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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

    @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2025:

    @canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:

    @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:

    BIG REASON: PEOPLE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.

    Yet they can afford to go to Warriors and Auckland FC games......

    Both have large numbers of passionate fans. I don't think I'd use that word to describe most Blues fans... Or perhaps most NZ SR fans. Most of us are more happy to watch on TV than head to the ground

    Any Blues fan who supports after the horror run we had with coaching and administration gets to be called passionate. As I say to my wife, proof that I don't give up on a lost cause.

    In general, SR fans in NZ are not as passionate as fans from other teams such as the Wahs, and they know about losing. AFC is still young, the test will be if people still show up after several losing seasons

    I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

    The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south. When they get used to the drudgery of following a losing Warriors team like us old fans then that will be the test of the Warriors hype train v no one cares about SR (which the Sky viewing figures dispute).

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    @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2025:

    I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

    The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south.

    The difference is the Warriors missed the playoffs whereas the Blues were the best team in the comp

    Super teams need to do a much better job of engaging their fanbases

    The strong competitive start to Super Rugby this season is a good start

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2025:

      I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

      The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south.

      The difference is the Warriors missed the playoffs whereas the Blues were the best team in the comp

      Super teams need to do a much better job of engaging their fanbases

      The strong competitive start to Super Rugby this season is a good start

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      @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

      @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2025:

      I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

      The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south.

      The difference is the Warriors missed the playoffs whereas the Blues were the best team in the comp

      Super teams need to do a much better job of engaging their fanbases

      The strong competitive start to Super Rugby this season is a good start

      The Warriors do a lot in terms of fan engagement. They are big into social media in particular (or at least they used to be)

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2025:

        I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

        The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south.

        The difference is the Warriors missed the playoffs whereas the Blues were the best team in the comp

        Super teams need to do a much better job of engaging their fanbases

        The strong competitive start to Super Rugby this season is a good start

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        @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2025:

        @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2025:

        I know I'm late to this discussion, but didn't the Blues pretty much get the same crowd average in Auckland last year as the Warriors?

        The big crowds for the Warriors aren't due to the passionate fans, it's the bandwagoners who may or may not stay when things go south.

        The difference is the Warriors missed the playoffs whereas the Blues were the best team in the comp

        Super teams need to do a much better job of engaging their fanbases

        The strong competitive start to Super Rugby this season is a good start

        I agree with that, but there are still passionate fans that are going to the games.

        Also, we still don't know if 2024 was part of the 2023 success bump for the Warriors. If they have a crap year this year (and a look at their squad suggests they will) and the crowds hold then maybe we can say that. But the one dude I know who went regularly last year got cheap enough tickets that he was one of the people who didn't turn up to one of the sold out matches when something else came up.

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            The table after 4 weeks.

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              Round 5 home victories plus the Waratahs, instead of the Reds, there will be bit of a split in the table.

              Although, this weekend has shown you can't pick winners easily.

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                not a bad little comp really is it? Good, fun, open footy, and results are proving very unpredictable.

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                  #669

                  Someone answered my question on Twitter, about all 5 NZ teams losing on one weekend

                  "Has only happened once before ... Round 12 - 2000, all 5 NZ teams lost.

                  However, as the Highlanders aren't playing ... 4 NZ teams have lost in the same round on 11 occasions.

                  Last time was in Round 4 - 2013."

                  But only 3 teams lost, so not a huge upset in and of itself

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                  • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                    Round 5 home victories plus the Waratahs, instead of the Reds, there will be bit of a split in the table.

                    Although, this weekend has shown you can't pick winners easily.

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                    @SouthernMann I didn't realise until the other night the Tahs 1st month of the comp would all occur in Sydney. Reds on the other hand with an icky schedule yesterday Christchurch, this week Brisbane and the following week Dunedin

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                      Yeah, some common sense and thought should go into the draw. Cue a Tui ad.

                      The Brumbies played both games in NZ on the same tour. There is no reason that the Reds couldn't have done the same. The Chiefs were originally going to have to go Fiji, NZ and then Tonga in two weeks.

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                        @SouthernMann I didn't realise until the other night the Tahs 1st month of the comp would all occur in Sydney. Reds on the other hand with an icky schedule yesterday Christchurch, this week Brisbane and the following week Dunedin

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                        @Grooter said in Super Rugby 2025:

                        @SouthernMann I didn't realise until the other night the Tahs 1st month of the comp would all occur in Sydney. Reds on the other hand with an icky schedule yesterday Christchurch, this week Brisbane and the following week Dunedin

                        I'm guessing this is due to stadium availability with the NRL kicking off?

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                          Tahs having a bye in round 2 is going to catch up with them later in the competition

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                            Interest in this year's comp should surely be higher than it has been for years. The demise of the Rebels has made the Aussie teams look more competitive amongst themselves and against NZ teams so far.

                            Apart from the form of the Blues, the only one I'm surprised by on the weekend was the Reds. Genuinely thought they'd be better, even accounting for a good performance by the Crusaders.

                            I'd say tipping is difficult with such a comp, but I've never troubled the top of the table in that regard.

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                              Break out those Marvel jerseys this round.

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                                Break out those Marvel jerseys this round.

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                                @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                Break out those Marvel jerseys this round.

                                https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZnR4bTh5eDkzcTNsMG8zaGduaHBxY3pjcm8wODk2MjV1Yzl5YXczOCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/26ufoynwMogQZMPqo/giphy.gif

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                                  I'm enjoying Super Rugby a lot this year. The games are pacy, fun and the gap in standard between the sides is a lot closer than I can ever remember. There have been lots of games where the result goes down to the wire. There are also lots of fantastic young players coming through. Well done to everyone concerned with a great product in 2025.

                                  But we need to be wary of the difference to how international Rugby will be officiated once the Tests arrive.

                                  In Super Rugby, if Refs think it is a try they will give it. At international level, if there is any reasonable doubt at all they will send it to the TMOs to check.

                                  There are tries being given in Super Rugby that would be scrubbed off at International Level because of all the checks that take place after a potential score.

                                  Because of these breaks, the pace of international Rugby is slower. So there will be some superb Super Rugby players who won't be as well suited to the attritional grind of contemporary Test Rugby.

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                                    The Super Rugby table after Round 5.

                                    I think the Chiefs are best and the Crusaders probably second best, but not much between the other sides.

                                    image.png

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                                      My guess at the eventual Top 6 is:

                                      1. Chiefs
                                      2. Crusaders
                                      3. Brumbies
                                      4. Reds
                                      5. Hurricanes
                                      6. Highlanders
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                                        The Super Rugby table after Round 5.

                                        I think the Chiefs are best and the Crusaders probably second best, but not much between the other sides.

                                        image.png

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                                        @sparky said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                        I think the Chiefs are best and the Crusaders probably second best, but not much between the other sides.

                                        After seeing boo's stupid shit post, this made me think.

                                        Is sparky an AI bot?

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @sparky said in Super Rugby 2025:

                                          I think the Chiefs are best and the Crusaders probably second best, but not much between the other sides.

                                          After seeing boo's stupid shit post, this made me think.

                                          Is sparky an AI bot?

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                                          @Bones I'm tempted to feed all my posts into a AI app then to let it post on my behalf. The results would be interesting.

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