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All Blacks v Argentina II

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @brodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Sititi obviously covers 7.

    This looks a pretty handy forward pack. Let's see how they go.

    Not sure it was that obvious, has he played there before?

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @brodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Sititi obviously covers 7.

    This looks a pretty handy forward pack. Let's see how they go.

    Not sure it was that obvious, has he played there before?

    Yes. Has played npc and under-age at 7.

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      Well personally I quite like the team. Real happy with Parker getting start, seem to be carrying on with size thing, which I like. I must admit I would of perhaps had a different reserve halfback, but can also understand Razor and co being a little conservative with selection for the in case if Ratima got injured early. Maybe they not convinced about Presto's ability to drive the team for long amount of time. Kind of only real reason I can think of.
      But altogether, I give them a thumbs up .

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        Everyone has been asking for a bigger loose forward trio, there you have it. Who covers 7?

        I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to have Leroy Carter off the bench covering wing and halfback, then we would could of had an extra loosie in Lakai.

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        @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to have Leroy Carter off the bench covering wing and halfback, then we would could of had an extra loosie in Lakai.

        It would probably be unheard of to have a rookie covering such a crucial position in test rugby when he's not even known for it at any level, let alone being known for any other position.

        But yeah, hurricanes!

        Hurricanes.

        Hurricanes.

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          Excited about Parker, really surprised to see him start ahead of Sititi though. Big ol' forward pack with a very mobile finish.

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          • KiwiMurphK Online
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            More excellent oil @Landers92

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to have Leroy Carter off the bench covering wing and halfback, then we would could of had an extra loosie in Lakai.

              It would probably be unheard of to have a rookie covering such a crucial position in test rugby when he's not even known for it at any level, let alone being known for any other position.

              But yeah, hurricanes!

              Hurricanes.

              Hurricanes.

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              @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to have Leroy Carter off the bench covering wing and halfback, then we would could of had an extra loosie in Lakai.

              It would probably be unheard of to have a rookie covering such a crucial position in test rugby when he's not even known for it at any level, let alone being known for any other position.

              But yeah, hurricanes!

              Hurricanes.

              Hurricanes.

              I think your point would be valid if the guy coming off the bench wasn’t a risk himself.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to have Leroy Carter off the bench covering wing and halfback, then we would could of had an extra loosie in Lakai.

                It would probably be unheard of to have a rookie covering such a crucial position in test rugby when he's not even known for it at any level, let alone being known for any other position.

                But yeah, hurricanes!

                Hurricanes.

                Hurricanes.

                I think your point would be valid if the guy coming off the bench wasn’t a risk himself.

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                @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to have Leroy Carter off the bench covering wing and halfback, then we would could of had an extra loosie in Lakai.

                It would probably be unheard of to have a rookie covering such a crucial position in test rugby when he's not even known for it at any level, let alone being known for any other position.

                But yeah, hurricanes!

                Hurricanes.

                Hurricanes.

                I think your point would be valid if the guy coming off the bench actually offered something.

                Iose must be injured.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to have Leroy Carter off the bench covering wing and halfback, then we would could of had an extra loosie in Lakai.

                  It would probably be unheard of to have a rookie covering such a crucial position in test rugby when he's not even known for it at any level, let alone being known for any other position.

                  But yeah, hurricanes!

                  Hurricanes.

                  Hurricanes.

                  I think your point would be valid if the guy coming off the bench actually offered something.

                  Iose must be injured.

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                  @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to have Leroy Carter off the bench covering wing and halfback, then we would could of had an extra loosie in Lakai.

                  It would probably be unheard of to have a rookie covering such a crucial position in test rugby when he's not even known for it at any level, let alone being known for any other position.

                  But yeah, hurricanes!

                  Hurricanes.

                  Hurricanes.

                  I think your point would be valid if the guy coming off the bench actually offered something.

                  Iose must be injured.

                  What does Iose have to do with Christie?

                  My suggestion was to have a bench of Taukei’aho, Williams, Tosi, Lord, Sititi, Lakai, Carter and McKenzie, forming our own bomb squad. Perfect test to try it.

                  You’re too conservative in your old age.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to have Leroy Carter off the bench covering wing and halfback, then we would could of had an extra loosie in Lakai.

                    It would probably be unheard of to have a rookie covering such a crucial position in test rugby when he's not even known for it at any level, let alone being known for any other position.

                    But yeah, hurricanes!

                    Hurricanes.

                    Hurricanes.

                    I think your point would be valid if the guy coming off the bench actually offered something.

                    Iose must be injured.

                    What does Iose have to do with Christie?

                    My suggestion was to have a bench of Taukei’aho, Williams, Tosi, Lord, Sititi, Lakai, Carter and McKenzie, forming our own bomb squad. Perfect test to try it.

                    You’re too conservative in your old age.

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                    @Canes4life The idea is good but given Carter doesn't perform that role at super level it is a massive risk to try it in test rugby though

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                    • Landers92L Landers92

                      Simon Parker looking likely for his debut is the other thing im being told to expect

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                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      Simon Parker looking likely for his debut is the other thing im being told to expect

                      Glad the sauce came through with the goods. Was a bit worried about posting this one and risking the credibility.

                      Excited to see what Parker can do. Like this loose trio balance a lot more than last weekends.

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                      • African MonkeyA Offline
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                        Tuipulotu is a big miss when you see Lord there, otherwise the bench looks alright.

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                        • C Chuck72

                          @Canes4life The idea is good but given Carter doesn't perform that role at super level it is a massive risk to try it in test rugby though

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                          @Chuck72 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @Canes4life The idea is good but given Carter doesn't perform that role at super level it is a massive risk to try it in test rugby though

                          Carter has a diverse skillset largely due to his sevens background so I think he could do the business. I’ve seen him play pre season Super Rugby at 9 and he didn’t look out of place in that position.

                          Yes it’s a risk but it could come with huge reward if it pays off. I was literally just throwing it out there as a suggestion. What’s the point in having all these young backs in the squad if you aren’t going to try things. Plus, what does Christie offer that Carter couldn’t replicate? Christie never does anything.

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                            Lord has previous test match experience in Argentina and played well so hoping to see a good shift from him on the bench.

                            Pleased to see Vaai kept at 6.

                            Parker and Sititi will be fascinating - especially with the Eden Park Boks test around the corner.

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                            • jimmybJ jimmyb

                              You have to wonder if everyone is fit, does Kirifi even get any more minutes for the remainder of the year?

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                              @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              You have to wonder if everyone is fit, does Kirifi even get any more minutes for the remainder of the year?

                              I don't think so. He will play again, but if it was his last test, then he wouldn't be missed.

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                              • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                Tuipulotu is a big miss when you see Lord there, otherwise the bench looks alright.

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                                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                Tuipulotu is a big miss when you see Lord there, otherwise the bench looks alright.

                                Yeah it not only sucks when a player who is in really good form gets injured, but that their role in the team is well defined and they are playing to it.

                                Patty and Lord are chalk and cheese in terms of the type of player they are.

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                                • His BobnessH His Bobness

                                  Surely NZ has a better fourth choice halfback option than Christie? What about Fakatava? And why the lack of imagination or willingness to at least roll the dice a little with the backs overall? Something badly wrong with the coaching set up

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                                  @His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  Surely NZ has a better fourth choice halfback option than Christie? What about Fakatava? And why the lack of imagination or willingness to at least roll the dice a little with the backs overall? Something badly wrong with the coaching set up

                                  Not sure he would be any better than Christie.

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                                    Wonder if Scott Hansen is the Christie selector, as I remember Razor saying each coach selects their coaching area

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      Surely NZ has a better fourth choice halfback option than Christie? What about Fakatava? And why the lack of imagination or willingness to at least roll the dice a little with the backs overall? Something badly wrong with the coaching set up

                                      Not sure he would be any better than Christie.

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                                      I'll just drop this here...
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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        Everyone has been asking for a bigger loose forward trio, there you have it. Who covers 7?

                                        I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to have Leroy Carter off the bench covering wing and halfback, then we would could of had an extra loosie in Lakai.

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                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        Everyone has been asking for a bigger loose forward trio, there you have it. Who covers 7?

                                        Wallace should.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK Online
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                                          The coaches have their biggest stretches of tests coming up with Boks and Wallabies at Eden Park in the same month

                                          ABs are down 2 halfbacks and Christie is experienced

                                          It's not that hard to understand

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