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All Blacks vs Argentina I

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    Anyone think the following were net positive?
    Newell.
    Reece.
    Ethan.
    ALB.
    Savea.
    Jordie.
    TJP.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    Anyone think the following were net positive?
    Newell.
    Reece.
    Ethan.
    ALB.
    Savea.
    Jordie.
    TJP.

    Add Codie Taylor to that list. He was poor aswell.

    DMac is an issue aswell, he’s too erratic still.

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      Yuck. Three opensides doesn't work, especially when one is only there to inspect rucks and/or give away penalties.

      Darry played well but Vaai is a non entity, missed Patch and Scooter.

      Clarke would've made a difference and as well as Perenara played we need better distribution to get go forward, especially with such an unthreatening pack.

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      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

        We just lost one of our two most winnable games in the tournament , no way we win the championship now

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        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        We just lost one of our two most winnable games in the tournament , no way we win the championship now

        The games against South Africa, England away, Ireland and France are a big concern now. They could be very ugly if we persist with that side.

        Hell, I'm even a worried now the Aussies might have a shot at the Bledisloe.

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

          Where’s Vern?

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          @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

          Where’s Vern?

          Yeah, Ryan’s in for a fun week after being arrogant to the media for this one.

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          • MiketheSnowM Offline
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            Ouch

            From my vantage point NZ absolutely have the cattle

            This was piss poor selection and tactics putting good players under unnecessary pressure which resulted in poor decision making and inaccuracy

            The pack are missing a dog like PSTD. A nasty dog in the Etsebeth mould would be even better.

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              Coaching brilliance brings on Rieko and Jordan with 15mins left and no opportunity to do anything because we keep giving away possession.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

                Where’s Vern?

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                @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

                This. Last 15 minutes was worse than against Sth Africa at Twickenham - if that's even possible.

                Is it just one forwards coach in charge or is it a committee of 3 or 4?

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                  Welcome to the pressure cooker of coaching the abs razor ,

                  This could get ugly quickly if he doesn’t turn it around

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                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                    We just lost one of our two most winnable games in the tournament , no way we win the championship now

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                    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                    We just lost one of our two most winnable games in the tournament , no way we win the championship now

                    Sadly, I’m old enough to remember a time when the ABs would never have lost that game, simply because they would be too scared to lose. Unfortunately mediocrity has become normal for this team. I had hoped for more from Razor’s appointment.

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                    • His BobnessH Offline
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                      Too many cooks in the kitchen, I suspect. And no mongrel in the pack.

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                        It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

                        This. Last 15 minutes was worse than against Sth Africa at Twickenham - if that's even possible.

                        Is it just one forwards coach in charge or is it a committee of 3 or 4?

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                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                        It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

                        This. Last 15 minutes was worse than against Sth Africa at Twickenham - if that's even possible.

                        Is it just one forwards coach in charge or is it a committee of 3 or 4?

                        Robertson is responsible for selecting three 6.5s in the back row. Need a big 6, Blackadder is busy but ineffective. That miss off the scrum cost the game.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          Yuck. Three opensides doesn't work, especially when one is only there to inspect rucks and/or give away penalties.

                          Darry played well but Vaai is a non entity, missed Patch and Scooter.

                          Clarke would've made a difference and as well as Perenara played we need better distribution to get go forward, especially with such an unthreatening pack.

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                          @Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                          Darry played well but Vaai is a non entity, missed Patch and Scooter.

                          Vaai will become a 100 test AB as long as Ryan remains forwards coach. Not sure what he sees in him.

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                          • KirwanK Kirwan

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

                            This. Last 15 minutes was worse than against Sth Africa at Twickenham - if that's even possible.

                            Is it just one forwards coach in charge or is it a committee of 3 or 4?

                            Robertson is responsible for selecting three 6.5s in the back row. Need a big 6, Blackadder is busy but ineffective. That miss off the scrum cost the game.

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                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                            Robertson is responsible for selecting three 6.5s in the back row.

                            You can get away with it at Super level not at test level

                            I was hoping Razor didn't have to learn that the hard way..

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                              Robertson is responsible for selecting three 6.5s in the back row.

                              You can get away with it at Super level not at test level

                              I was hoping Razor didn't have to learn that the hard way..

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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                              @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                              Robertson is responsible for selecting three 6.5s in the back row.

                              You can get away with it at Super level not at test level

                              I was hoping Razor didn't have to learn that the hard way..

                              I was hoping Razor didn't have to learn it at all.

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                Ouch

                                From my vantage point NZ absolutely have the cattle

                                This was piss poor selection and tactics putting good players under unnecessary pressure which resulted in poor decision making and inaccuracy

                                The pack are missing a dog like PSTD. A nasty dog in the Etsebeth mould would be even better.

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                                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                Ouch

                                From my vantage point NZ absolutely have the cattle

                                This was piss poor selection and tactics putting good players under unnecessary pressure which resulted in poor decision making and inaccuracy

                                The pack are missing a dog like PSTD. A nasty dog in the Etsebeth mould would be even better.

                                You appear to have dredged up a post from the dark days of the Fozzie era. Lazy posting mate, you're better than that

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  Ouch

                                  From my vantage point NZ absolutely have the cattle

                                  This was piss poor selection and tactics putting good players under unnecessary pressure which resulted in poor decision making and inaccuracy

                                  The pack are missing a dog like PSTD. A nasty dog in the Etsebeth mould would be even better.

                                  You appear to have dredged up a post from the dark days of the Fozzie era. Lazy posting mate, you're better than that

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                                  @canefan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                  Ouch

                                  From my vantage point NZ absolutely have the cattle

                                  This was piss poor selection and tactics putting good players under unnecessary pressure which resulted in poor decision making and inaccuracy

                                  The pack are missing a dog like PSTD. A nasty dog in the Etsebeth mould would be even better.

                                  You appear to have dredged up a post from the dark days of the Fozzie era. Lazy posting mate, you're better than that

                                  :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                                  • His BobnessH His Bobness

                                    Too many cooks in the kitchen, I suspect. And no mongrel in the pack.

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                                    @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    Too many cooks in the kitchen, I suspect. And no mongrel in the pack.

                                    From the outside, it feels like it's a bunch of unusually insecure middle-aged pals perpetually slapping each other on the back for fear of one of their gang not feeling the love, rather than than a group of utterly ruthless professionals preparing a bunch of hungry young men for the brutal arena of Test Rugby.

                                    But I might be being harsh.

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                                      At least Razor’s honest about the performance……. Looks pretty shocked

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                                      • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

                                        At least Razor’s honest about the performance……. Looks pretty shocked

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                                        @Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                        At least Razor’s honest about the performance……. Looks pretty shocked clueless

                                        Fixed

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                                          How? H-h-how??? Just, how???

                                          That came down to three moments. Two gifted tries and a series of awful passes.

                                          Does D-Mac need to take a spell and bring Plummer in from outside the squad? We just have zero punch. Personly I thought there were some rough PKs against us. Not sure what SlackBladder did in the lineout other than compete for the ball to warrant a PK and there we some rucks such as the last PK where Sititi was sitting out the back doing sweet FA to be involved yet gets pinged. The fact is, Argentina should have been within 14 points of this game yet we managed to manufacture them a win. FML.

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