All Blacks 2025
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
Bachop
How many more tests did he play?
And I do recall some pre-internet pre-Radio Sport (it was 1994) angst from the Flat Earth society.
@booboo said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
Bachop
How many more tests did he play?
And I do recall some pre-internet pre-Radio Sport (it was 1994) angst from the Flat Earth society.
That was his first for the ABs and then he played four more after that.
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I think the first few rounds of Super Rugby have proven that Damian McKenzie and Beauden Barrett are indeed comfortably the two best 10s in the country, and their best position may well be fullback.
There is nothing below them that will be ready by 2027, so for that reason alone, the Mo'unga conversation will and should continue. Whether he starts is another question, but if DMac was to do his ACL (which he has before, and keep in mind he himself will be 32), you're looking at washed up, 36 year-old Beauden Barrett starting at 10 at the World Cup.
Godfrey has been nice, but has some rounding out to do, and is at best a prospect for the 2026 EOYT IMO. The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
Bit rough on Perofeta who has only had less than a half from the bench - and looked lively
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
Bit rough on Perofeta who has only had less than a half from the bench - and looked lively
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
Bit rough on Perofeta who has only had less than a half from the bench - and looked lively
If he had opportunity to leave in the offseason and didn't take it (I really don't know, you would hope that the NZRFU could make that happen in order to get another player with AB potential in play during SR), then it's his own fault. Madness that he is at the Blues where he barely gets a run
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
Bit rough on Perofeta who has only had less than a half from the bench - and looked lively
If he had opportunity to leave in the offseason and didn't take it (I really don't know, you would hope that the NZRFU could make that happen in order to get another player with AB potential in play during SR), then it's his own fault. Madness that he is at the Blues where he barely gets a run
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
Bit rough on Perofeta who has only had less than a half from the bench - and looked lively
If he had opportunity to leave in the offseason and didn't take it (I really don't know, you would hope that the NZRFU could make that happen in order to get another player with AB potential in play during SR), then it's his own fault. Madness that he is at the Blues where he barely gets a run
He's just come back from injury.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
Bit rough on Perofeta who has only had less than a half from the bench - and looked lively
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
Bit rough on Perofeta who has only had less than a half from the bench - and looked lively
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
Having watched some of the U20 tournament, I wasn’t really that excited by what was coming through, though didn’t catch Harry Inch.
We’re basically just waiting for someone to improve out of nowhere… so I guess that means it could be anyone!
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The rest of the young 10s have been a massive let down.
Bit rough on Perofeta who has only had less than a half from the bench - and looked lively
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
Having watched some of the U20 tournament, I wasn’t really that excited by what was coming through, though didn’t catch Harry Inch.
We’re basically just waiting for someone to improve out of nowhere… so I guess that means it could be anyone!
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
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@frugby Of the young 10s I think Godfrey and Robinson are the stand outs currently. But as you said they're got some stuff to work on still before they're ready for the All Blacks.
I've been massively underwhelmed with Kemara and particularly his goal kicking.
Jacomb hasn't been in his best form this year.
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@frugby Of the young 10s I think Godfrey and Robinson are the stand outs currently. But as you said they're got some stuff to work on still before they're ready for the All Blacks.
I've been massively underwhelmed with Kemara and particularly his goal kicking.
Jacomb hasn't been in his best form this year.
@MacDazzler said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby Of the young 10s I think Godfrey and Robinson are the stand outs currently. But as you said they're got some stuff to work on still before they're ready for the All Blacks.
I've been massively underwhelmed with Kemara and particularly his goal kicking.
Jacomb hasn't been in his best form this year.
Goal kicking aside I am not as down on Kemara as you seem to be. He is performing a role (as opposed to running the backline) and is a running threat. He's doing better than I expected.
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@MacDazzler said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby Of the young 10s I think Godfrey and Robinson are the stand outs currently. But as you said they're got some stuff to work on still before they're ready for the All Blacks.
I've been massively underwhelmed with Kemara and particularly his goal kicking.
Jacomb hasn't been in his best form this year.
Goal kicking aside I am not as down on Kemara as you seem to be. He is performing a role (as opposed to running the backline) and is a running threat. He's doing better than I expected.
@Crazy-Horse I will admit he's improved from last year but I'm still not convinced on him yet.
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@MacDazzler said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby Of the young 10s I think Godfrey and Robinson are the stand outs currently. But as you said they're got some stuff to work on still before they're ready for the All Blacks.
I've been massively underwhelmed with Kemara and particularly his goal kicking.
Jacomb hasn't been in his best form this year.
Goal kicking aside I am not as down on Kemara as you seem to be. He is performing a role (as opposed to running the backline) and is a running threat. He's doing better than I expected.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
Goal kicking aside I am not as down on Kemara as you seem to be. He is performing a role (as opposed to running the backline) and is a running threat. He's doing better than I expected.
He's doing ok which is a big improvement. He looked like a dud until this year.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
Goal kicking aside I am not as down on Kemara as you seem to be. He is performing a role (as opposed to running the backline) and is a running threat. He's doing better than I expected.
He's doing ok which is a big improvement. He looked like a dud until this year.
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
Goal kicking aside I am not as down on Kemara as you seem to be. He is performing a role (as opposed to running the backline) and is a running threat. He's doing better than I expected.
He's doing ok which is a big improvement. He looked like a dud until this year.
He's doing better because Crusaders have taken a whole heap off his plate.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Is it a broken 36 year old, perchance?
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Is it a broken 36 year old, perchance?
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Is it a broken 36 year old, perchance?
Beauden Barrett is only 33
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Is it a broken 36 year old, perchance?
Beauden Barrett is only 33
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Is it a broken 36 year old, perchance?
Beauden Barrett is only 33
How old will he be at the next RWC...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Perofeta is a great example of where selection has gone wrong in recent year. Pick a bloke, give him 5 minutes at the fag-end of a Test and judge him on that.
