robinson just doesn't have the same influence from what I have seen. Happy to be proven wrong

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      @Grooter said in Highlanders 2025:

      @SouthernMann some awkward moments for Cam upon return against the Drua yes, however quite often he has been motm for the landers last yr vs the Crusaders and Moana. was Otagos best several games last yr against Manawatu, Canterbury. Taine Robinson just doesn't have the same influence from what I have seen. Happy to be proven wrong

      As mentioned. I think he is an ok player. He is our best choice for the foreseeable future. Probably seeing the trjacteory of Mika Muliaina, until he is ready in a good few seasons time. Millar is a limited player though. Kicks well. Passed well. Isn't overly quick. Not a great lateral mover. Not overly strong. Not a great defender If he is our guy for the next three to five seasons. We need to run a style that plays to his strengths. If we are to play a high tempo running game. We need to consider whether his style matches that strategy.

      It was more a comment on him being protected from criticism than having a go at his game. As I've said. I think he is the best choice out of a limited pool for the foreseeable future

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        I think some of Millar's weaknesses have been a little overstated. It is said he doesn't have a running game, but I also don't remember Taine Robinson making a single break this season. Millar showed vast improvements in the NPC, so I think it is a little odd he was totally done away with.

        This season might do him good in the long run, but I also think this is a little bit of a case of Jamie wanting to make a point, and then being overly stubborn.

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          I think some of Millar's weaknesses have been a little overstated. It is said he doesn't have a running game, but I also don't remember Taine Robinson making a single break this season. Millar showed vast improvements in the NPC, so I think it is a little odd he was totally done away with.

          This season might do him good in the long run, but I also think this is a little bit of a case of Jamie wanting to make a point, and then being overly stubborn.

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          @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

          I think some of Millar's weaknesses have been a little overstated. It is said he doesn't have a running game, but I also don't remember Taine Robinson making a single break this season. Millar showed vast improvements in the NPC, so I think it is a little odd he was totally done away with.

          This season might do him good in the long run, but I also think this is a little bit of a case of Jamie wanting to make a point, and then being overly stubborn.

          I'm not arguing for Robinson. Just more saying that Millar is a protected player. For quite a few fans. He doesn't get the same level of scrutiny as other developing players.

          As I've mentioned, he is the best of a reasonably average group of 10s. But he is what we have. Let's work out how to have the team fit around him. May be not have him get isolated defensively on the wing. May be ensure he does have forward support in contact. Have a big bopper beside him as a get out of jail option if he needs it. Promote his skills and hide his limitations.

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            Tangitau returning to the Blues, just might happen, contract details, have a side issue, but damn confident,

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              Tangitau returning to the Blues, just might happen, contract details, have a side issue, but damn confident,

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              @george33 said in Highlanders 2025:

              Tangitau returning to the Blues, just might happen, contract details, have a side issue, but damn confident,

              Would be piss weak of NZ Rugby to allow an under contract player stomp his feet and fuck off a year early. If they want the Highlanders to succeed. They can't let this happen. He just has a two year contract. Make him stick to it. For all intents and purposes he is under contract for 2026.

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                Tangitau returning to the Blues, just might happen, contract details, have a side issue, but damn confident,

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                @george33 said in Highlanders 2025:

                Tangitau returning to the Blues, just might happen, contract details, have a side issue, but damn confident,

                When you say contract details, do you mean he has agreed a contract with the blues or he’s unhappy with something in his current contract?

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                  Tangitau returning to the Blues, just might happen, contract details, have a side issue, but damn confident,

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                  @george33 this isn't the Crusaders allowing their 3rd choice hooker McAlister to leave a year early for game time. Tangitau is Joseph's 1st choice wing. so much so he encouraged Tavatavanawai to move into 12 so their was a Starting spot for him. Finish the length of the contract then be free to do an Izzy dagg

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                    @george33 this isn't the Crusaders allowing their 3rd choice hooker McAlister to leave a year early for game time. Tangitau is Joseph's 1st choice wing. so much so he encouraged Tavatavanawai to move into 12 so their was a Starting spot for him. Finish the length of the contract then be free to do an Izzy dagg

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                    @Grooter I look at is Blues basically let him go for a season, all parties agreed, game time, other wise he would have have stayed at Blues, Clarke, Talea, , but he was always going to return, now Talea moving on, it's most likely will happen.

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                      @Grooter I look at is Blues basically let him go for a season, all parties agreed, game time, other wise he would have have stayed at Blues, Clarke, Talea, , but he was always going to return, now Talea moving on, it's most likely will happen.

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                      @george33 so if Eklund or Riccitelli were to head off shore would Vikena be back to the Blues halfway through his contract too? Didn't know 1 season loans were a thing in Super. suppose if Mo'unga returns to the Crusaders in 2027 Kemara will do a loan spell at the landers 😂

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                        @Grooter I look at is Blues basically let him go for a season, all parties agreed, game time, other wise he would have have stayed at Blues, Clarke, Talea, , but he was always going to return, now Talea moving on, it's most likely will happen.

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                        @george33 said in Highlanders 2025:

                        @Grooter I look at is Blues basically let him go for a season, all parties agreed, game time, other wise he would have have stayed at Blues, Clarke, Talea, , but he was always going to return, now Talea moving on, it's most likely will happen.

                        That is not correct. He was an off contract player. He wasn't let go. He then signed a contract for 25&26. Adults sign employment contracts. He signed an employment contract for two years. He has a responsibility and an obligation to see out his employment contract. After 26. Do what he wants. Heck, even potentially stay. Next year. Fulfill your employment obligation.

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                          @george33 said in Highlanders 2025:

                          @Grooter I look at is Blues basically let him go for a season, all parties agreed, game time, other wise he would have have stayed at Blues, Clarke, Talea, , but he was always going to return, now Talea moving on, it's most likely will happen.

                          That is not correct. He was an off contract player. He wasn't let go. He then signed a contract for 25&26. Adults sign employment contracts. He signed an employment contract for two years. He has a responsibility and an obligation to see out his employment contract. After 26. Do what he wants. Heck, even potentially stay. Next year. Fulfill your employment obligation.

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                          @SouthernMann ok, let's just see how it plays out, of contract yes, didn't sign, yes 2 year contract said who.

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                            @george33 so if Eklund or Riccitelli were to head off shore would Vikena be back to the Blues halfway through his contract too? Didn't know 1 season loans were a thing in Super. suppose if Mo'unga returns to the Crusaders in 2027 Kemara will do a loan spell at the landers 😂

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                            @Grooter Vikena, probably not, think they have there next 2 hookers already lined up,

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                              @SouthernMann ok, let's just see how it plays out, of contract yes, didn't sign, yes 2 year contract said who.

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                              @george33 said in Highlanders 2025:

                              @SouthernMann ok, let's just see how it plays out, of contract yes, didn't sign, yes 2 year contract said who.

                              For someone who talks a lot of shit. You are unable to fact check. He has said it himself. Here is the official announcement

                              https://thehighlanders.co.nz/news/highlanders-confirm-five-players-for-2025new-blog-post/

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                                @george33 said in Highlanders 2025:

                                @SouthernMann ok, let's just see how it plays out, of contract yes, didn't sign, yes 2 year contract said who.

                                For someone who talks a lot of shit. You are unable to fact check. He has said it himself. Here is the official announcement

                                https://thehighlanders.co.nz/news/highlanders-confirm-five-players-for-2025new-blog-post/

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                                george33
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                                @SouthernMann haha ok I actually no the kid , that was last season.

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                                  @Grooter Vikena, probably not, think they have there next 2 hookers already lined up,

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                                  @george33 right. Gotta feel for young winger Harlyn Saunoa hear he's been making every post a winner training with the Blues and being selected for the NZ 20s but I guess he will have to look elsewhere with Tangitau heading back to the Blues as you say.

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                                    @george33 right. Gotta feel for young winger Harlyn Saunoa hear he's been making every post a winner training with the Blues and being selected for the NZ 20s but I guess he will have to look elsewhere with Tangitau heading back to the Blues as you say.

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                                    george33
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                                    @Grooter yip he will be very close, in my opinion, remember Caleb Clarke still hasn't re-signed either, maybe he might head to Moana, bloody hope not tho.

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                                      @SouthernMann ok, let's just see how it plays out, of contract yes, didn't sign, yes 2 year contract said who.

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                                      @george33 said in Highlanders 2025:

                                      @SouthernMann ok, let's just see how it plays out, of contract yes, didn't sign, yes 2 year contract said who.

                                      Can you for the love of god slow down and use entire sentences so we might be able to follow what you are actually trying to say?

                                      Are you saying he didn’t sign a contract with the highlanders?

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                                        @SouthernMann haha ok I actually no the kid , that was last season.

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                                        @george33 said in Highlanders 2025:

                                        @SouthernMann haha ok I actually no the kid , that was last season.

                                        Cool story. The published facts say he signed a two year contract.

                                        You were also very bullish in saying there was no way he was going to Dunedin when the rumour of him initially coming down surfaced.

                                        You're just coming across as a bit of a fuckwit to be fair.

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                                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                          @george33 said in Highlanders 2025:

                                          @SouthernMann ok, let's just see how it plays out, of contract yes, didn't sign, yes 2 year contract said who.

                                          Can you for the love of god slow down and use entire sentences so we might be able to follow what you are actually trying to say?

                                          Are you saying he didn’t sign a contract with the highlanders?

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                                          @Kiwiwomble obviously he signed a contract, but 2 years no., he's a Auckland boy who came your way for game time , and got it, brilliant, think he only got 1-2 starts with Blues last season., he's my bolter for ABs , probably depends with witch way All Black coaches are thinking with Talea.

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