All Blacks 2025
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
There’s two lines of thought on this. There’s rumours both ways on Savea, and the other thing is, if S Barrett didn’t have the respect of the players, he wouldn’t be captain. Who the captain is, is far from a big deal, and using it as a stick to beat Razor with is silly… it’s not like he’s made someone like Blackadder captain.
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Loose forwards I'd pick for the AB squad:
Jacobson, Lakai, Parker, Papalii, Savea, Sititi
With Blackadder, Finau and Kirifi just missing out. I don't think Sotutu fits with the current AB game plan.
Parker and Sititi are the contenders for starting 6.
Savea and Papalii are the contenders for starting 7.
Savea and Sititi are the contenders for starting 8.Jacobson and Lakai are great options from the bench. Wallace Sititi, if fit, must start somewhere.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
There’s two lines of thought on this. There’s rumours both ways on Savea, and the other thing is, if S Barrett didn’t have the respect of the players, he wouldn’t be captain. Who the captain is, is far from a big deal, and using it as a stick to beat Razor with is silly… it’s not like he’s made someone like Blackadder captain.
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
There’s two lines of thought on this. There’s rumours both ways on Savea, and the other thing is, if S Barrett didn’t have the respect of the players, he wouldn’t be captain. Who the captain is, is far from a big deal, and using it as a stick to beat Razor with is silly… it’s not like he’s made someone like Blackadder captain.
Who’s saying S.Barrett isn’t respected and who’s using it to beat Razor with a stick?
Not even remotely close to what I posted. No need to twist words mate. Simply posting what I’ve been told.
I’d also argue that who the captain is, is an incredibly big deal. This isn’t club footy.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
The captain is also supported by the leadership group who endorse that selection and they have including Ardie so no issue.
You can defend your boys as much as you want mate and that’s totally fine. I’m just stating that it doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else and that is a fact. Nothing else to be said.
We all know who Razor is picking mate. It is what it is. Just hope Barrett can pick his game up because as of right now based off form there’s an argument he shouldn’t even be in the starting XV.
Sure you are entitled to your opinion as I am.
Yeah it’s done deal Scooter will be Captain.
A couple of current ABs are on thin ice and maybe dropped.Facts are opinions now? Yes I along with the rest of the country outside of Canterbury have no doubt he’s still the captain. I’m not going to be a broken record just so you can get my point though.
Be interesting to know who are on thin ice. You have any names?
Amua form, De groot other things off the field.
I hear patience is wearing thin.Both will be in the squad.
not so sure
While they are at it, drop Blackadder then. We are all wearing thin at the fact he keeps getting selected. Let me guess Razor will pick Bell over Aumua?
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
The captain is also supported by the leadership group who endorse that selection and they have including Ardie so no issue.
You can defend your boys as much as you want mate and that’s totally fine. I’m just stating that it doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else and that is a fact. Nothing else to be said.
We all know who Razor is picking mate. It is what it is. Just hope Barrett can pick his game up because as of right now based off form there’s an argument he shouldn’t even be in the starting XV.
Sure you are entitled to your opinion as I am.
Yeah it’s done deal Scooter will be Captain.
A couple of current ABs are on thin ice and maybe dropped.Facts are opinions now? Yes I along with the rest of the country outside of Canterbury have no doubt he’s still the captain. I’m not going to be a broken record just so you can get my point though.
Be interesting to know who are on thin ice. You have any names?
Amua form, De groot other things off the field.
I hear patience is wearing thin.Both will be in the squad.
not so sure
While they are at it, drop Blackadder then. We are all wearing thin at the fact he keeps getting selected. Let me guess Razor will pick Bell over Aumua?
Would be pretty funny if it did happen.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
There’s two lines of thought on this. There’s rumours both ways on Savea, and the other thing is, if S Barrett didn’t have the respect of the players, he wouldn’t be captain. Who the captain is, is far from a big deal, and using it as a stick to beat Razor with is silly… it’s not like he’s made someone like Blackadder captain.
Who’s saying S.Barrett isn’t respected and who’s using it to beat Razor with a stick?
Not even remotely close to what I posted. No need to twist words mate. Simply posting what I’ve been told.
I’d also argue that who the captain is, is an incredibly big deal. This isn’t club footy.
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
There’s two lines of thought on this. There’s rumours both ways on Savea, and the other thing is, if S Barrett didn’t have the respect of the players, he wouldn’t be captain. Who the captain is, is far from a big deal, and using it as a stick to beat Razor with is silly… it’s not like he’s made someone like Blackadder captain.
Who’s saying S.Barrett isn’t respected and who’s using it to beat Razor with a stick?
Not even remotely close to what I posted. No need to twist words mate. Simply posting what I’ve been told.
I’d also argue that who the captain is, is an incredibly big deal. This isn’t club footy.
Well your sources are usually on the money so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
The captain is also supported by the leadership group who endorse that selection and they have including Ardie so no issue.
You can defend your boys as much as you want mate and that’s totally fine. I’m just stating that it doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else and that is a fact. Nothing else to be said.
We all know who Razor is picking mate. It is what it is. Just hope Barrett can pick his game up because as of right now based off form there’s an argument he shouldn’t even be in the starting XV.
Sure you are entitled to your opinion as I am.
Yeah it’s done deal Scooter will be Captain.
A couple of current ABs are on thin ice and maybe dropped.Facts are opinions now? Yes I along with the rest of the country outside of Canterbury have no doubt he’s still the captain. I’m not going to be a broken record just so you can get my point though.
Be interesting to know who are on thin ice. You have any names?
Amua form, De groot other things off the field.
I hear patience is wearing thin.Both will be in the squad.
not so sure
While they are at it, drop Blackadder then. We are all wearing thin at the fact he keeps getting selected. Let me guess Razor will pick Bell over Aumua?
Would be pretty funny if it did happen.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
The captain is also supported by the leadership group who endorse that selection and they have including Ardie so no issue.
You can defend your boys as much as you want mate and that’s totally fine. I’m just stating that it doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else and that is a fact. Nothing else to be said.
We all know who Razor is picking mate. It is what it is. Just hope Barrett can pick his game up because as of right now based off form there’s an argument he shouldn’t even be in the starting XV.
Sure you are entitled to your opinion as I am.
Yeah it’s done deal Scooter will be Captain.
A couple of current ABs are on thin ice and maybe dropped.Facts are opinions now? Yes I along with the rest of the country outside of Canterbury have no doubt he’s still the captain. I’m not going to be a broken record just so you can get my point though.
Be interesting to know who are on thin ice. You have any names?
Amua form, De groot other things off the field.
I hear patience is wearing thin.Both will be in the squad.
not so sure
While they are at it, drop Blackadder then. We are all wearing thin at the fact he keeps getting selected. Let me guess Razor will pick Bell over Aumua?
Would be pretty funny if it did happen.
Not sure it would be that funny. Some reckon Aumua is on thin ice and there are no clear stand outs to replace Aumua. Bell is in the group that is next in line and they rated him enough to include him last year.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
There’s two lines of thought on this. There’s rumours both ways on Savea, and the other thing is, if S Barrett didn’t have the respect of the players, he wouldn’t be captain. Who the captain is, is far from a big deal, and using it as a stick to beat Razor with is silly… it’s not like he’s made someone like Blackadder captain.
Who’s saying S.Barrett isn’t respected and who’s using it to beat Razor with a stick?
Not even remotely close to what I posted. No need to twist words mate. Simply posting what I’ve been told.
I’d also argue that who the captain is, is an incredibly big deal. This isn’t club footy.
Well your sources are usually on the money so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
There’s two lines of thought on this. There’s rumours both ways on Savea, and the other thing is, if S Barrett didn’t have the respect of the players, he wouldn’t be captain. Who the captain is, is far from a big deal, and using it as a stick to beat Razor with is silly… it’s not like he’s made someone like Blackadder captain.
Who’s saying S.Barrett isn’t respected and who’s using it to beat Razor with a stick?
Not even remotely close to what I posted. No need to twist words mate. Simply posting what I’ve been told.
I’d also argue that who the captain is, is an incredibly big deal. This isn’t club footy.
Well your sources are usually on the money so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
I’m not saying there will be a change. Just saying it should be weighed up based off what I’ve been told. Nothing more nothing less.
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Has Aumua been that bad? Not busting down doors, but hadn't picked up on him being so terrible he'd be dropped.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
Has Aumua been that bad? Not busting down doors, but hadn't picked up on him being so terrible he'd be dropped.
Clearly some have him on a much shorter leash than other players who were favoured more and did less in black last season. Or ever.
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Has Aumua been that bad? Not busting down doors, but hadn't picked up on him being so terrible he'd be dropped.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
Has Aumua been that bad? Not busting down doors, but hadn't picked up on him being so terrible he'd be dropped.
His line-out throwing has been pretty woeful in the past couple of games. Everything else he’s very solid at, hope he can sort his
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Has Aumua been that bad? Not busting down doors, but hadn't picked up on him being so terrible he'd be dropped.
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Williams
Taylor
Lomax
Barrett
Vaai
6?
Savea
Sititi
Roigard
DMac
Clarke
JB
Proctor
Jordan
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:
Amua has played himself out of contention and i agree Christie should not even be in the picture
The good thing for Aumua is that the next one in line is not obvious. The selectors might also see him as a bit of a 'project'. He's still young enough.
He was a beast on the end of year tour. He's just out of form
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:
Amua has played himself out of contention and i agree Christie should not even be in the picture
The good thing for Aumua is that the next one in line is not obvious. The selectors might also see him as a bit of a 'project'. He's still young enough.
He was a beast on the end of year tour. He's just out of form
I have no doubt he will be picked
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Williams
Taylor
Lomax
Barrett
Vaai
6?
Savea
Sititi
Roigard
DMac
Clarke
JB
Proctor
Jordan
Love@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:
Williams
Taylor
Lomax
Barrett
Vaai
6?
Savea
Sititi
Roigard
DMac
Clarke
JB
Proctor
Jordan
LoveOn the Breakdown Mils has Sititi at 6, Ardie at 7 and Lakai at 8. Would love to see it. The rest of that team is hard to argue with.
IMO we don’t need to physically match up to all teams, let’s just run them off their feet instead.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
There’s two lines of thought on this. There’s rumours both ways on Savea, and the other thing is, if S Barrett didn’t have the respect of the players, he wouldn’t be captain. Who the captain is, is far from a big deal, and using it as a stick to beat Razor with is silly… it’s not like he’s made someone like Blackadder captain.
Who’s saying S.Barrett isn’t respected and who’s using it to beat Razor with a stick?
Not even remotely close to what I posted. No need to twist words mate. Simply posting what I’ve been told.
I’d also argue that who the captain is, is an incredibly big deal. This isn’t club footy.
Well your sources are usually on the money so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
I’m not saying there will be a change. Just saying it should be weighed up based off what I’ve been told. Nothing more nothing less.
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.
There’s two lines of thought on this. There’s rumours both ways on Savea, and the other thing is, if S Barrett didn’t have the respect of the players, he wouldn’t be captain. Who the captain is, is far from a big deal, and using it as a stick to beat Razor with is silly… it’s not like he’s made someone like Blackadder captain.
Who’s saying S.Barrett isn’t respected and who’s using it to beat Razor with a stick?
Not even remotely close to what I posted. No need to twist words mate. Simply posting what I’ve been told.
I’d also argue that who the captain is, is an incredibly big deal. This isn’t club footy.
Well your sources are usually on the money so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
I’m not saying there will be a change. Just saying it should be weighed up based off what I’ve been told. Nothing more nothing less.
@Landers92 has a very credible source who I’m not going to disclose, so I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this was true.
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:
Williams
Taylor
Lomax
Barrett
Vaai
6?
Savea
Sititi
Roigard
DMac
Clarke
JB
Proctor
Jordan
LoveOn the Breakdown Mils has Sititi at 6, Ardie at 7 and Lakai at 8. Would love to see it. The rest of that team is hard to argue with.
IMO we don’t need to physically match up to all teams, let’s just run them off their feet instead.
@Canes4life The naysayers will say that loose forward trio would be too liteweight and too short in the lineouts.
No reason Lakai couldn't be subbed on with 30 to go.
Love needs a chance at FB. I prefer Jordan on the wing.
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Savea would be very comfortable with captaincy
