All Blacks v Argentina II
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Is it bad that I saw the Favourite Comedians thread title pop up, and instantly thought "Scott Robertson"....
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Is it bad that I saw the Favourite Comedians thread title pop up, and instantly thought "Scott Robertson"....
Yes. The word "Favourite" was in the title.
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On the backs:
Beauden has to go, but I've resigned myself to the fact that he won't. He's been consistently outperformed by McKenzie and keeps being selected ahead of him. This is just one more incidence of that, why should we expect the response to be different this time? Love should be on the bench.
Ratima's kicking is crap, rest of his game is okay. That works okay-ish (if somewhat limiting) with McKenzie who can kick, but will not work with BB who can't. Roigard can kick, he is a requirement with Beauden and would take pressure of McKenzie to do everything, which would help him a lot too. We are too conservative. Fakatava should be in the squad when we have so many injuries, he might make mistakes but at least he can spark something.
Jordie has been rocks and diamonds all season - he's probably shown enough to be persisted with, but both Jim and Tupaea have had very good seasons.
Reece should go. He's too small, too slow, gets too excited and is too dumb and a card waiting to happen. I hope that he's only there because of Tangitau and Clarke being injured, but I doubt it.
Rieko has gone from looking like a wing playing centre to looking like a centre playing wing.
Proctor probably both the least deserving and the most likely to get the chop. -
My backline assuming fitness for Boks
9. Roigard (but will be Christie)
10. Love
11. Clarke
12. Jordie.
13 Ioane (wing cover) stop gap 13
14 Carter
15. JordanBench backs - Preston, Tupaea. DMac
Beauden dropped, Proctor dropped.
Jason Holland fired.
Love brings new chemistry and energy to a stale backline.
If squad rules don't allow more changes, secretly kneecap a couple of players to bring a semi fit Tangitau in.
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@Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.
That Breakdown show is a national disgrace and everyone involved in it should be ashamed. Utterly ashamed.
Week after week, a panel of uncritical, naive cheerleaders are wheeled out to compete about who can read out talking points their pals in the All Blacks coaching set up have given them in the most gormless manner.
Week after week, they talk up the current All Balcks as if they are a mixture between the Harlem Globetrotters and the 1924-5 Invincibles.
The Aotearoa Rugby pod is little better. The same with the NZ Rugby press.
It's high time the coaches and the senior player got used to a bit of criticism again.
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Is it bad that I saw the Favourite Comedians thread title pop up, and instantly thought "Scott Robertson"....
@Donsteppa I was thinking Jeff Wilson......
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@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.
That Breakdown show is a national disgrace and everyone involved in it should be ashamed. Utterly ashamed.
Week after week, a panel of uncritical, naive cheerleaders are wheeled out to compete about who can read out talking points their pals in the All Blacks coaching set up have given them in the most gormless manner.
Week after week, they talk up the current All Balcks as if they are a mixture between the Harlem Globetrotters and the 1924-5 Invincibles.
The Aotearoa Rugby pod is little better. The same with the NZ Rugby press.
It's high time the coaches and the senior player got used to a bit of criticism again.
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.
That Breakdown show is a national disgrace and everyone involved in it should be ashamed. Utterly ashamed.
Week after week, a panel of uncritical, naive cheerleaders are wheeled out to compete about who can read out talking points their pals in the All Blacks coaching set up have given them in the most gormless manner.
Week after week, they talk up the current All Balcks as if they are a mixture between the Harlem Globetrotters and the 1924-5 Invincibles.
The Aotearoa Rugby pod is little better. The same with the NZ Rugby press.
It's high time the coaches and the senior player got used to a bit of criticism again.
If only Ma'a would stop playing and start criticising...
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Morning.
Still frustrated about this. I'd taken the win for granted. We got wasted. Ref was fine.
Please Razor make the tough calls
Roigard-DMac-Jordan-JB-Proctor-Clarke-Love just do it.
Savea or Sititi(C)
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Other than to appease the marketing men and to keep his other family members happy, why on earth are we persisting with Beauden Barrett in the All Blacks 10 jersey?
I can't remember the last time he played well in the 10 jersey for the ABs. Certainly not this year and not last year either.
Other options at First Five are available.
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For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.
You just advocated for DMac...
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The segment I hate most on the Breakdown this year is when they invite the New Zealand public to vote on who the All Blacks should pick.
And then their panel of insiders condescendingly mock the great unwashed for not having the same opinions as the "experts". Just awful. 🤮
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For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.
He might have a few other issues but you can see why they at least wanted to have a look at Fihaki. He chases hard and his arial work with his size and athleticism is very good.
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Something rotten in the selecting, coaching, and preparation.
Farming out selection to each assistant is a pussy head coach move. Man up Razor, this is your team.
This idea of selection by each assistant only works if the team has a clear approach to play that is agreed upon and acted upon from top to bottom. This team does not have that.
Change is needed - if it isn' players, sack some coaches. If Hansen is the main man in the backs, turn them all over to him and hold him responsible; equally the same goes for Holland. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, as they say, and it tastes like shit.
You've got guys playing significantly worse in the Black jersey than they were a month ago in Super (or European) rugby. That's on coaching and preparation and I doubt that these guys can figure out why because they dumped the previous admin on mass, so there is little institutional knowledge to provide guidance on where things are going wrong.
Assuming that a coach won't get sacked, then the coaches have to show that they have the balls to dump senior players right now. If they believe they have the right game plan and can prepare players appropriately, dump these guys for poor performances and reward those who come in and play accurately.
@gt12 I don’t think that’s how it works though. Yes there is a bit more autonomy from the Assistants in making their case for their respective areas, but there still needs to be Razor sign off. So I don’t think he’s phoning it in or abdicating his responsibility as head honcho.
Last week we found a way to lift and critical to that was possession. This week we didn’t value the ball and when you’re chasing it becomes both on impossible to do anything that can turn it.
