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      TJ raving about Harry Godfrey.

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        TJ raving about Harry Godfrey.

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        @Canes4life

        He has strong Beauden Barrett vibes to me.

        I know this is a strange thing to say about a guy who has more than 100 caps, has won super rugby as the starting 10, and is currently our preferred 10, but Barrett has never really found a position where he can show his skillset appropriately (apart from Goldenballs super sub). He's a fully amazing rugby player, but he's never really been in the conversation for best ever at 10 or at FB.

        With respect to this player, I hope he gets a chance to choose a position and can commit to it. He looks an incredible footballer, and we will see how he developed, but I hope we gets the chance to become a 10 or a 15.

        My opinion btw is that the Canes would be mad to move him. Love looks a more natural 15 but either way they've got their 10/15 partnership for years if they don't fuck it up.

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          @Canes4life

          He has strong Beauden Barrett vibes to me.

          I know this is a strange thing to say about a guy who has more than 100 caps, has won super rugby as the starting 10, and is currently our preferred 10, but Barrett has never really found a position where he can show his skillset appropriately (apart from Goldenballs super sub). He's a fully amazing rugby player, but he's never really been in the conversation for best ever at 10 or at FB.

          With respect to this player, I hope he gets a chance to choose a position and can commit to it. He looks an incredible footballer, and we will see how he developed, but I hope we gets the chance to become a 10 or a 15.

          My opinion btw is that the Canes would be mad to move him. Love looks a more natural 15 but either way they've got their 10/15 partnership for years if they don't fuck it up.

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          @gt12 as good as Smith was, he wasn't an out and out playmaker like Roigard (and the likes of Weepu), so hopefully the combined style will work better.

          Which leads me back to my drum that DMac should have had a go at halfback.

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            A playmaking axis of 9. Roigard 10. Godfrey and 15. Love going forward is pretty bloody decent for the Canes, hope they sign all three on long term contracts.

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              @gt12 as good as Smith was, he wasn't an out and out playmaker like Roigard (and the likes of Weepu), so hopefully the combined style will work better.

              Which leads me back to my drum that DMac should have had a go at halfback.

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              @Bones said in Super Rugby 2025:

              @gt12 as good as Smith was, he wasn't an out and out playmaker like Roigard (and the likes of Weepu), so hopefully the combined style will work better.

              Which leads me back to my drum that DMac should have had a go at halfback.

              In the modern game, you can make a good argument that the key playmaker is the 9 anyway, so when you look at it like that, the Canes are very very well placed.

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                @Bones said in Super Rugby 2025:

                @gt12 as good as Smith was, he wasn't an out and out playmaker like Roigard (and the likes of Weepu), so hopefully the combined style will work better.

                Which leads me back to my drum that DMac should have had a go at halfback.

                In the modern game, you can make a good argument that the key playmaker is the 9 anyway, so when you look at it like that, the Canes are very very well placed.

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                @gt12 said in Super Rugby 2025:

                @Bones said in Super Rugby 2025:

                @gt12 as good as Smith was, he wasn't an out and out playmaker like Roigard (and the likes of Weepu), so hopefully the combined style will work better.

                Which leads me back to my drum that DMac should have had a go at halfback.

                In the modern game, you can make a good argument that the key playmaker is the 9 anyway, so when you look at it like that, the Canes are very very well placed.

                And the chiefs - they're doing it very nicely with the 9 running the cutter early doors before bringing in DMac later in the game.

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                • Number 10N Online
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                    In protest at the preposterous scoring system for the Player of the Year Award, I have re-scored it using a neutral 3,2,1 system, based on my own feeling. I have seen just about every game, though followed the actually scoring for a handful of these.

                    Round One
                    CRU v HUR
                    Preston - 3
                    Fineanganofo - 2
                    Reece - 1

                    WAR v HIG
                    Tavatavanawai - 3
                    Porecki - 2
                    Amone - 1

                    DRU v BRU
                    Reimer - 3
                    Karawalevu - 2
                    Hooper - 1

                    BLU v CHI
                    McKenzie - 3
                    Ah Kuoi - 2
                    Jacobson - 1

                    FOR v MOA
                    Donaldson - 3
                    Williams - 2
                    Havili Talitui - 1

                    Round Two
                    CHI v CRU
                    Tupaea - 3
                    Parker - 2
                    Vaa’i - 1

                    RED v MOA
                    McReight - 3
                    Taumoefolau - 2
                    Wilson - 1

                    HUR v DRU
                    Godfrey - 3
                    M Murray - 2
                    Kirifi - 1

                    HIG v BLU
                    Hurley - 3
                    Tavatavanawai - 2
                    Fakatava - 1

                    BRU v FOR
                    White - 3
                    Tizzano - 2
                    Cale - 1

                    Round Three
                    MOA v HIG
                    Savea - 3
                    Hastie - 2
                    Sanerivi - 1

                    WAR v DRU
                    Gleeson - 3
                    Karawalevu - 2
                    Porecki - 1

                    CHI v BRU
                    Tupaea - 3
                    Vaa’i - 2
                    Toole - 1

                    HUR v BLU
                    Riccitelli - 3
                    Godfrey - 2
                    Shields - 1

                    FOR v RED
                    McDermott - 3
                    Tizzano - 2
                    Grealy - 1

                    Leaderboard:
                    [6] Tupaea
                    [5] Tavatavanawai, Godfrey
                    [4] Karawalevu, Tizzano
                    [3] Preston, Reimer, McKenzie, Donaldson, McReight, N White, A Savea, Porecki, Gleeson, Vaa'i, Riccitelli, McDermott
                    [2] Fineanganofo, Ah Kuoi, J Williams, Parker, Taumoefolau, M Murray, Hurley, Hastie
                    [1] Reece, Amone, T Hooper, Jacobson, Havili Talitui, H Wilson, Kirifi, Fakatava, Cale, Sanerivi, Toole, Shields, Grealy

                    To me, this feels a better representation of what we have seen so far. Ardie Savea hasn't been the best player, and Mark Telea certainly hasn't been the fifth best.

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                    • frugbyF frugby

                      In protest at the preposterous scoring system for the Player of the Year Award, I have re-scored it using a neutral 3,2,1 system, based on my own feeling. I have seen just about every game, though followed the actually scoring for a handful of these.

                      Round One
                      CRU v HUR
                      Preston - 3
                      Fineanganofo - 2
                      Reece - 1

                      WAR v HIG
                      Tavatavanawai - 3
                      Porecki - 2
                      Amone - 1

                      DRU v BRU
                      Reimer - 3
                      Karawalevu - 2
                      Hooper - 1

                      BLU v CHI
                      McKenzie - 3
                      Ah Kuoi - 2
                      Jacobson - 1

                      FOR v MOA
                      Donaldson - 3
                      Williams - 2
                      Havili Talitui - 1

                      Round Two
                      CHI v CRU
                      Tupaea - 3
                      Parker - 2
                      Vaa’i - 1

                      RED v MOA
                      McReight - 3
                      Taumoefolau - 2
                      Wilson - 1

                      HUR v DRU
                      Godfrey - 3
                      M Murray - 2
                      Kirifi - 1

                      HIG v BLU
                      Hurley - 3
                      Tavatavanawai - 2
                      Fakatava - 1

                      BRU v FOR
                      White - 3
                      Tizzano - 2
                      Cale - 1

                      Round Three
                      MOA v HIG
                      Savea - 3
                      Hastie - 2
                      Sanerivi - 1

                      WAR v DRU
                      Gleeson - 3
                      Karawalevu - 2
                      Porecki - 1

                      CHI v BRU
                      Tupaea - 3
                      Vaa’i - 2
                      Toole - 1

                      HUR v BLU
                      Riccitelli - 3
                      Godfrey - 2
                      Shields - 1

                      FOR v RED
                      McDermott - 3
                      Tizzano - 2
                      Grealy - 1

                      Leaderboard:
                      [6] Tupaea
                      [5] Tavatavanawai, Godfrey
                      [4] Karawalevu, Tizzano
                      [3] Preston, Reimer, McKenzie, Donaldson, McReight, N White, A Savea, Porecki, Gleeson, Vaa'i, Riccitelli, McDermott
                      [2] Fineanganofo, Ah Kuoi, J Williams, Parker, Taumoefolau, M Murray, Hurley, Hastie
                      [1] Reece, Amone, T Hooper, Jacobson, Havili Talitui, H Wilson, Kirifi, Fakatava, Cale, Sanerivi, Toole, Shields, Grealy

                      To me, this feels a better representation of what we have seen so far. Ardie Savea hasn't been the best player, and Mark Telea certainly hasn't been the fifth best.

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                      @frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:

                      In protest at the preposterous scoring system for the Player of the Year Award, I have re-scored it using a neutral 3,2,1 system, based on my own feeling. I have seen just about every game, though followed the actually scoring for a handful of these.

                      Round One
                      CRU v HUR
                      Preston - 3
                      Fineanganofo - 2
                      Reece - 1

                      WAR v HIG
                      Tavatavanawai - 3
                      Porecki - 2
                      Amone - 1

                      DRU v BRU
                      Reimer - 3
                      Karawalevu - 2
                      Hooper - 1

                      BLU v CHI
                      McKenzie - 3
                      Ah Kuoi - 2
                      Jacobson - 1

                      FOR v MOA
                      Donaldson - 3
                      Williams - 2
                      Havili Talitui - 1

                      Round Two
                      CHI v CRU
                      Tupaea - 3
                      Parker - 2
                      Vaa’i - 1

                      RED v MOA
                      McReight - 3
                      Taumoefolau - 2
                      Wilson - 1

                      HUR v DRU
                      Godfrey - 3
                      M Murray - 2
                      Kirifi - 1

                      HIG v BLU
                      Hurley - 3
                      Tavatavanawai - 2
                      Fakatava - 1

                      BRU v FOR
                      White - 3
                      Tizzano - 2
                      Cale - 1

                      Round Three
                      MOA v HIG
                      Savea - 3
                      Hastie - 2
                      Sanerivi - 1

                      WAR v DRU
                      Gleeson - 3
                      Karawalevu - 2
                      Porecki - 1

                      CHI v BRU
                      Tupaea - 3
                      Vaa’i - 2
                      Toole - 1

                      HUR v BLU
                      Riccitelli - 3
                      Godfrey - 2
                      Shields - 1

                      FOR v RED
                      McDermott - 3
                      Tizzano - 2
                      Grealy - 1

                      Leaderboard:
                      [6] Tupaea
                      [5] Tavatavanawai, Godfrey
                      [4] Karawalevu, Tizzano
                      [3] Preston, Reimer, McKenzie, Donaldson, McReight, N White, A Savea, Porecki, Gleeson, Vaa'i, Riccitelli, McDermott
                      [2] Fineanganofo, Ah Kuoi, J Williams, Parker, Taumoefolau, M Murray, Hurley, Hastie
                      [1] Reece, Amone, T Hooper, Jacobson, Havili Talitui, H Wilson, Kirifi, Fakatava, Cale, Sanerivi, Toole, Shields, Grealy

                      To me, this feels a better representation of what we have seen so far. Ardie Savea hasn't been the best player, and Mark Telea certainly hasn't been the fifth best.

                      Nice job, this looks far more accurate.

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                        https://twitter.com/SuperRugby/status/1896810751794593829

                        That's how bad it's been for the Tahs.

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                          Moana vs Chiefs in round 6 has been moved from Tonga to Pukekohe.

                          https://moanapasifika.co.nz/moana-pasifikas-super-rugby-pacific-match-in-tonga-relocated-to-pukekohe/

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                            Good for Pukekohe and Counties, especially with it being the Chiefs. Who was it that moaned about the grass embankment the last time Pukekohe had an in season game? If there was the need they could install some terraced seating on the bank side.

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                              https://super.rugby/superrugby/news/super-rugby-pacific-injury-list-round-4/
                              Super Rugby Pacific Round Four Injury/Unavailability list
                              *TBC time/injury unless specified

                              Blues
                              Kurt Eklund (groin)
                              Laghlan McWhannell (leg)
                              PJ Sheck (shoulder)
                              Zarn Sullivan (foot)
                              Stephen Perofeta (calf)
                              Ben Ake (shoulder)
                              Hoskins Sotutu (suspended)
                              Dalton Papali’i (head injury)
                              James Mullan (head injury)
                              Sam Darry (shoulder, season)
                              Reon Paul (shoulder)
                              Taufa Funaki (shoulder)
                              Adrian Choat (knee)

                              Brumbies
                              Noah Lolesio (concussion/round five)
                              Rob Valetini (hamstring tear/TBC)
                              Tevita Alatini (knee/TBC)
                              Ben O’Donnell (hamstring/TBC)
                              Harry Vella (knee/TBC)
                              Tuaina Taii Tualima (dengue/TBC)

                              Chiefs
                              Damian McKenzie, Knee, Short term
                              Josh Lord, Knee, Mid-term (4-6 weeks)
                              Luke Jacobson, Facial injury, Short-term
                              Rameka Poihipi, Knee, Season
                              Kaleb Trask, Hamstring, Mid-term (4-6 weeks)
                              Etene Nanai-Seturo, Hamstring, Long-term
                              Liam Coombes-Fabling, Knee, Mid-term (4-6 weeks)
                              Fiti Sa, Shoulder, Long-term
                              Wallace Sititi, Knee, Long-term
                              Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Shoulder, Short-term

                              Crusaders
                              George Bell (toe/foot / season)
                              Kershawl Sykes-Martin (knee / 4 weeks)
                              Finlay Brewis (shoulder / season)
                              Rivez Reihana (ankle / 1-2 weeks)
                              Seb Calder (AC joint / 1-2 weeks)
                              Quentin Strange (Pec/hamstring / 1-2 weeks)
                              Dom Gardiner (hamstring / 3-5 weeks)
                              Jamie Hannah (shoulder / 4-6 weeks)
                              Aki Tuivailala (finger / 1-2 weeks)
                              Johnny McNicholll (hamstring / 3-5 weeks)
                              Noah Hotahm (ankle/ 5 weeks)

                              Fijian Drua
                              Epeli Momo (Knee)

                              Hurricanes
                              Zach Gallagher (Achilles / round 5)
                              Daniel Sinkinson (hamstring / round 😎
                              Lucas Cashmore (knee / round 5-7)
                              Brett Cameron (knee / season)
                              Asafo Aumua (foot / round 5-7)
                              Tyrel Lomax (ankle / round 5)
                              Kade Banks (concussion / round five)
                              Raymond Tuputupu (concussion / round five)
                              Devan Flanders (ankle / round 14)
                              Tjay Clarke (shoulder/ round 9)
                              Riley Higgins (hand / round 7)
                              Billy Proctor (Achilles / TBC)

                              Moana Pasifika
                              Fine Inisi (quad)
                              Julian Savea (knee)
                              Neria Fomai (knee/out for season)
                              Sione Havili Talitui (ankle)
                              Tito Tuipulotu (knee)

                              NSW Waratahs
                              Joseph-Aukuso Suaalii (toe)
                              Lalakai Foketi (groin)
                              Fergus Lee-Warner (foot)
                              Lucas Ripley (shoulder)

                              Queensland Reds
                              Jock Campbell
                              Josh Flook
                              Matt Gibbon
                              Mason Gordon
                              Isaac Henry
                              Will McCulloch
                              Lukhan Salakaia-Loto
                              Seru Uru
                              Hunter Paisami (suspension)

                              Western Force
                              Harry Johnson-Holmes (knee)
                              Bayley Kuenzle (knee)
                              Harry Hoopert (knee)
                              Divad Palu (shoulder)
                              Matt Proctor (shoulder)
                              Papillon Sevele (knee)

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                                NZ sides have the most injuries

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                                  NZ sides have the most injuries

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                                  @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                  NZ sides have the most injuries

                                  We play the toughest opponents more regularly

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                                    @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                    NZ sides have the most injuries

                                    We play the toughest opponents more regularly

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                                    @canefan It's only been 3 weeks and some NZ sides have already had a bye

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                                      @canefan It's only been 3 weeks and some NZ sides have already had a bye

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                                      @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                      @canefan It's only been 3 weeks and some NZ sides have already had a bye

                                      Yeah. But it's a game I feel we need to win to keep in touch until the cavalry arrive

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                                        I like how we don't even bother to acknowledge the existence of the Highlanders now.

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                                          I like how we don't even bother to acknowledge the existence of the Highlanders now.

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                                          @Bones flying under the radar

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