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All Blacks v Argentina II

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  • K kidcalder

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    We are stuck with Razor til 2027 regardless of results. Time to accept it.

    Yip easier to change his staff Ala fossie
    Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

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    KiwiMurph
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    @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    We are stuck with Razor til 2027 regardless of results. Time to accept it.

    Yip easier to change his staff Ala fossie
    Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

    Schmidt is tied to Aus. That ship has sailed.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

      Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

      Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

      Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

      At least give him a go to find out

      He’s been in the leadership group for 8-9 years. He frequently finishes the match as captain. He clearly doesn’t make much of a difference. Different voices are needed ASAP. The old heads are not going to do it

      Like last week when he finished as captain and we dominated the last 20 minutes?

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      #833

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

      Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

      Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

      Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

      At least give him a go to find out

      He’s been in the leadership group for 8-9 years. He frequently finishes the match as captain. He clearly doesn’t make much of a difference. Different voices are needed ASAP. The old heads are not going to do it

      Like last week when he finished as captain and we dominated the last 20 minutes?

      All the countless times he’s been part of a a complete cluster fuck. What I’m saying is that the current leadership group we’ve had since 2019 is shit. We need new voices in it.

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      • LagerLoutL LagerLout

        @stodders you must be bloody blind if you think there was a single thing in that performance that was even par. But hey, you kiddos would know.

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        @LagerLout said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        @stodders you must be bloody blind if you think there was a single thing in that performance that was even par. But hey, you kiddos would know.

        I didn’t say it was good. Just not as stinky as other stinkers I’ve seen. Do you remember the abject performance in Nelspruit in 2022? Never seen an AB team munched as much that day.

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        • jimmybJ jimmyb

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

          Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

          Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

          Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

          At least give him a go to find out

          He’s been in the leadership group for 8-9 years. He frequently finishes the match as captain. He clearly doesn’t make much of a difference. Different voices are needed ASAP. The old heads are not going to do it

          Like last week when he finished as captain and we dominated the last 20 minutes?

          All the countless times he’s been part of a a complete cluster fuck. What I’m saying is that the current leadership group we’ve had since 2019 is shit. We need new voices in it.

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          KiwiMurph
          wrote on last edited by
          #835

          @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

          Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

          Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

          Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

          At least give him a go to find out

          He’s been in the leadership group for 8-9 years. He frequently finishes the match as captain. He clearly doesn’t make much of a difference. Different voices are needed ASAP. The old heads are not going to do it

          Like last week when he finished as captain and we dominated the last 20 minutes?

          All the countless times he’s been part of a a complete cluster fuck. What I’m saying is that the current leadership group we’ve had since 2019 is shit. We need new voices in it.

          I hear you. But I'm talking in the short term we'd be better with Ardie than Scott Barrett

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            Frank
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            All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol

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            • K kidcalder

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              We are stuck with Razor til 2027 regardless of results. Time to accept it.

              Yip easier to change his staff Ala fossie
              Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

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              Victor Meldrew
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              @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

              Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

                Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023

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                Frank
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                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

                Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023

                Please summarize why.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

                  Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023

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                  stodders
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                  #839

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

                  Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023

                  Old school?

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    We are stuck with Razor til 2027 regardless of results. Time to accept it.

                    Yip easier to change his staff Ala fossie
                    Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

                    Schmidt is tied to Aus. That ship has sailed.

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                    Darth Sader
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                    #840

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    We are stuck with Razor til 2027 regardless of results. Time to accept it.

                    Yip easier to change his staff Ala fossie
                    Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

                    Schmidt is tied to Aus. That ship has sailed.

                    Regardless, he doesn’t want to work with Razor. They had a summit when Fozzie almost got rolled, and that was one of the outcomes (apparently)

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                      Canes4life
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                      #841

                      Change the coach. Give Jamie Joseph the job.

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                        kidcalder
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                        #842

                        Scott Barrett was a brilliant lock...but captaincy doesn't always suit players... added mental pressure on someone that maybe is showing it isn't for him.

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                          stodders
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                          They made Fozzie sack his assistants (albeit from a worse position after a series loss to Ireland). Maybe the NZRU need to have a word with Razor about his assistant coaches now.

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                          • S stodders

                            They made Fozzie sack his assistants (albeit from a worse position after a series loss to Ireland). Maybe the NZRU need to have a word with Razor about his assistant coaches now.

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                            kidcalder
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                            @stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            They made Fozzie sack his assistants (albeit from a worse position after a series loss to Ireland). Maybe the NZRU need to have a word with Razor about his assistant coaches now.

                            Nail head

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                              reprobate
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                              Well beaten by a better side who played almost all the rugby.
                              Positives: Newell was good, and... ah I guess we make that 'positive' singular.
                              Negatives: hopeless in the air, terrible discipline, poor tactics, no leadership, shit goal-kicking.

                              MOTM Matera, what a champ.

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                                KiwiMurph
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                                #846

                                Razor is going to start his own Eden Park streak

                                2 losses in one month at the Garden

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  Change the coach. Give Jamie Joseph the job.

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                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  Change the coach. Give Jamie Joseph the job.

                                  Time to stop hiring NZers and go international. Is David Nucifora still coaching?

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                                    #848

                                    Sititi to be captain.

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                                      BerniesCorner
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                                      Last 20 minutes was terrible.
                                      Panicking, no leadership, brain farts.

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                                      • FrankF Frank

                                        Sititi to be captain.

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                                        @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        Sititi to be captain.

                                        I hear you bro

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                                          Darth Sader
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                                          I had a lot of hope for Razor, but honestly we’re lacking the basic structure that someone like Schmidt brings. Our play may have been more conservative under someone like that, but we’d have better fundamentals. He’s blooded a few new players, but essentially playing the same team/plan as Foster. Very disappointed with the lack of progression. Some areas have gone backwards.

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