All Blacks vs Fiji
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Lol anthem so bad it made the news
I used that time to go to the bar.
@Kruse said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Lol anthem so bad it made the news
I used that time to go to the bar.
It started off poorly but towards the end was better
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Lol anthem so bad it made the news
I used that time to go to the bar.
@Kruse said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Lol anthem so bad it made the news
I used that time to go to the bar.
Kruse is my spirit animal
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Yes Beaudan IMO looks better off the bench. LJ is good defensively, good at LO but hard to gauge against Fiji who did not contest, but not really an impact player, Niggles may be better off bench and less effective tackler but they are otherwise fighting for same role (and IMO EB is better at 6 than 7).
Not mentioned much here I think but Aumuas no look passing was so sharp and effective! Even Beauden could learn from that (BB still sometimes doesn't delay but goes for ye old hospital pass). You can see why they like Wallace off the bench. They're using Ardie a huge amount as a linker he is basically another 12 minus the kicking. Man that was the best ALB performance for ages, he was really aggro and assertive. I could be wrong but Proctor looks like he has the game against tighter tougher midfielders as well, classy. He's not a tank though. France or SA might be interesting.
Did anyone else think Darry played well? Showed some good hands, energy and reflexes methinks.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
He's not a tank though.
He looks to be at least as big as Ioane, if not bigger. Definitely not someone I would've ever thought would be considered not big enough.
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Its a pity Tosi wasn't better in the scum. He was VG during super rugby but struiggled in his first test. Because he offers everything that Newell lacks around the field. And more than most TH props
I would work on Tosi's scrumaging. As Newell is unlikely to offer much else even with work. Great in the scrum but limited elsewhere
@Winger said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Its a pity Tosi wasn't better in the scum. He was VG during super rugby but struiggled in his first test. Because he offers everything that Newell lacks around the field. And more than most TH props
I would work on Tosi's scrumaging. As Newell is unlikely to offer much else even with work. Great in the scrum but limited elsewhere
Tosi getting poor raps for his scrummaging seems based merely on scrum worsening when he came on, rather than technical observation. He was on opposite side from camera, so tricky on latter.
Another thing which changed was Darry coming on and going to TH lock. He wasn’t good there for Blues, notably against Saders, but things worked well once he and Patty T swapped sides.
Scooter is a great LH lock, but Tosi would likely have looked miles better with him behind him.
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And some of our props were shown up around the field by their reolacements, boy we are lucky to have these 4, now to find more locks..
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Tosi is definitely a project player. He was playing 8 a few years ago so let’s give the guy a bit of time to get used to scrummaging at international level. He’s come so far in the space of two years for the Canes so if he can show the same development for the ABs, we could have a real weapon on our hands by the World Cup.
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There are times when I come here and feel like I must have watched a completely different game to others.
Thought Blackadder was good. He showed more running and linking than any loose forward in our first 3 tests. Yes, short of a gallop, but that's to be expected. Yeah, it's only an understrength Fiji. But for chrissakes people are claiming he lost the ball twice because he made ground and the cleaners didn't get there? terrible play getting yourself isolated with all that go-forward that people have been crying out for there mate, better reign it in.
Sititi looked good too, but needs an even stronger disclaimer as that's against an understrength Fiji that were beaten about 40 minutes before he even took the field.
Jacobson won some lineouts; against an understrength Fiji who weren't really competing. Doesn't really strike me as a compelling argument. I don't really see why you would pick all three of Dalton, Cane, Jacobson.
Proctor is getting raved about, but I saw several instances where he didn't find his outsides - pretty similar to those that created discussion of Ioane being dropped last week...against a far better side. I thought he played solidly, and generally a debutante choosing to hang onto the ball rather than throw a pass he's not confident of isn't a bad thing - but fuck me the provincial bias in posting is strong this year.
ALB was good.
Clarke was good.
Aumua was good.
Hope Ratima's head is okay. -
Can either Reiko or Clarke play 14, or can both only play 11?
With Clarke and Reiko you've got two big, very quick wingers.
With Proctor at 13, you've you got his provincial partnership with Jordie and a center who really looks to feed his wingers. Tempting, but probably won't happen.@Frank said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Can either Reiko or Clarke play 14, or can both only play 11?
With Clarke and Reiko you've got two big, very quick wingers.
With Proctor at 13, you've you got his provincial partnership with Jordie and a center who really looks to feed his wingers. Tempting, but probably won't happen.Give Reiko and Proctor a go at center. The better distributor gets the start against SA.
Ratima-DMac-JB/ALB is strong.Could start Reiko 13, mid game shift to wing, then Proctor on
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I thought Perofeta was good.
Devo deserves more game time -
Guys we are on an upward curve.
Post 2019 we had:
No props
No midfield
No scrum
No goal kickerBarrett, Patty T, Vaai and Darry looking solid
Sort out 6 and 13
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Guys we are on an upward curve.
Post 2019 we had:
No props
No midfield
No scrum
No goal kickerBarrett, Patty T, Vaai and Darry looking solid
Sort out 6 and 13
Steady on
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Savea - Ratima/Roigard/Hotham sniping combo is a weapon
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Guys we are on an upward curve.
Post 2019 we had:
No props
No midfield
No scrum
No goal kickerBarrett, Patty T, Vaai and Darry looking solid
Sort out 6 and 13
Steady on
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@MN5 Looked good to me.
Belonged@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@MN5 Looked good to me.
BelongedJury is out.
It was against Fiji. Not Ireland. Not SA. Not France…..
The game was well and truly won by the time he had a run.
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I can tell by the look in the eyes from 5000 km away looking at Sky Go.
The turnover sold it -
I can tell by the look in the eyes from 5000 km away looking at Sky Go.
The turnover sold it@BerniesCorner according to commentators the AB’s first in 67 minutes!
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There are times when I come here and feel like I must have watched a completely different game to others.
Thought Blackadder was good. He showed more running and linking than any loose forward in our first 3 tests. Yes, short of a gallop, but that's to be expected. Yeah, it's only an understrength Fiji. But for chrissakes people are claiming he lost the ball twice because he made ground and the cleaners didn't get there? terrible play getting yourself isolated with all that go-forward that people have been crying out for there mate, better reign it in.
Sititi looked good too, but needs an even stronger disclaimer as that's against an understrength Fiji that were beaten about 40 minutes before he even took the field.
Jacobson won some lineouts; against an understrength Fiji who weren't really competing. Doesn't really strike me as a compelling argument. I don't really see why you would pick all three of Dalton, Cane, Jacobson.
Proctor is getting raved about, but I saw several instances where he didn't find his outsides - pretty similar to those that created discussion of Ioane being dropped last week...against a far better side. I thought he played solidly, and generally a debutante choosing to hang onto the ball rather than throw a pass he's not confident of isn't a bad thing - but fuck me the provincial bias in posting is strong this year.
ALB was good.
Clarke was good.
Aumua was good.
Hope Ratima's head is okay.@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
- but fuck me the provincial bias in posting is strong this year.
Provincial bias = someone having a different viewpoint to you
Regarding Proctor and not passing, Centres shouldn't always pass no matter what. my view is Proctor got it right this week. Reiko didn't last week
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Stats
Lineouts - NZ 17/17; Fiji 8/10
Scrums - NZ 6/6; Fiji 7/11
Tackles - NZ 114/139 (82%); Fiji 145/200 (73%)
Penalties - NZ 8; Fiji 8
Rucks won - NZ 87/89 (97%); Fiji 72/74 (97%) -
Some notable individual stats
Tackles / missed tackles
Blackadder 7/4
Proctor 7/3
Hotham 7/3
S. Barrett 6/2
Aumua 4/2Jacobson 8/1
ALB 8/1
Reece 7/1
Williams 7/1
Bell 7/1
Newell 6/1Sititi 8/0
Savea 7/0
Tosl 6/0
