Highlanders 2025
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Could be an option seems that if Nareki is back next year, and so is Lowe then we’ve got one outside back spot available. Which could be his, given the amount preference of Filimone over Manson might suggest that Filimone joins in the main squad too.
I don't see too many other off contract outside backs around the country that would be a good fit or even midfielders. Aumua and Ennor are going overseas. Springer has re signed at the Crusaders. Liam Coombs Fabling and Daniel Sinkinson are solid squad members but don't strike me as the types to head south over signing at their franchises or going abroad. Grindley at the Blues might be a good pickup. Haven't seen enough of Gideon Wrampling to comment on him. But I'd probably go for blokes who have been in the environment this season and then have Tayne Hervey and Kyan Rangitura as WTG members for next season. Maybe Feletoni Peni too.
Aidan Morgan would provide good depth at 10 too. Could he be a starter? I'm not sure. - haven't seen enough of him. James O'Connor is off contract and could be a good mentor for the young 10's.
Just in terms of forward pack there's some exciting prospects who are off contract though. Josh Taulua at the Canes is a Monster, Siale Lauaki is a young Tighthead with a promising future stuck behind two All Blacks. Finley Brewis at the Crusaders is in the same boat. While George Bell could in theory be lured back South given the rise of Mouanau (this one could be a stretch). As others have mentioned Malachi Wrampling Alec is another one for the future we should try and grab.
Anyone got a sense of the ceilings for Jack Sexton and Ben Lopas? They're too young local props who look decent but haven't seen much of them to know. Could Harry Taylor be the bloke to replace Hayden Michaels too? He's young but has a massive engine.
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Could be an option seems that if Nareki is back next year, and so is Lowe then we’ve got one outside back spot available. Which could be his, given the amount preference of Filimone over Manson might suggest that Filimone joins in the main squad too.
I don't see too many other off contract outside backs around the country that would be a good fit or even midfielders. Aumua and Ennor are going overseas. Springer has re signed at the Crusaders. Liam Coombs Fabling and Daniel Sinkinson are solid squad members but don't strike me as the types to head south over signing at their franchises or going abroad. Grindley at the Blues might be a good pickup. Haven't seen enough of Gideon Wrampling to comment on him. But I'd probably go for blokes who have been in the environment this season and then have Tayne Hervey and Kyan Rangitura as WTG members for next season. Maybe Feletoni Peni too.
Aidan Morgan would provide good depth at 10 too. Could he be a starter? I'm not sure. - haven't seen enough of him. James O'Connor is off contract and could be a good mentor for the young 10's.
Just in terms of forward pack there's some exciting prospects who are off contract though. Josh Taulua at the Canes is a Monster, Siale Lauaki is a young Tighthead with a promising future stuck behind two All Blacks. Finley Brewis at the Crusaders is in the same boat. While George Bell could in theory be lured back South given the rise of Mouanau (this one could be a stretch). As others have mentioned Malachi Wrampling Alec is another one for the future we should try and grab.
Anyone got a sense of the ceilings for Jack Sexton and Ben Lopas? They're too young local props who look decent but haven't seen much of them to know. Could Harry Taylor be the bloke to replace Hayden Michaels too? He's young but has a massive engine.
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
Could be an option seems that if Nareki is back next year, and so is Lowe then we’ve got one outside back spot available. Which could be his, given the amount preference of Filimone over Manson might suggest that Filimone joins in the main squad too.
I don't see too many other off contract outside backs around the country that would be a good fit or even midfielders. Aumua and Ennor are going overseas. Springer has re signed at the Crusaders. Liam Coombs Fabling and Daniel Sinkinson are solid squad members but don't strike me as the types to head south over signing at their franchises or going abroad. Grindley at the Blues might be a good pickup. Haven't seen enough of Gideon Wrampling to comment on him. But I'd probably go for blokes who have been in the environment this season and then have Tayne Hervey and Kyan Rangitura as WTG members for next season.
Aidan Morgan would provide good depth at 10 too. Could he be a starter? I'm not sure. - haven't seen enough of him. James O'Connor is off contract and could be a good mentor for the young 10's.
Just in terms of forward pack there's some exciting prospects who are off contract though. Josh Taulua at the Canes is a Monster, Siale Lauaki is a young Tighthead with a promising future stuck behind two All Blacks. Finley Brewis at the Crusaders is in the same boat. While George Bell could in theory be lured back South given the rise of Mouanau (this one could be a stretch). As others have mentioned Malachi Wrampling Alec is another one for the future we should try and grab.
Anyone got a sense of the ceilings for Jack Sexton and Ben Lopas? They're too young local props who look decent but haven't seen much of them to know. Could Harry Taylor be the bloke to replace Hayden Michaels too? He's young but has a massive engine.
Ennor going overseas I am not sure that is a done deal,I believe Ennor might be staying.
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@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/highlanders-lean-on-youth-for-crusaders-clash
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/highlanders-lean-on-youth-for-crusaders-clash
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
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@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/highlanders-lean-on-youth-for-crusaders-clash
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/highlanders-lean-on-youth-for-crusaders-clash
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
We need to be careful about cutting several contracts short. Hastie is still under contract for next year.
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@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/highlanders-lean-on-youth-for-crusaders-clash
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
We need to be careful about cutting several contracts short. Hastie is still under contract for next year.
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/highlanders-lean-on-youth-for-crusaders-clash
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
We need to be careful about cutting several contracts short. Hastie is still under contract for next year.
From what I hear, we are well under our spending cap. If we have three halfbacks on the books, then there is no harm in cutting Hastie. What this probably speaks to, is the abominable decisions in giving promising, but hardly world-beating youngsters three-year contracts.
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@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
Could be an option seems that if Nareki is back next year, and so is Lowe then we’ve got one outside back spot available. Which could be his, given the amount preference of Filimone over Manson might suggest that Filimone joins in the main squad too.
I don't see too many other off contract outside backs around the country that would be a good fit or even midfielders. Aumua and Ennor are going overseas. Springer has re signed at the Crusaders. Liam Coombs Fabling and Daniel Sinkinson are solid squad members but don't strike me as the types to head south over signing at their franchises or going abroad. Grindley at the Blues might be a good pickup. Haven't seen enough of Gideon Wrampling to comment on him. But I'd probably go for blokes who have been in the environment this season and then have Tayne Hervey and Kyan Rangitura as WTG members for next season.
Aidan Morgan would provide good depth at 10 too. Could he be a starter? I'm not sure. - haven't seen enough of him. James O'Connor is off contract and could be a good mentor for the young 10's.
Just in terms of forward pack there's some exciting prospects who are off contract though. Josh Taulua at the Canes is a Monster, Siale Lauaki is a young Tighthead with a promising future stuck behind two All Blacks. Finley Brewis at the Crusaders is in the same boat. While George Bell could in theory be lured back South given the rise of Mouanau (this one could be a stretch). As others have mentioned Malachi Wrampling Alec is another one for the future we should try and grab.
Anyone got a sense of the ceilings for Jack Sexton and Ben Lopas? They're too young local props who look decent but haven't seen much of them to know. Could Harry Taylor be the bloke to replace Hayden Michaels too? He's young but has a massive engine.
Ennor going overseas I am not sure that is a done deal,I believe Ennor might be staying.
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@Chris Morgan definitely a starter, would be good with Fakatava
@upthelanders maybe Morgan is an option although I've got a contact who has gotten little things right before such as who are our recent wider training squad members, told me about Lennox, Loft back in the summer. He reckons landers are trying to work something out with Josh Jacomb. Meihana Grindlay very likely to be Gilbert's replacement.
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@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/highlanders-lean-on-youth-for-crusaders-clash
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
We need to be careful about cutting several contracts short. Hastie is still under contract for next year.
From what I hear, we are well under our spending cap. If we have three halfbacks on the books, then there is no harm in cutting Hastie. What this probably speaks to, is the abominable decisions in giving promising, but hardly world-beating youngsters three-year contracts.
@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/highlanders-lean-on-youth-for-crusaders-clash
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
We need to be careful about cutting several contracts short. Hastie is still under contract for next year.
From what I hear, we are well under our spending cap. If we have three halfbacks on the books, then there is no harm in cutting Hastie. What this probably speaks to, is the abominable decisions in giving promising, but hardly world-beating youngsters three-year contracts.
It is a bad look cutting a whole lot of contracts early from a reputation perspective. In terms of Hastie. He hasn't performed poorly. The team needs to look like it is a good safe environment landing spot foe players. Culling guys may spook players.
Interesting @Grooter says about trying to get Jacomb out of the second year of his Chiefs contract. I know you were the lad who dropped the departing players a few days before it was published last year. So some good runs on the board. Hopefully this reflects a push from NZR to be a bit of a guiding hand, and have a decent spread of players.
Grindlay would be a decent pick up. Good that Nareki is sticking around. The Nareki, Tangitau and JRK back three with Hurley being a 30 minute man is one I'm keen to see next year.
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@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/highlanders-lean-on-youth-for-crusaders-clash
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
We need to be careful about cutting several contracts short. Hastie is still under contract for next year.
From what I hear, we are well under our spending cap. If we have three halfbacks on the books, then there is no harm in cutting Hastie. What this probably speaks to, is the abominable decisions in giving promising, but hardly world-beating youngsters three-year contracts.
It is a bad look cutting a whole lot of contracts early from a reputation perspective. In terms of Hastie. He hasn't performed poorly. The team needs to look like it is a good safe environment landing spot foe players. Culling guys may spook players.
Interesting @Grooter says about trying to get Jacomb out of the second year of his Chiefs contract. I know you were the lad who dropped the departing players a few days before it was published last year. So some good runs on the board. Hopefully this reflects a push from NZR to be a bit of a guiding hand, and have a decent spread of players.
Grindlay would be a decent pick up. Good that Nareki is sticking around. The Nareki, Tangitau and JRK back three with Hurley being a 30 minute man is one I'm keen to see next year.
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/highlanders-lean-on-youth-for-crusaders-clash
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
We need to be careful about cutting several contracts short. Hastie is still under contract for next year.
From what I hear, we are well under our spending cap. If we have three halfbacks on the books, then there is no harm in cutting Hastie. What this probably speaks to, is the abominable decisions in giving promising, but hardly world-beating youngsters three-year contracts.
It is a bad look cutting a whole lot of contracts early from a reputation perspective. In terms of Hastie. He hasn't performed poorly. The team needs to look like it is a good safe environment landing spot foe players. Culling guys may spook players.
Yeah I agree… though in a world where he was fourth cab, would Hastie want to stay anyway? Wonder if there is a world where we could do a bit of a swapsies with the Canes or Blues?
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Replacement for Gilbert would be a loose term? Who knows what we need from a 12/13 perspective. If Tele'a doesn’t stick around Grindlay is a fairly similar player.
Yeah I agree with @Bovidae you can't just boot guys without paying them out. Unless a new home is found for them. Hastie could be an option to be a third halfback at the Chiefs. That could assist bargaining with a potential Jacomb move.
Lowe's recent form could also be career saving as well.
Also, Waisake Salibu was with the team during pre-season. I wonder if they are still tracking him.
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Replacement for Gilbert would be a loose term? Who knows what we need from a 12/13 perspective. If Tele'a doesn’t stick around Grindlay is a fairly similar player.
Yeah I agree with @Bovidae you can't just boot guys without paying them out. Unless a new home is found for them. Hastie could be an option to be a third halfback at the Chiefs. That could assist bargaining with a potential Jacomb move.
Lowe's recent form could also be career saving as well.
Also, Waisake Salibu was with the team during pre-season. I wonder if they are still tracking him.
Assuming Lennox is signed next season, I'm guessing JJ feels that Tangitau, Manson, Lowe, and Nareki can cover wing. With Te Hiwi, Whaanga, Big Jim, Kneepkens, and Lennox as backup options in a pinch (for example, Hurley at fullback and Kneepkens shifting to wing). Te Hiwi covered wing this season for half a game. Depending on the mix maybe Filimone gets the final wing spot if we do have one available / don't recruit another loose forward.
Given TUJ is off contract at the end of next year and will be 28 or 29, you'd have to assume he'll head overseas. While Telea is presently 50/50 on staying or going, I think Grindlay makes a lot of sense. Te Hiwi has yet to kick on, and there's no guarantee we keep him post-2026. If that is the case, suddenly for 2027 you're potentially looking at a Whaanga–Big Jim combo with a raw young Tayne Hervey on the bench.
Lowe's form has been one of the biggest turn arounds I can recall in recent years of a player no one rated. Given he's our second best try scorer for the season and he clearly loves the deep south (and a long term stable contract) then I'd give him another couple of years. He's probably a great squad player and in a pinch can cover midfield too.
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I'm not sure us sending you Jacomb, who we do want, and getting a half back, who you don't want, makes for a very good deal for us.
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Assuming Lennox is signed next season, I'm guessing JJ feels that Tangitau, Manson, Lowe, and Nareki can cover wing. With Te Hiwi, Whaanga, Big Jim, Kneepkens, and Lennox as backup options in a pinch (for example, Hurley at fullback and Kneepkens shifting to wing). Te Hiwi covered wing this season for half a game. Depending on the mix maybe Filimone gets the final wing spot if we do have one available / don't recruit another loose forward.
Given TUJ is off contract at the end of next year and will be 28 or 29, you'd have to assume he'll head overseas. While Telea is presently 50/50 on staying or going, I think Grindlay makes a lot of sense. Te Hiwi has yet to kick on, and there's no guarantee we keep him post-2026. If that is the case, suddenly for 2027 you're potentially looking at a Whaanga–Big Jim combo with a raw young Tayne Hervey on the bench.
Lowe's form has been one of the biggest turn arounds I can recall in recent years of a player no one rated. Given he's our second best try scorer for the season and he clearly loves the deep south (and a long term stable contract) then I'd give him another couple of years. He's probably a great squad player and in a pinch can cover midfield too.
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
Assuming Lennox is signed next season, I'm guessing JJ feels that Tangitau, Manson, Lowe, and Nareki can cover wing. With Te Hiwi, Whaanga, Big Jim, Kneepkens, and Lennox as backup options in a pinch (for example, Hurley at fullback and Kneepkens shifting to wing). Te Hiwi covered wing this season for half a game. Depending on the mix maybe Filimone gets the final wing spot if we do have one available / don't recruit another loose forward.
Given TUJ is off contract at the end of next year and will be 28 or 29, you'd have to assume he'll head overseas. While Telea is presently 50/50 on staying or going, I think Grindlay makes a lot of sense. Te Hiwi has yet to kick on, and there's no guarantee we keep him post-2026. If that is the case, suddenly for 2027 you're potentially looking at a Whaanga–Big Jim combo with a raw young Tayne Hervey on the bench.
Lowe's form has been one of the biggest turn arounds I can recall in recent years of a player no one rated. Given he's our second best try scorer for the season and he clearly loves the deep south (and a long term stable contract) then I'd give him another couple of years. He's probably a great squad player and in a pinch can cover midfield too.
I'd want to leave at least one outside back spot open for the NPC. See which random guy turns up and rips it up. There will be one. I really want to see Manson show great defensive improvement during the NPC. His pace is just too handy to ignore. Whether it is Rangitutia down in Dunedin or someone out of Counties, BoP or Ta$man who knows. Interested to see what they do with Harvey next year. A lot of faith in Whaanga, and interested to see whether the Landers have been burnt by the likes of Michaels, Hastie, Te Hiwi and others by easily dishing put long-term deals.
@gt12 McKenzie re-signed for four more years. As it stands that is Jacomb until he is 28. If he is seen as our best youngish 10, being stuck behind McKenzie until he is 28 isn't great for his career. But, fair Hastie for Jacomb isn't the best deal. Just good for NZ Rugby.
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I'm not sure us sending you Jacomb, who we do want, and getting a half back, who you don't want, makes for a very good deal for us.
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@cliff said in Highlanders 2025:
@gt12 they should give us ratumaituvuki kneepkens or tangitau
Your bench 10 for our best outside backs? When you have Kyren Taumoefolau, Lerory Carter, Narawa and ETS. I think you're good.
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@cliff said in Highlanders 2025:
@gt12 they should give us ratumaituvuki kneepkens or tangitau
Your bench 10 for our best outside backs? When you have Kyren Taumoefolau, Lerory Carter, Narawa and ETS. I think you're good.
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@cliff said in Highlanders 2025:
@gt12 they should give us ratumaituvuki kneepkens or tangitau
Your bench 10 for our best outside backs? When you have Kyren Taumoefolau, Lerory Carter, Narawa and ETS. I think you're good.
Wasn't Poihipi ahead of Jacomb last year?
