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All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

    @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

    But I guess the bench Vs England will be something like this:

    Aumua, Williams, Tosi, Tuipolutu, Finau, Roigard, DMac, ALB.

    I think your team and bench will be pretty close.

    I'm inclined to think they might have pulled Reece early vs Japan because they plan to play him vs England.

    Pretty certain the starting loose forwards will be Sititi, Cane and Savea - in fact, I'll be amazed if they're not. Other question marks....

    Finau or Lakai?
    Tosi or Newell?
    Roigard or Perenara?

    Lakai, though i would really worry about our physicality in the tackle when Cane gets subbed
    Tosi, Newell doesn't offer much
    God i hope it's Roigard even if he wasn't exactly amazing on Saturday.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

    God i hope it's Roigard even if he wasn't exactly amazing on Saturday.

    So do I. Ratima to start with Roigard on the bench to give him game time. Keep TJP as injury cover.

    I also have a sneaking suspicion Ratima will be the 1st choice 9 by next year with Roigard pushing him all he way. Nice position to be in.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      @MiketheSnow Will Greenwood is good. Gavin Muirs at the Daily Telegraph is okay. But yeah, beyond that you're going to learn much more these days from specialist Rugby content providers

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      @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

      @MiketheSnow Will Greenwood is good. Gavin Muirs at the Daily Telegraph is okay. But yeah, beyond that you're going to learn much more these days from specialist Rugby content providers

      Keo and Zels on SA Rugby Mag are the best.

      They know all the players, even youth players coming through. They take an interest in the opposition.

      I never get bored listening to them.

      And they actually have some "takes", as opposed to the fence sitting we get served up in NZ.

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      • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

        @MiketheSnow which forums do you get insight from …. 🙂

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        @MajorRage said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

        @MiketheSnow which forums do you get insight from …. 🙂

        The Polish ones

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        • canefanC canefan

          @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

          I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

          It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

          It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

          For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

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          @canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

          I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

          It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

          It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

          For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

          Yeah, he is really good to listen. I agreed with him but the I wondered if they don’t want to play a more direct style to give England a game to analyse so close to playing them

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            @canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

            @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

            @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

            I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

            I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

            It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

            It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

            For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

            Yeah, he is really good to listen. I agreed with him but the I wondered if they don’t want to play a more direct style to give England a game to analyse so close to playing them

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            @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

            @canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

            @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

            @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

            I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

            I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

            It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

            It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

            For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

            Yeah, he is really good to listen. I agreed with him but the I wondered if they don’t want to play a more direct style or gameplan close to what we are trying to play against England, so we don’t give England a game to analyse

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              Tubby Barnes firing some early shots. I don't see the ABs beating the rush defence with BB at 1st 5.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360467785/former-england-star-turned-scribe-takes-pot-shot-beauden-barrett-ahead-all-blacks

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              @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

              Tubby Barnes firing some early shots. I don't see the ABs beating the rush defence with BB at 1st 5.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360467785/former-england-star-turned-scribe-takes-pot-shot-beauden-barrett-ahead-all-blacks

              Agree with pretty much all of what he said to be honest.

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                England have named their team:

                https://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status/1851277893256503653

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                  Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

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                    @canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                    @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                    I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

                    I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

                    It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

                    It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

                    For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

                    Yeah, he is really good to listen. I agreed with him but the I wondered if they don’t want to play a more direct style to give England a game to analyse so close to playing them

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                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                    @canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                    @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                    I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

                    I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

                    It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

                    It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

                    For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

                    Yeah, he is really good to listen. I agreed with him but the I wondered if they don’t want to play a more direct style to give England a game to analyse so close to playing them

                    Keeping the powder dry?

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      England have named their team:

                      https://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status/1851277893256503653

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                      @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                      England have named their team:

                      I think they need a few more VCs.

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                        A 6-2 split on the England bench in case you were wondering.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

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                          @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                          Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

                          were you offering that 40% off code again

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                          • nzzpN nzzp

                            @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                            Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

                            were you offering that 40% off code again

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                            @nzzp said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                            Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

                            were you offering that 40% off code again

                            Only in the final quarter.

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                            • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                              @sparky who believes they are that good?

                              They aren't as shit as being made out on here, but they aren't amazing either.

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                              @MajorRage said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                              @sparky who believes they are that good?

                              They aren't as shit as being made out on here, but they aren't amazing either.

                              we are strong favourites against England. So there's that - now we have to execute

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                                Ruben Love won't be featuring for the ABs:

                                https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1851341790550589677

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                                  good, better to keep him playing.

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                                    Think most of the starting side picks itself. Big question is who takes the last back position I reckon.
                                    EDG/Taylor/Lomax
                                    Barrett/Vaa'i
                                    Sititi/Savea/Cane
                                    Ratima/?
                                    J Barrett/Ioane
                                    Clarke/?/?

                                    B Barrett and Jordan will take two of those spots, where they play depends on who fills the other spot. Suspect it will be Reece on the right wing, but could easily be Perofeta at 15 or DMac at 10.

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                                      I think
                                      10 DMac
                                      14 Jordan
                                      15 BB

                                      is the strongest we can put out. Moving BB to 10 weakens 10 and 14 (and is short term). Jordan has his failings, but Reece is really struggling in Tests this year

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                                        I'd stick with Jordan at 15, he's the future and offers so much more in attack.
                                        McKenzie over Barrett at 10 every day of the week.
                                        And I guess Reece, reluctantly - unless Beauden wants a run there? Better in the air than Reece at least...

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          Ruben Love won't be featuring for the ABs:

                                          https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1851341790550589677

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                                          @sparky He's clearly better than Perofeta

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