Otago 2025
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@frugby said in Otago 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Otago 2025:
I'm expecting to see some plonker from outside Otago bought in at lock.Could be headed the same way with our midfield again after the news that Josh Whaanga has injured his knee. Doesn’t sound too great at the moment.
At the moment it’s looking like TUJ, Gilbert could be asked to play there and a Josh Timu recall. Expect Joe Cooke to be around the squad again too.
@Landers92 said in Otago 2025:
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Otago 2025:
I'm expecting to see some plonker from outside Otago bought in at lock.Could be headed the same way with our midfield again after the news that Josh Whaanga has injured his knee. Doesn’t sound too great at the moment.
At the moment it’s looking like TUJ, Gilbert could be asked to play there and a Josh Timu recall. Expect Joe Cooke to be around the squad again too.
Whaanga as you say is MCL - but I've heard he is gone for the season. Timu trained as a tackle bag holder with the ABs, so expect him to get named. With Te Hiwi & probably TUJ that should leave us reasonably covered in the first instance. Gilbert will probably be used as an outside back?
Wonder if Creighton is coming back.
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@Landers92 said in Otago 2025:
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Otago 2025:
I'm expecting to see some plonker from outside Otago bought in at lock.Could be headed the same way with our midfield again after the news that Josh Whaanga has injured his knee. Doesn’t sound too great at the moment.
At the moment it’s looking like TUJ, Gilbert could be asked to play there and a Josh Timu recall. Expect Joe Cooke to be around the squad again too.
Whaanga as you say is MCL - but I've heard he is gone for the season. Timu trained as a tackle bag holder with the ABs, so expect him to get named. With Te Hiwi & probably TUJ that should leave us reasonably covered in the first instance. Gilbert will probably be used as an outside back?
Wonder if Creighton is coming back.
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
@Landers92 said in Otago 2025:
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Otago 2025:
I'm expecting to see some plonker from outside Otago bought in at lock.Could be headed the same way with our midfield again after the news that Josh Whaanga has injured his knee. Doesn’t sound too great at the moment.
At the moment it’s looking like TUJ, Gilbert could be asked to play there and a Josh Timu recall. Expect Joe Cooke to be around the squad again too.
Whaanga as you say is MCL - but I've heard he is gone for the season. Timu trained as a tackle bag holder with the ABs, so expect him to get named. With Te Hiwi & probably TUJ that should leave us reasonably covered in the first instance. Gilbert will probably be used as an outside back?
Wonder if Creighton is coming back.
He is out for 8 weeks. The goal is he will be back by the middle of the season
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I'd treat Gilbert like a band-aid. Just go where the gaps are. Everywhere from 10 out. Spend most of the year in the 22 jersey
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I'd treat Gilbert like a band-aid. Just go where the gaps are. Everywhere from 10 out. Spend most of the year in the 22 jersey
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@SouthernMann For right or for wrong, I'd expect him to be captain which means he basically has to start. I suppose they might use him at 12 as a glue kind of guy.
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
@SouthernMann For right or for wrong, I'd expect him to be captain which means he basically has to start. I suppose they might use him at 12 as a glue kind of guy.
That would be massively disappointing from a succession planning perspective. He is leaving. He has guys in the positions he plays staying and available. Leadership group, fine. Captain, just stupid. There are a lack of options, but a roadblock is not the right one. Give it to either Haig or Stodart.
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Side will be announced on Tuesday at a breakfast.
https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/‘pretty-stable’-npc-squad-works
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Side will be announced on Tuesday at a breakfast.
https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/‘pretty-stable’-npc-squad-works
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@SouthernMann can you copy the text? Thanks
@macmanus said in Otago 2025:
@SouthernMann can you copy the text? Thanks
Nah. The forum has a policy of not copying text from behind paywalls. ODT subscriptions are only $17 a month. It helps ensure content keeps getting delivered.
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@macmanus said in Otago 2025:
@SouthernMann can you copy the text? Thanks
Nah. The forum has a policy of not copying text from behind paywalls. ODT subscriptions are only $17 a month. It helps ensure content keeps getting delivered.
@SouthernMann sorry, I didn’t know.
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Paul Dwyer talking about three guys coming in from out of province. Two from Australia and one from Christchurch. Likely filling the obvious holes at lock, midfield and probably outside back.
https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/club-rugby/will-there-be-more-surprises
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I believe the midfielder from Canterbury is Jae Broomfield. Was Canterbury B player of the year last season and can also cover wing. Very classy player with great turn of pace
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Otago squad.
https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/interesting-newcomers-stable-squad
Players unavailable:
Holland, Christian Lio-Willie and George Bower are with the All Blacks, and Finn Hurley (quad, 10-12 weeks), Oliver Haig (ankle, 4-6 weeks), Jona Nareki (knee, 4-6 weeks), Josh Whaanga (knee, 6-8 weeks) and Jake Te Hiwi (groin, 4-6 weeks) are sidelined.
NPC squad
Hookers: Liam Coltman (Utah Warriors), Henry Bell (Kaikorai), A-One Lolofie (Zingari-Richmond).
Props: George Bower (Harbour), Benjamin Lopas (Green Island), Saula Ma’u (Harbour), Abraham Pole (Harbour), Moana Takataka (Kaikorai), Rohan Wingham (Dunedin).
Locks: Fabian Holland (Dunedin), Joseva Tamani (Fijian Drua), Will Tucker (Kaikorai).
Loose forwards: Lucas Casey (Kaikorai), Max Ratcliffe (Dunedin), Will Stodart (University), Harry Taylor (Southern), Konrad Toleafoa (Southern), Christian Lio-Willie (Kaikorai), Oliver Haig (Green Island).
Halfbacks: Nathan Hastie (Harbour), Dylan Pledger (Kaikorai), Bob Martin (Taieri).
First five: Cameron Millar (Taieri).
Midfield backs: Sam Gilbert (Green Island), Jake Te Hiwi (Green Island), Josh Timu (Southern), Thomas Umaga-Jensen (University), Josh Whaanga (Taieri).
Outside backs: Jeremiah Asi (University), Finn Hurley (Green Island), Jona Nareki (Alhambra-Union), Charlie Powell (Manly Marlins).
With all the injured players. There wil be several listed as cover/development players
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Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
Nah. If you read the article you'd see he is mentioned. Should likely be listed as a development player. Reading between the lines.
"Lock was always going to be a position of concern now Fabian Holland is virtually certain to be a regular in the All Blacks and New Zealand under-20 giant Josh Tengblad is being developed carefully."
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Otago squad.
https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/interesting-newcomers-stable-squad
Players unavailable:
Holland, Christian Lio-Willie and George Bower are with the All Blacks, and Finn Hurley (quad, 10-12 weeks), Oliver Haig (ankle, 4-6 weeks), Jona Nareki (knee, 4-6 weeks), Josh Whaanga (knee, 6-8 weeks) and Jake Te Hiwi (groin, 4-6 weeks) are sidelined.
NPC squad
Hookers: Liam Coltman (Utah Warriors), Henry Bell (Kaikorai), A-One Lolofie (Zingari-Richmond).
Props: George Bower (Harbour), Benjamin Lopas (Green Island), Saula Ma’u (Harbour), Abraham Pole (Harbour), Moana Takataka (Kaikorai), Rohan Wingham (Dunedin).
Locks: Fabian Holland (Dunedin), Joseva Tamani (Fijian Drua), Will Tucker (Kaikorai).
Loose forwards: Lucas Casey (Kaikorai), Max Ratcliffe (Dunedin), Will Stodart (University), Harry Taylor (Southern), Konrad Toleafoa (Southern), Christian Lio-Willie (Kaikorai), Oliver Haig (Green Island).
Halfbacks: Nathan Hastie (Harbour), Dylan Pledger (Kaikorai), Bob Martin (Taieri).
First five: Cameron Millar (Taieri).
Midfield backs: Sam Gilbert (Green Island), Jake Te Hiwi (Green Island), Josh Timu (Southern), Thomas Umaga-Jensen (University), Josh Whaanga (Taieri).
Outside backs: Jeremiah Asi (University), Finn Hurley (Green Island), Jona Nareki (Alhambra-Union), Charlie Powell (Manly Marlins).
With all the injured players. There wil be several listed as cover/development players
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@SouthernMann would hope Rique Miln is in as injury cover, he's a 10 but might be able to provide similar dynamic plays to Finn Hurley
@Grooter said in Otago 2025:
@SouthernMann would hope Rique Miln is in as injury cover, he's a 10 but might be able to provide similar dynamic plays to Finn Hurley
I want to see Miln get some starts at 10. We all now know what Millar can do. Try to see what some of the other options are like.
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Not naming Tengblad in the full squad is just ridiculous. He can be ‘developed carefully’ in the full squad, he’s clearly up to NPC level. Unless there is some loophole they are utilizing where they can elevate him due to other injuries it doesn’t really make much sense. Same for Kyan Rangitutia. Get your young guys locked in.
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Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
This was posted in another thread:
@Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:
NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026
The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?
