All Blacks EOYT
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So we are forced to fall back on AB selection arguments ad nauseam because there's fuck all else to talk about.
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@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
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@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
Yeah well the forum could come to an end if that's the case.
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks EOYT:
Geez are we still talking about Sotutu. So he’s going to go and play for England even though he’s contracted to NZ for next couple of years.
The guy is a fluffy bunny who was told to go and work on his fitness. “This is the level we want our loose forwards at “ he didn’t even get close.
Caleb Clarke was told he needed to shed weight and he did exactly what he was asked. Now he’s arguably the number one winger.
Don’t put it back on the coaches when you wont do the hard work. Mentally weak individual.Maybe if you don't want us to talk about player X you shouldn't then go on and insult player X and insinuate you know way more than the official line without any obvious and clear evidence..
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks EOYT:
Geez are we still talking about Sotutu. So he’s going to go and play for England even though he’s contracted to NZ for next couple of years.
The guy is a fluffy bunny who was told to go and work on his fitness. “This is the level we want our loose forwards at “ he didn’t even get close.
Caleb Clarke was told he needed to shed weight and he did exactly what he was asked. Now he’s arguably the number one winger.
Don’t put it back on the coaches when you wont do the hard work. Mentally weak individual.Maybe if you don't want us to talk about player X you shouldn't then go on and insult player X and insinuate you know way more than the official line without any obvious and clear evidence..
The new breed of Cantabs have been circling their wagons like the days of old when I first joined this place. Who knew it would take the Messiah not quite being able to walk on water like we were promised to get the Village of the Damned back to full fighting force.
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This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
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@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum.
The Sotutu debate is childs play compared with the Hammetuer thread.
@Nepia said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum.
The Sotutu debate is childs play compared with the Hammetuer thread.
The Ice debate has entered the chat
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@Nepia said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum.
The Sotutu debate is childs play compared with the Hammetuer thread.
The Ice debate has entered the chat
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Nepia said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum.
The Sotutu debate is childs play compared with the Hammetuer thread.
The Ice debate has entered the chat
I always thought of that one as two posters going at it and the rest of us eating popcorn and chipping in on occasion?
But, my memory isn't what it used to be. I can't remember the Pies starting 15 from round 1 of the 1994 NPC anymore.
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@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Nepia said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum.
The Sotutu debate is childs play compared with the Hammetuer thread.
The Ice debate has entered the chat
I always thought of that one as two posters going at it and the rest of us eating popcorn and chipping in on occasion?
But, my memory isn't what it used to be. I can't remember the Pies starting 15 from round 1 of the 1994 NPC anymore.
@Nepia said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Nepia said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum.
The Sotutu debate is childs play compared with the Hammetuer thread.
The Ice debate has entered the chat
I always thought of that one as two posters going at it and the rest of us eating popcorn and chipping in on occasion?
But, my memory isn't what it used to be. I can't remember the Pies starting 15 from round 1 of the 1994 NPC anymore.
My memory is probably as bad as yours. The biggest shit fight I can remember was actually the Middle East thread years ago. Good that they got that geopolitical situation sorted out alright, oh wait...
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
If I start to agree with you deluded fluffybunnies I'm booking therapy
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@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
If I start to agree with you deluded fluffybunnies I'm booking therapy
@mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
If I start to agree with you deluded fluffybunnies I'm booking therapy
Shit, I thought this WAS therapy!
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks EOYT:
Geez are we still talking about Sotutu. So he’s going to go and play for England even though he’s contracted to NZ for next couple of years.
The guy is a fluffy bunny who was told to go and work on his fitness. “This is the level we want our loose forwards at “ he didn’t even get close.
Caleb Clarke was told he needed to shed weight and he did exactly what he was asked. Now he’s arguably the number one winger.
Don’t put it back on the coaches when you wont do the hard work. Mentally weak individual.Maybe if you don't want us to talk about player X you shouldn't then go on and insult player X and insinuate you know way more than the official line without any obvious and clear evidence..
The new breed of Cantabs have been circling their wagons like the days of old when I first joined this place. Who knew it would take the Messiah not quite being able to walk on water like we were promised to get the Village of the Damned back to full fighting force.
@Nepia said in All Blacks EOYT:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks EOYT:
Geez are we still talking about Sotutu. So he’s going to go and play for England even though he’s contracted to NZ for next couple of years.
The guy is a fluffy bunny who was told to go and work on his fitness. “This is the level we want our loose forwards at “ he didn’t even get close.
Caleb Clarke was told he needed to shed weight and he did exactly what he was asked. Now he’s arguably the number one winger.
Don’t put it back on the coaches when you wont do the hard work. Mentally weak individual.Maybe if you don't want us to talk about player X you shouldn't then go on and insult player X and insinuate you know way more than the official line without any obvious and clear evidence..
The new breed of Cantabs have been circling their wagons like the days of old when I first joined this place. Who knew it would take the Messiah not quite being able to walk on water like we were promised to get the Village of the Damned back to full fighting force.
If I could paraphrase the great Chris Berman
No one... circles the wagons... like the
buffalo billscantab fans on the Fern -
@mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
If I start to agree with you deluded fluffybunnies I'm booking therapy
Shit, I thought this WAS therapy!
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
If I start to agree with you deluded fluffybunnies I'm booking therapy
Shit, I thought this WAS therapy!
2 for 1
Therapy and a distraction from work
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@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
If I start to agree with you deluded fluffybunnies I'm booking therapy
@mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:
@canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:
@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
This Sotutu debate might legit ruin this forum. The All Blacks haven't played in nearly a month, and yet somehow we're still arguing about it.
I haven't seen anyone engage in the debate of how Lakai might get on (who is actually in the bleeding squad).
Mate, you've been here five minutes and the sky is falling. This is just a normal day on TSF
Haha yeah talk about dramatic.
I don't think most of us come here to spend all day agreeing with each other
If I start to agree with you deluded fluffybunnies I'm booking therapy
Second that.
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Just to defend Niggles a tad, at least he gets regularly injured on both sides of the ball.
The next major question is the safeguarding of the nearly 30 year old David Havili, is he really top AB material or the ultimate bench/impact utility?
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@sparky said in All Blacks EOYT:
The fishing season is bringing out a host of massive trawlers this year, that's for sure.
Not trolling if they mean it!
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Geez are we still talking about Sotutu. So he’s going to go and play for England even though he’s contracted to NZ for next couple of years.
The guy is a fluffy bunny who was told to go and work on his fitness. “This is the level we want our loose forwards at “ he didn’t even get close.
Caleb Clarke was told he needed to shed weight and he did exactly what he was asked. Now he’s arguably the number one winger.
Don’t put it back on the coaches when you wont do the hard work. Mentally weak individual.@chchfanatic said in All Blacks EOYT:
Geez are we still talking about Sotutu. So he’s going to go and play for England even though he’s contracted to NZ for next couple of years.
The guy is a fluffy bunny who was told to go and work on his fitness. “This is the level we want our loose forwards at “ he didn’t even get close.
Caleb Clarke was told he needed to shed weight and he did exactly what he was asked. Now he’s arguably the number one winger.
Don’t put it back on the coaches when you wont do the hard work. Mentally weak individual.I mean that just probably reinforces what we know about Razor, that he is favouring lighter more mobile loosies over the bigger more physical players. He's trying to play an up tempo game plan to run other teams off their feet, a game plan that hasn't worked for about a decade or so I'd say. So far all we've managed to do is exhaust ourselves and finish each game getting dominated in the final quarter.
This EOYT tour will be really interesting. If Razor can't get this game plan to work then he's going to be under huge pressure. He hasn't had a lot of scrutiny from the media so far given how bad we've been this year but I think they will turn sharply if we get embarrassed up North.
Personally I think the game plan is destined to fail in the current game, for example for SA 6 out of their 8 forwards have only been on the field for 15 minutes at the 70 minute mark so are not sucking in the big ones like the old days.
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks EOYT:
Geez are we still talking about Sotutu. So he’s going to go and play for England even though he’s contracted to NZ for next couple of years.
The guy is a fluffy bunny who was told to go and work on his fitness. “This is the level we want our loose forwards at “ he didn’t even get close.
Caleb Clarke was told he needed to shed weight and he did exactly what he was asked. Now he’s arguably the number one winger.
Don’t put it back on the coaches when you wont do the hard work. Mentally weak individual.I mean that just probably reinforces what we know about Razor, that he is favouring lighter more mobile loosies over the bigger more physical players. He's trying to play an up tempo game plan to run other teams off their feet, a game plan that hasn't worked for about a decade or so I'd say. So far all we've managed to do is exhaust ourselves and finish each game getting dominated in the final quarter.
This EOYT tour will be really interesting. If Razor can't get this game plan to work then he's going to be under huge pressure. He hasn't had a lot of scrutiny from the media so far given how bad we've been this year but I think they will turn sharply if we get embarrassed up North.
Personally I think the game plan is destined to fail in the current game, for example for SA 6 out of their 8 forwards have only been on the field for 15 minutes at the 70 minute mark so are not sucking in the big ones like the old days.
@No-Quarter
Fair points.
It still doesn't excuse Sotutu not getting fitter when he had been asked to.
"he didn’t even get close"
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@No-Quarter
Fair points.
It still doesn't excuse Sotutu not getting fitter when he had been asked to.
"he didn’t even get close"
(chchfanatic's sources have been spot on)@Frank said in All Blacks EOYT:
@No-Quarter
Fair points.
It still doesn't excuse Sotutu not getting fitter when he had been asked to.
"he didn’t even get close"
(chchfanatic's sources have been spot on)I’d be fascinated to find out what Cotter would say about his fitness.
And if the Blues wanted more weight on their forwards given their game plan (which worked).
