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All Blacks 2025

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  • boobooB Offline
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    #1480

    Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

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    • boobooB booboo

      Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

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      Bones
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      #1481

      @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

      Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

      Didn't he hit a purple patch about this point last season? I thought he was better last year, but might not be as noticeable when you're getting beat.

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      • M Machpants

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

        Fabian Holland looking every inch an All Black in waiting.

        Only this match, not been that amazing up until now. More games the same required, one offs don't cut it, imo

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        #1482

        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

        Fabian Holland looking every inch an All Black in waiting.

        Only this match, not been that amazing up until now. More games the same required, one offs don't cut it, imo

        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

        Fabian Holland looking every inch an All Black in waiting.

        Only this match, not been that amazing up until now. More games the same required, one offs don't cut it, imo

        I think he's looked pretty good all season, except maybe quiet last week.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

          Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

          Didn't he hit a purple patch about this point last season? I thought he was better last year, but might not be as noticeable when you're getting beat.

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          booboo
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          #1483

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

          @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

          Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

          Didn't he hit a purple patch about this point last season? I thought he was better last year, but might not be as noticeable when you're getting beat.

          Couldn't tell you. Didn't notice him.

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          • boobooB booboo

            Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

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            #1484

            @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

            Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

            Setting the bar low for him then. He's 24, if he was going to make it I'd expect him to show more by now. He's got zero X factor

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            • Landers92L Offline
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              #1485

              About the only thing that Fihaki can do better than any other winger in NZ is 50+ metre kicks at goal. Says it all really.

              Luckily for him, he is in the right colours to get the benefit of the doubt over wingers that are actually better than him in NZ.

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              • frugbyF Offline
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                #1486

                Quite interesting to go back and look at previous threads. At this stage last season, people had Iose and Ioane on course for the ABs, and there were no mentions for Sititi. Hardly a mention yet of Darry, Ratima or Tosi.

                It is probably the form over the next two months that will truly decide the ABs squad. If the likes of Moananu, Kirifi, Parker etc. burn out, they will not be there.

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                • Landers92L Landers92

                  About the only thing that Fihaki can do better than any other winger in NZ is 50+ metre kicks at goal. Says it all really.

                  Luckily for him, he is in the right colours to get the benefit of the doubt over wingers that are actually better than him in NZ.

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                  #1487

                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                  About the only thing that Fihaki can do better than any other winger in NZ is 50+ metre kicks at goal. Says it all really.

                  Luckily for him, he is in the right colours to get the benefit of the doubt over wingers that are actually better than him in NZ.

                  A good skill to have but Isn't Stevenson considered a winger as well (at higher level anyway)? I won't be a smartarse and mention Jordie ..

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                  • frugbyF frugby

                    Quite interesting to go back and look at previous threads. At this stage last season, people had Iose and Ioane on course for the ABs, and there were no mentions for Sititi. Hardly a mention yet of Darry, Ratima or Tosi.

                    It is probably the form over the next two months that will truly decide the ABs squad. If the likes of Moananu, Kirifi, Parker etc. burn out, they will not be there.

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                    Bovidae
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                    #1488

                    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Quite interesting to go back and look at previous threads. At this stage last season, people had Iose and Ioane on course for the ABs, and there were no mentions for Sititi.

                    Sititi only first started for the Chiefs about this time last year, so that is not surprising. I agree that the backend of SR will be more important for any newbie to be in with a chance of AB selection.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Quite interesting to go back and look at previous threads. At this stage last season, people had Iose and Ioane on course for the ABs, and there were no mentions for Sititi.

                      Sititi only first started for the Chiefs about this time last year, so that is not surprising. I agree that the backend of SR will be more important for any newbie to be in with a chance of AB selection.

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                      #1489

                      @Bovidae Always has and always will be. Kirifi I suspect ends up being a great example of this. Assuming they see Savea & Lakai as opensides, he is going to be up against it against Blackadder and Papalii, and if the Canes form does not turn around he probably won't get to push his case in the finals.

                      FWIW, I would select him at this stage, but also, you compare him to say Tizzano or McReight, who are noted for their defensive capabilities/breakdown work, and I feel like they both offer more in possession than Kirifi. Lakai and Savea present a better all-round package.

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                        cgrant
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                        #1490

                        Probable Razor's pick :

                        Williams
                        Taylor
                        Lomax
                        Barrett
                        Vai'i
                        Blackadder
                        Savea
                        Sititi
                        Roigard
                        B. Barrett
                        Clarke
                        J. Barrett
                        Ioane
                        Reece
                        Jordan

                        Taukei'aho
                        De Groot
                        Newell
                        Tuipolutu
                        Finau
                        Hotham
                        ALB
                        MacKenzie

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                        • C cgrant

                          Probable Razor's pick :

                          Williams
                          Taylor
                          Lomax
                          Barrett
                          Vai'i
                          Blackadder
                          Savea
                          Sititi
                          Roigard
                          B. Barrett
                          Clarke
                          J. Barrett
                          Ioane
                          Reece
                          Jordan

                          Taukei'aho
                          De Groot
                          Newell
                          Tuipolutu
                          Finau
                          Hotham
                          ALB
                          MacKenzie

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                          KiwiInLondon
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1491

                          @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Probable Razor's pick :

                          Williams
                          Taylor
                          Lomax
                          Barrett
                          Vai'i
                          Blackadder
                          Savea
                          Sititi
                          Roigard
                          B. Barrett
                          Clarke
                          J. Barrett
                          Ioane
                          Reece
                          Jordan

                          Taukei'aho
                          De Groot
                          Newell
                          Tuipolutu
                          Finau
                          Hotham
                          ALB
                          MacKenzie

                          Finau has been the best six by a country mile. Would be outrageous to pick a seven ahead of him.

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                          • BovidaeB Offline
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                            Bovidae
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                            #1492

                            I'd like to see (6) Finau, (7) Savea and (8) Sititi.

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                            • K KiwiInLondon

                              @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Probable Razor's pick :

                              Williams
                              Taylor
                              Lomax
                              Barrett
                              Vai'i
                              Blackadder
                              Savea
                              Sititi
                              Roigard
                              B. Barrett
                              Clarke
                              J. Barrett
                              Ioane
                              Reece
                              Jordan

                              Taukei'aho
                              De Groot
                              Newell
                              Tuipolutu
                              Finau
                              Hotham
                              ALB
                              MacKenzie

                              Finau has been the best six by a country mile. Would be outrageous to pick a seven ahead of him.

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                              cgrant
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1493

                              @KiwiInLondon
                              I think this is the team Razor will select, but this is not the team I would like to see for the June series. My team (but it won't happen) :

                              Williams
                              Taylor
                              Lomax
                              Barrett
                              Vai'i
                              Finau
                              Savea
                              Sititi
                              Roigard
                              MacKenzie
                              Clarke
                              Barrett
                              Ioane
                              Jordan
                              Love

                              Taukei'aho
                              De Groot
                              Tosi
                              Beehre
                              Lakai
                              Hotham
                              Barrett
                              Tavatavanawai

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                              • Crazy HorseC Offline
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                                Crazy Horse
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                                #1494

                                Jordie hasn't had much of a break has he? If not, I wonder if that will impact his effectiveness and or availability for selection?

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                                • C cgrant

                                  @KiwiInLondon
                                  I think this is the team Razor will select, but this is not the team I would like to see for the June series. My team (but it won't happen) :

                                  Williams
                                  Taylor
                                  Lomax
                                  Barrett
                                  Vai'i
                                  Finau
                                  Savea
                                  Sititi
                                  Roigard
                                  MacKenzie
                                  Clarke
                                  Barrett
                                  Ioane
                                  Jordan
                                  Love

                                  Taukei'aho
                                  De Groot
                                  Tosi
                                  Beehre
                                  Lakai
                                  Hotham
                                  Barrett
                                  Tavatavanawai

                                  boobooB Offline
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                                  booboo
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1495

                                  @cgrant not so sure about Beehre and Lakai. Little issue with the rest.

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                                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                    Jordie hasn't had much of a break has he? If not, I wonder if that will impact his effectiveness and or availability for selection?

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                                    sparky
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1496

                                    @Crazy-Horse Jordie was Man of the Match for Leinster yesterday in the big European Cup QF win against Glasgow. He's not be used every game so he's had some rest time. He will be available for the AB tests and, if fit will be, the starting 12.

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                                    • C cgrant

                                      @KiwiInLondon
                                      I think this is the team Razor will select, but this is not the team I would like to see for the June series. My team (but it won't happen) :

                                      Williams
                                      Taylor
                                      Lomax
                                      Barrett
                                      Vai'i
                                      Finau
                                      Savea
                                      Sititi
                                      Roigard
                                      MacKenzie
                                      Clarke
                                      Barrett
                                      Ioane
                                      Jordan
                                      Love

                                      Taukei'aho
                                      De Groot
                                      Tosi
                                      Beehre
                                      Lakai
                                      Hotham
                                      Barrett
                                      Tavatavanawai

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                                      sparky
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1497

                                      @cgrant Starting 15 looks good. I wouldn't be using Beehre, but no real issues with the rest.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK Offline
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                                        KiwiMurph
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1498

                                        Pleased to see Beehre getting some recognition - I could see him leapfrogging Darry over the next 12 months

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                                          DurryMexted
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                                          #1499

                                          The Media and hype around Jordie in the champions cup is insane, they absolutely love the guy and he seems to be lighting it up over there. To be fair that leinster team is absolutely stacked so makes his job easy but seems to have done him a world of good in a new environment

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