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All Blacks 2025

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    Number 7: Ardie Savea.

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      Anyone else a bit worried that we aren't exactly overflowing with talented players on the Wing in form, in peak fitness and committed to staying in NZ to the next World Cup?

      The options are looking decidedly meagre.

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        Scooter should just hand over the captaincy to Ardie now.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

          @frugby Fakatava probably just misses out. But the other three must be there.

          Roigard hasn't been stand-out this year and has been a bit meh at times. Hopefully he'll click in before the Tests

          Not too worried. We seem to have reasonable options at 9.

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

          @frugby Fakatava probably just misses out. But the other three must be there.

          Roigard hasn't been stand-out this year and has been a bit meh at times. Hopefully he'll click in before the Tests

          Not too worried. We seem to have reasonable options at 9.

          He finally started running the ball last night. More of that please Cam.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            Scooter should just hand over the captaincy to Ardie now.

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            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

            Scooter should just hand over the captaincy to Ardie now.

            He's a shit AB captain Too agreeable

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            • sparkyS sparky

              Anyone else a bit worried that we aren't exactly overflowing with talented players on the Wing in form, in peak fitness and committed to staying in NZ to the next World Cup?

              The options are looking decidedly meagre.

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              @sparky Taumoefolau would be a bolter but he's a year away from being eligible, someone with more knowledge than me may know why he was never in the Crusaders system?

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                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                Scooter should just hand over the captaincy to Ardie now.

                He's a shit AB captain Too agreeable

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                @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                Scooter should just hand over the captaincy to Ardie now.

                He's a shit AB captain Too agreeable

                I’d prefer him though because he plays 80 and doesn’t get carded every two seconds like big munter Barrett.

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                  Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

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                  • FrankF Frank

                    Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

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                    @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

                    As the AB who holds the record for red cards, this comment is chef's kiss ferning.

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                    • FrankF Frank

                      Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

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                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

                      Scott is a card magnet, everyone knows that. I haven’t seen any evidence that Barrett handles the refs better than Ardie when Barrett gets himself in the bin frequently.

                      Plus Ardie is the type of player everyone will lift for, not sure SBarrett has the same influence.

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                        Finlay Christie is surely an ex- All Black. There are at least five better other options at Half Backs

                        A few other All Blacks backs from The Blues are in terrible form: Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Reiko Ioane.

                        If they can't sure better form in the final week then they risk the BIG CHOP from the selectors.

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          Finlay Christie is surely an ex- All Black. There are at least five better other options at Half Backs

                          A few other All Blacks backs from The Blues are in terrible form: Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Reiko Ioane.

                          If they can't sure better form in the final week then they risk the BIG CHOP from the selectors.

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                          @sparky when was the last time an experienced All Black was actually given the Chop? Owen Franks in 2019? TJP by Foster maybe? the last half decade only fringe guys Sotutu, Narawa etc. have suffered such a fate. I guess we will see what unfolds. Razor be ruthless give Rieko for example a kick up the ass send him to the NZ Maori team if need be

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                            Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Fakatava, Funaki and even Preston are better options than Christie.

                            Pledger won't be ready for a couple of years but he's the most promising young halfback coming through right now with Sinton.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

                              Scott is a card magnet, everyone knows that. I haven’t seen any evidence that Barrett handles the refs better than Ardie when Barrett gets himself in the bin frequently.

                              Plus Ardie is the type of player everyone will lift for, not sure SBarrett has the same influence.

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                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

                              Scott is a card magnet, everyone knows that. I haven’t seen any evidence that Barrett handles the refs better than Ardie when Barrett gets himself in the bin frequently.

                              Plus Ardie is the type of player everyone will lift for, not sure SBarrett has the same influence.

                              He only had one YC last year, so is on the improve since becoming captain.

                              We need a group of strong leaders and that’s where I think we are lacking.

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                                After watching the Landers v Canes
                                I'd say my bolter is Tele'a He was very impressive

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                                  After watching the Landers v Canes
                                  I'd say my bolter is Tele'a He was very impressive

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                                  @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  After watching the Landers v Canes
                                  I'd say my bolter is Tele'a He was very impressive

                                  I'd be interested to see his defensive stats, but he's certainly not a shirker. If we want a guy to truck it up and actually make ground, he appears to be the best shout.

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                                    @sparky when was the last time an experienced All Black was actually given the Chop? Owen Franks in 2019? TJP by Foster maybe? the last half decade only fringe guys Sotutu, Narawa etc. have suffered such a fate. I guess we will see what unfolds. Razor be ruthless give Rieko for example a kick up the ass send him to the NZ Maori team if need be

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                                    @Grooter

                                    Cory Jane and Israel Dagg being left out of the 2015 RWC World Cup squad for Nehe Milner-Skudder and Waisake Naholo with a broken leg are the last examples of a ruthless BIG CHOP from the All Blacks I can remember.

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                                      7 tackles is remarkably low for a loosie. What were the total tackle stats?

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                                        Interesting video considering we have given him plenty of welly on here.

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                                        • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                          @Bones said in Moana Pasifika v Blues:

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                                          The tackle stat is what I like there. Most of our 7s end up making 20-30 tackles a game with next to no impact on it, and end up getting praised for it.

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                                          @African-Monkey hopefully he gets a chance at 7nfor the ABs...he has been in some form.this year

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