All Blacks v Springboks I
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The problem is still the paucity of ideas or punch from the backline and the conservative selections. Love should have been given a shot in the second Argentinan test, but Robertson (worried about losing games primarily) appears to be shying away from succession planning. I wonder, too, whether they need to move JB out one to 13 and have Tupea starting at 12. It will be interesting to see whether they use Leicester F in the Wellington test - perhaps off the bench, with Jordan at 14, Love at 15 and Caleb Clarke at 11.
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
The problem is still the paucity of ideas or punch from the backline and the conservative selections.
Highlighted by when Jordie came back on. He could have went back to fullback to finish the game, and DMac into 1st 5 by subbing BB. But no, the Barrett contract clause kicked in.
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Is it just me or is that the most well balanced loosie trio we've put out in a long time?
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Is it just me or is that the most well balanced loosie trio we've put out in a long time?
And showed Parker is best at 6, not no.8.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
My Dad was at Eden Park in 1956 when the All Blacks secured that famous series.
My father, who is still alive, was at that test too. He, his father and brother were also at the Waikato game on that tour.
RIP.
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Problem with the loose trio is that we were really happy at 6 and 8
And then happy when 7 moved to 8 -
@canefan I’d give Rieko a rest
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@canefan I’d give Rieko a rest
TBF, I though he was resting tonight.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Is it just me or is that the most well balanced loosie trio we've put out in a long time?
And showed Parker is best at 6, not no.8.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Is it just me or is that the most well balanced loosie trio we've put out in a long time?
And showed Parker is best at 6, not no.8.
Yep. Thought the same in Super too.
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@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@canefan I’d give Rieko a rest
TBF, I though he was resting tonight.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@canefan I’d give Rieko a rest
TBF, I though he was resting tonight.
Good trysaver he made on the line at least.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@canefan I’d give Rieko a rest
TBF, I though he was resting tonight.
Good trysaver he made on the line at least.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@canefan I’d give Rieko a rest
TBF, I though he was resting tonight.
Good trysaver he made on the line at least.
I wasn't making a big dig at Reiko.
I agree with @His-Bobness - he looks really cooked.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@canefan I’d give Rieko a rest
TBF, I though he was resting tonight.
Good trysaver he made on the line at least.
I wasn't making a big dig at Reiko.
I agree with @His-Bobness - he looks really cooked.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@canefan I’d give Rieko a rest
TBF, I though he was resting tonight.
Good trysaver he made on the line at least.
I wasn't making a big dig at Reiko.
I agree with @His-Bobness - he looks really cooked.
Yeah, there's a reason why we tend to go with youth on the wings in this country traditionally.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@canefan I’d give Rieko a rest
TBF, I though he was resting tonight.
Good trysaver he made on the line at least.
I wasn't making a big dig at Reiko.
I agree with @His-Bobness - he looks really cooked.
Yeah, there's a reason why we tend to go with youth on the wings in this country traditionally.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@canefan I’d give Rieko a rest
TBF, I though he was resting tonight.
Good trysaver he made on the line at least.
I wasn't making a big dig at Reiko.
I agree with @His-Bobness - he looks really cooked.
Yeah, there's a reason why we tend to go with youth on the wings in this country traditionally.
Even the great wingers reach 27 and they're out
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Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.
Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.
@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.
Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.
I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.
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@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.
Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.
I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.
Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.
I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.
And yet his kicking was better than our apparent second ranked 9. That is a concern
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@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.
Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.
I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.
Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.
I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.
For a second there I thought you were talking about Beauden Barrett...
Ginga was the best available option - in an ideal world he wouldn't be in the 23. . Did some shit stuff as did other players, but also plenty of good stuff.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.
Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.
I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.
And yet his kicking was better than our apparent second ranked 9. That is a concern
@canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.
Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.
I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.
And yet his kicking was better than our apparent second ranked 9. That is a concern
There are major skill gaps in New Zealand rugby. And in a professional era it seems we don'[t have sufficient competition for them to be working on fixing them.
I mean how is it we had Nuggy for so long and yet we're now still suffering halfbacks who pass poorly when he showed you just have to work on core skills?
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.
Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.
I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.
For a second there I thought you were talking about Beauden Barrett...
Ginga was the best available option - in an ideal world he wouldn't be in the 23. . Did some shit stuff as did other players, but also plenty of good stuff.
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@frugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Personally think some of the critique of Christie is harsh. He is the fourth choice halfback, and he played like a fourth choice halfback - but you can’t knock his effort levels.
Considering the circumstances, I think criticising him for what he simply can’t do feels unfair.
I find it unfathomable that such a limited player is the fourth best option in New Zealand. He can't think quickly, can't execute decisively and he's fucking inaccurate.
And yet his kicking was better than our apparent second ranked 9. That is a concern
There are major skill gaps in New Zealand rugby. And in a professional era it seems we don'[t have sufficient competition for them to be working on fixing them.
I mean how is it we had Nuggy for so long and yet we're now still suffering halfbacks who pass poorly when he showed you just have to work on core skills?
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
I mean how is it we had Nuggy for so long and yet we're now still suffering halfbacks who pass poorly when he showed you just have to work on core skills?
Because the guys who idolised and copied AS are now only in their late teens?
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
I mean how is it we had Nuggy for so long and yet we're now still suffering halfbacks who pass poorly when he showed you just have to work on core skills?
Because the guys who idolised and copied AS are now only in their late teens?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
I mean how is it we had Nuggy for so long and yet we're now still suffering halfbacks who pass poorly when he showed you just have to work on core skills?
Because the guys who idolised and copied AS are now only in their late teens?
Because the guys that wanted his job are professionals? Roigard, Ratima and Christie were in their late teens when Aaron was playing for the All Blacks.
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Well, I'm not getting into a conversation defending Christie as anything more than 4th string, but his kicking was good, he dealt with the Boks around the ruck well and some of his passing in open play was spot on.
Certainly no worse than the AB scrum.
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Well, I'm not getting into a conversation defending Christie as anything more than 4th string, but his kicking was good, he dealt with the Boks around the ruck well and some of his passing in open play was spot on.
Certainly no worse than the AB scrum.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Well, I'm not getting into a conversation defending Christie as anything more than 4th string, but his kicking was good, he dealt with the Boks around the ruck well and some of his passing in open play was spot on.
Certainly no worse than the AB scrum.
Razor left him on about 15 minutes too long IMHO. We saw more bad Christie than good as the game went on
