Super Rugby 2025
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@Landers92 said in Super Rugby 2025:
@chchfanatic said in Super Rugby 2025:
So Chiefs to win the round robin and choke to the Crusaders in final. . I’ve seen this before somewhere.
Pump the brakes, the crusaders wins have come against a severely under strength Canes side as well as Reds and Force teams minus their 10s and multiple wallabies… let’s see what they do when things really get going. I will say though, Crusaders look a lot better this year, just wouldn’t have them in the final just yet.
Hard for them to look any worse than they did last year in fairness.
@African-Monkey said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Landers92 said in Super Rugby 2025:
@chchfanatic said in Super Rugby 2025:
So Chiefs to win the round robin and choke to the Crusaders in final. . I’ve seen this before somewhere.
Pump the brakes, the crusaders wins have come against a severely under strength Canes side as well as Reds and Force teams minus their 10s and multiple wallabies… let’s see what they do when things really get going. I will say though, Crusaders look a lot better this year, just wouldn’t have them in the final just yet.
Hard for them to look any worse than they did last year in fairness.
Not sure what you’re talking about. Last year never happened.
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@African-Monkey said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Landers92 said in Super Rugby 2025:
@chchfanatic said in Super Rugby 2025:
So Chiefs to win the round robin and choke to the Crusaders in final. . I’ve seen this before somewhere.
Pump the brakes, the crusaders wins have come against a severely under strength Canes side as well as Reds and Force teams minus their 10s and multiple wallabies… let’s see what they do when things really get going. I will say though, Crusaders look a lot better this year, just wouldn’t have them in the final just yet.
Hard for them to look any worse than they did last year in fairness.
Not sure what you’re talking about. Last year never happened.
@ACT-Crusader said in Super Rugby 2025:
@African-Monkey said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Landers92 said in Super Rugby 2025:
@chchfanatic said in Super Rugby 2025:
So Chiefs to win the round robin and choke to the Crusaders in final. . I’ve seen this before somewhere.
Pump the brakes, the crusaders wins have come against a severely under strength Canes side as well as Reds and Force teams minus their 10s and multiple wallabies… let’s see what they do when things really get going. I will say though, Crusaders look a lot better this year, just wouldn’t have them in the final just yet.
Hard for them to look any worse than they did last year in fairness.
Not sure what you’re talking about. Last year never happened.
,Most of your Cantab mates seemed to share that same view on 2024 as well.
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super rugby has only taken place once in 2015 :man-shrugging: weird they never bothered to do it again
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https://super.rugby/superrugby/news/super-rugby-pacific-injury-list-round-6/
Blues
PJ Sheck (shoulder)
Zarn Sullivan (foot)
Ben Ake (shoulder)
Beauden Barrett (hand)
Adrian Choat (knee)
Taufa Funaki (shoulder)
Reon Paul (shoulder)
Ricky Riccitelli (chest)
Ofa Tu’ungafasi (neck)
Anton Segner (concussion)
Sam Darry (shoulder, season)
AJ Lam (leg)Brumbies
David Feliuai (concussion/round 7)
Tuaina Taii Tualima (dengue/TBC)
Charlie Cale (back/TBC - long-term)
Ben O’Donnell (hamstring/TBC - long-term)
Tevita Alatini (ACL/TBC - long-term)
Harry Vella (ACL/TBC - long-term)Chiefs
Simon Parker, Knee, Short-term
Anton Lienert-Brown, Leg, Short-term
Josh Lord, Knee, Mid-term
Rameka Poihipi, Knee, Season
Kaleb Trask, Hamstring, Mid-term
Etene Nanai-Seturo, Hamstring, Long-term
Liam Coombes-Fabling, Knee, Mid-term
Fiti Sa, Shoulder, Long-term
Wallace Sititi, Knee, Long-term
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Shoulder, Short-termCrusaders
Dom Gardiner (Hamstring/ 2 weeks)
Johnny McNicholl (Hamstring/ 2-4 weeks)
Ethan Blackadder (Quad/TBC)
Kershawl Sykes-Martin (Knee/ 3 weeks)
George Bell (Foot/season)
Braydon Ennor (Hamstring/TBC)
Finlay Brewis (Shoulder/season)Fijian Drua
Selestino Ravutaumada (HIA)
Epeli Momo (Knee)Highlanders
Oliver Haig (Foot / 3 weeks )
Jonah Lowe (ACL / 1-2 weeks )
Cameron Millar (Concussion / 1-2 weeks)
Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (Neck / 3-4 weeks)
Folau Fakatava (Hamstring / 1-2 weeks)
Hugh Renton (Groin / 1-2 weeks)Moana Pasifika
Ardie Savea (hamstring)
James Lay (elbow)
Julian Savea (knee)
Lotu Inisi (hamstring)
Sione Havili Talitui (ankle)
Neria Fomai (knee/season)
Danny Toala (knee)
Solomon Alaimalo (shoulder)NSW Waratahs
Jake Gordon (medial ligament)
Joseph-Aukuso Suaalii (toe)
Lalakai Foketi (groin)
Fergus Lee-Warner (foot)
Lucas Ripley (shoulder)Queensland Reds
Jock Campbell
Matt Faessler
Josh Flook
Matt Gibbon
Frankie Goldsbrough
Mason Gordon
Isaac Henry
Will McCulloch
Fraser McReight
Josh Nasser
Liam WrightWestern Force
Harry Johnson-Holmes (knee)
Bayley Kuenzle (knee)
Harry Hoopert (knee)
Divad Palu (shoulder)
Matt Proctor (shoulder)
Papillon Sevele (knee) -
https://super.rugby/superrugby/news/super-rugby-pacific-injury-list-round-6/
Blues
PJ Sheck (shoulder)
Zarn Sullivan (foot)
Ben Ake (shoulder)
Beauden Barrett (hand)
Adrian Choat (knee)
Taufa Funaki (shoulder)
Reon Paul (shoulder)
Ricky Riccitelli (chest)
Ofa Tu’ungafasi (neck)
Anton Segner (concussion)
Sam Darry (shoulder, season)
AJ Lam (leg)Brumbies
David Feliuai (concussion/round 7)
Tuaina Taii Tualima (dengue/TBC)
Charlie Cale (back/TBC - long-term)
Ben O’Donnell (hamstring/TBC - long-term)
Tevita Alatini (ACL/TBC - long-term)
Harry Vella (ACL/TBC - long-term)Chiefs
Simon Parker, Knee, Short-term
Anton Lienert-Brown, Leg, Short-term
Josh Lord, Knee, Mid-term
Rameka Poihipi, Knee, Season
Kaleb Trask, Hamstring, Mid-term
Etene Nanai-Seturo, Hamstring, Long-term
Liam Coombes-Fabling, Knee, Mid-term
Fiti Sa, Shoulder, Long-term
Wallace Sititi, Knee, Long-term
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Shoulder, Short-termCrusaders
Dom Gardiner (Hamstring/ 2 weeks)
Johnny McNicholl (Hamstring/ 2-4 weeks)
Ethan Blackadder (Quad/TBC)
Kershawl Sykes-Martin (Knee/ 3 weeks)
George Bell (Foot/season)
Braydon Ennor (Hamstring/TBC)
Finlay Brewis (Shoulder/season)Fijian Drua
Selestino Ravutaumada (HIA)
Epeli Momo (Knee)Highlanders
Oliver Haig (Foot / 3 weeks )
Jonah Lowe (ACL / 1-2 weeks )
Cameron Millar (Concussion / 1-2 weeks)
Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (Neck / 3-4 weeks)
Folau Fakatava (Hamstring / 1-2 weeks)
Hugh Renton (Groin / 1-2 weeks)Moana Pasifika
Ardie Savea (hamstring)
James Lay (elbow)
Julian Savea (knee)
Lotu Inisi (hamstring)
Sione Havili Talitui (ankle)
Neria Fomai (knee/season)
Danny Toala (knee)
Solomon Alaimalo (shoulder)NSW Waratahs
Jake Gordon (medial ligament)
Joseph-Aukuso Suaalii (toe)
Lalakai Foketi (groin)
Fergus Lee-Warner (foot)
Lucas Ripley (shoulder)Queensland Reds
Jock Campbell
Matt Faessler
Josh Flook
Matt Gibbon
Frankie Goldsbrough
Mason Gordon
Isaac Henry
Will McCulloch
Fraser McReight
Josh Nasser
Liam WrightWestern Force
Harry Johnson-Holmes (knee)
Bayley Kuenzle (knee)
Harry Hoopert (knee)
Divad Palu (shoulder)
Matt Proctor (shoulder)
Papillon Sevele (knee)@Daffy-Jaffy said in Super Rugby 2025:
https://super.rugby/superrugby/news/super-rugby-pacific-injury-list-round-6/
Blues
PJ Sheck (shoulder)
Zarn Sullivan (foot)
Ben Ake (shoulder)
Beauden Barrett (hand)
Adrian Choat (knee)
Taufa Funaki (shoulder)
Reon Paul (shoulder)
Ricky Riccitelli (chest)
Ofa Tu’ungafasi (neck)
Anton Segner (concussion)
Sam Darry (shoulder, season)
AJ Lam (leg)Not enough hard shoulders……
I’ll be here all week
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This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
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This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Unprecedented? Is the author not old enough to remember Frank Bunce turning out for Manu Samoa in the RWC before changing his blue jersey to black?
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This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Canes are probably the one that need wingers the most tbh. Our only half decent wing is Naholo.
It seems stupid though that Ardie can play for them and be an AB but he has to move. Maybe we start picking guys out of Moana as well?
He's the form Super winger alongside Tangitau this year.
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@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Unprecedented? Is the author not old enough to remember Frank Bunce turning out for Manu Samoa in the RWC before changing his blue jersey to black?
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@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Unprecedented? Is the author not old enough to remember Frank Bunce turning out for Manu Samoa in the RWC before changing his blue jersey to black?
@canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Unprecedented? Is the author not old enough to remember Frank Bunce turning out for Manu Samoa in the RWC before changing his blue jersey to black?
you know the answer to this. Modern rugby media is young wiht little to no analysis and plenty of clickbait
REVEALED: @canefan drops stinging burn on MSM
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@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Unprecedented? Is the author not old enough to remember Frank Bunce turning out for Manu Samoa in the RWC before changing his blue jersey to black?
@canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Unprecedented? Is the author not old enough to remember Frank Bunce turning out for Manu Samoa in the RWC before changing his blue jersey to black?
Alama Ieremia even more recently than that. Played for Samoa in 1993, the All Blacks the year after
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@canefan said in Super Rugby 2025:
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Unprecedented? Is the author not old enough to remember Frank Bunce turning out for Manu Samoa in the RWC before changing his blue jersey to black?
Alama Ieremia even more recently than that. Played for Samoa in 1993, the All Blacks the year after
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But the line was: "Taumoefolau eyes unprecedented switch from Tonga to the All Blacks"
I still think its probably wrong because Alatini made that move
@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2025:
But the line was: "Taumoefolau eyes unprecedented switch from Tonga to the All Blacks"
I still think its probably wrong because Alatini made that move
Fair enough. All I saw was Frank Bunce.
Alatini played for Tonga in 1995, was it a test match ? to make matters more niggly it appears three of his brothers have played for Tonga too !
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@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2025:
But the line was: "Taumoefolau eyes unprecedented switch from Tonga to the All Blacks"
I still think its probably wrong because Alatini made that move
Fair enough. All I saw was Frank Bunce.
Alatini played for Tonga in 1995, was it a test match ? to make matters more niggly it appears three of his brothers have played for Tonga too !
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@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Canes are probably the one that need wingers the most tbh. Our only half decent wing is Naholo.
It seems stupid though that Ardie can play for them and be an AB but he has to move. Maybe we start picking guys out of Moana as well?
He's the form Super winger alongside Tangitau this year.
@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Canes are probably the one that need wingers the most tbh. Our only half decent wing is Naholo.
It seems stupid though that Ardie can play for them and be an AB but he has to move. Maybe we start picking guys out of Moana as well?
He's the form Super winger alongside Tangitau this year.
There are agreements on the number of ABs that can play for MP (3?) or maybe more correctly players unavailable for Tonga or Samoa. And it is a good look for Ardie to go and help MP whiclst still being an AB. It's a bad look for NZR to 'steal' (yes they're mostly kiwis and based in NZ and paid for by NZ but optics) a MP player. So the players have the sense to sign somewhere else to pursue their ABs dream.
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@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Canes are probably the one that need wingers the most tbh. Our only half decent wing is Naholo.
It seems stupid though that Ardie can play for them and be an AB but he has to move. Maybe we start picking guys out of Moana as well?
He's the form Super winger alongside Tangitau this year.
There are agreements on the number of ABs that can play for MP (3?) or maybe more correctly players unavailable for Tonga or Samoa. And it is a good look for Ardie to go and help MP whiclst still being an AB. It's a bad look for NZR to 'steal' (yes they're mostly kiwis and based in NZ and paid for by NZ but optics) a MP player. So the players have the sense to sign somewhere else to pursue their ABs dream.
@Machpants said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Canes are probably the one that need wingers the most tbh. Our only half decent wing is Naholo.
It seems stupid though that Ardie can play for them and be an AB but he has to move. Maybe we start picking guys out of Moana as well?
He's the form Super winger alongside Tangitau this year.
There are agreements on the number of ABs that can play for MP (3?) or maybe more correctly players unavailable for Tonga or Samoa. And it is a good look for Ardie to go and help MP whiclst still being an AB. It's a bad look for NZR to 'steal' (yes they're mostly kiwis and based in NZ and paid for by NZ but optics) a MP player. So the players have the sense to sign somewhere else to pursue their ABs dream.
That makes sense, it's just a pain for them that they have to shift, especially if they are thriving at Moana, which is great for the comp.
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@Machpants said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Canes are probably the one that need wingers the most tbh. Our only half decent wing is Naholo.
It seems stupid though that Ardie can play for them and be an AB but he has to move. Maybe we start picking guys out of Moana as well?
He's the form Super winger alongside Tangitau this year.
There are agreements on the number of ABs that can play for MP (3?) or maybe more correctly players unavailable for Tonga or Samoa. And it is a good look for Ardie to go and help MP whiclst still being an AB. It's a bad look for NZR to 'steal' (yes they're mostly kiwis and based in NZ and paid for by NZ but optics) a MP player. So the players have the sense to sign somewhere else to pursue their ABs dream.
That makes sense, it's just a pain for them that they have to shift, especially if they are thriving at Moana, which is great for the comp.
@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Machpants said in Super Rugby 2025:
@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2025:
@frugby said in Super Rugby 2025:
This prompts an interesting question for next year... if he really does want to be an AB, he probably switches to a different side - what's his landing spot? Canes? Crusaders? Chiefs?
Canes are probably the one that need wingers the most tbh. Our only half decent wing is Naholo.
It seems stupid though that Ardie can play for them and be an AB but he has to move. Maybe we start picking guys out of Moana as well?
He's the form Super winger alongside Tangitau this year.
There are agreements on the number of ABs that can play for MP (3?) or maybe more correctly players unavailable for Tonga or Samoa. And it is a good look for Ardie to go and help MP whiclst still being an AB. It's a bad look for NZR to 'steal' (yes they're mostly kiwis and based in NZ and paid for by NZ but optics) a MP player. So the players have the sense to sign somewhere else to pursue their ABs dream.
That makes sense, it's just a pain for them that they have to shift, especially if they are thriving at Moana, which is great for the comp.
cf Aumua
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The Aust teams have to rest current and potential Wallabies. Some were "managed" last week, others this week.
A select group of managed players who can not play more than six games in a row, barring extreme circumstances, with the Wallabies' upcoming Test season in mind.
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Tonga to the ABs could be accurate though?
Alatini played for Tonga first but I'm not sure if he was capped
@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2025:
Tonga to the ABs could be accurate though?
Alatini played for Tonga first but I'm not sure if he was capped
I think it was Pita's brother (?) Sam who played v Samoa in 1995, so Pita was not capped by Tonga. (He may have been a junior U19 rep, and/or a Tongan rep at a minor sevens tournament though).
But Emosi Koloto played a test for Tonga in 1986, and was grabbed by New Zealand 7's the year after - and then went on to represent New Zealand at Rugby League.
So, there is a precedent for a capped Tongan switching to New Zealand.
