All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I
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@brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.
Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.
Dominant Carry % (desc)
59.3 AJ Lam
56.8 Sam Gilbert
53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
48.0 Peter Umaga-JensenGainline %
80.0 AJ Lam
76.7 Xavi Taele
75.7 Riley Higgins
75.0 Julian Savea
67.8 Sam Gilbert
64.2 Quinn TupaeaCarries Committing 2+ Tacklers
82.1% Julian Savea
75.3% AJ Lam
71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
70.6% Levi Aumua
67.0% Quinn Tupaea
65.0% Leicester Fainga'anukuTackle Evasion %
43.2 Billy Proctor
37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
34.3 AJ Lam
32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
30.5 David HaviliTackle Success
93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
90.0% Braydon Ennor
88.7% Jordie Barrett
88.7% Xavi Taele
88.5% Quinn Tupaea
87.9% AJ LamDominant Tackle %
17.5 Braydon Ennor
14.9 Billy Proctor
9.5 AJ Lam
8.6 Gideon Wrampling
8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
8.3 Sam GilbertLam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.
Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.
Dominant Carry % (desc)
59.3 AJ Lam
56.8 Sam Gilbert
53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
48.0 Peter Umaga-JensenGainline %
80.0 AJ Lam
76.7 Xavi Taele
75.7 Riley Higgins
75.0 Julian Savea
67.8 Sam Gilbert
64.2 Quinn TupaeaCarries Committing 2+ Tacklers
82.1% Julian Savea
75.3% AJ Lam
71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
70.6% Levi Aumua
67.0% Quinn Tupaea
65.0% Leicester Fainga'anukuTackle Evasion %
43.2 Billy Proctor
37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
34.3 AJ Lam
32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
30.5 David HaviliTackle Success
93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
90.0% Braydon Ennor
88.7% Jordie Barrett
88.7% Xavi Taele
88.5% Quinn Tupaea
87.9% AJ LamDominant Tackle %
17.5 Braydon Ennor
14.9 Billy Proctor
9.5 AJ Lam
8.6 Gideon Wrampling
8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
8.3 Sam GilbertLam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.
Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.
Dominant Carry % (desc)
59.3 AJ Lam
56.8 Sam Gilbert
53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
48.0 Peter Umaga-JensenGainline %
80.0 AJ Lam
76.7 Xavi Taele
75.7 Riley Higgins
75.0 Julian Savea
67.8 Sam Gilbert
64.2 Quinn TupaeaCarries Committing 2+ Tacklers
82.1% Julian Savea
75.3% AJ Lam
71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
70.6% Levi Aumua
67.0% Quinn Tupaea
65.0% Leicester Fainga'anukuTackle Evasion %
43.2 Billy Proctor
37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
34.3 AJ Lam
32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
30.5 David HaviliTackle Success
93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
90.0% Braydon Ennor
88.7% Jordie Barrett
88.7% Xavi Taele
88.5% Quinn Tupaea
87.9% AJ LamDominant Tackle %
17.5 Braydon Ennor
14.9 Billy Proctor
9.5 AJ Lam
8.6 Gideon Wrampling
8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
8.3 Sam GilbertLam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.
Those stats also show Ennor is the best defensive centre by a long way.
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@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel
Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence. -
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel
Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel
Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Same old shit selections win this one then get smoked in Perth.
Pattern remains the same so no chance of progression.I probably missed any suggestion you made prior to (all the conjecture just became white noise). But what would be your changes?
I would be more radical
D Mac to first five,Love to the bench BB gone,
LF to centre someone who can bend the line.
Especiallyas Suaali’i is not a great defender.
Williams would start Norris on the bench another ball runner.
And play more direct with those changes.@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Same old shit selections win this one then get smoked in Perth.
Pattern remains the same so no chance of progression.I probably missed any suggestion you made prior to (all the conjecture just became white noise). But what would be your changes?
I would be more radical
D Mac to first five,Love to the bench BB gone,
LF to centre someone who can bend the line.
Especiallyas Suaali’i is not a great defender.
Williams would start Norris on the bench another ball runner.
And play more direct with those changes.I'm with you at 10.
Not on the LF wagon (but not delighted with our options)
And Norris is injured. -
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel
Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel
Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'
Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon. -
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.
Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.
Dominant Carry % (desc)
59.3 AJ Lam
56.8 Sam Gilbert
53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
48.0 Peter Umaga-JensenGainline %
80.0 AJ Lam
76.7 Xavi Taele
75.7 Riley Higgins
75.0 Julian Savea
67.8 Sam Gilbert
64.2 Quinn TupaeaCarries Committing 2+ Tacklers
82.1% Julian Savea
75.3% AJ Lam
71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
70.6% Levi Aumua
67.0% Quinn Tupaea
65.0% Leicester Fainga'anukuTackle Evasion %
43.2 Billy Proctor
37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
34.3 AJ Lam
32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
30.5 David HaviliTackle Success
93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
90.0% Braydon Ennor
88.7% Jordie Barrett
88.7% Xavi Taele
88.5% Quinn Tupaea
87.9% AJ LamDominant Tackle %
17.5 Braydon Ennor
14.9 Billy Proctor
9.5 AJ Lam
8.6 Gideon Wrampling
8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
8.3 Sam GilbertLam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Same old shit selections win this one then get smoked in Perth.
Pattern remains the same so no chance of progression.I probably missed any suggestion you made prior to (all the conjecture just became white noise). But what would be your changes?
I would be more radical
D Mac to first five,Love to the bench BB gone,
LF to centre someone who can bend the line.
Especiallyas Suaali’i is not a great defender.
Williams would start Norris on the bench another ball runner.
And play more direct with those changes.I'm with you at 10.
Not on the LF wagon (but not delighted with our options)
And Norris is injured.@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Same old shit selections win this one then get smoked in Perth.
Pattern remains the same so no chance of progression.I probably missed any suggestion you made prior to (all the conjecture just became white noise). But what would be your changes?
I would be more radical
D Mac to first five,Love to the bench BB gone,
LF to centre someone who can bend the line.
Especiallyas Suaali’i is not a great defender.
Williams would start Norris on the bench another ball runner.
And play more direct with those changes.I'm with you at 10.
Not on the LF wagon (but not delighted with our options)
And Norris is injured.Is he ? Bower was released last week and he was cover for Norris,Since Bower has not come back to the squad I though Norris was now fit,
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@brodean Are those stats only for games when those guys played in the midfield - or are they season stats for guys who sometimes played in other positions?
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@brodean Are those stats only for games when those guys played in the midfield - or are they season stats for guys who sometimes played in other positions?
Lams form has also fallen off a cliff in NPC he has been poor.
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great additions, BB still remains though, so I remain nervous
@bayimports said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
great additions, BB still remains though, so I remain nervous
I predict he will pull off all the bullshit moves and win the game handily, so you all forget how bang ordinary he is.
Razor will be a genius
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel
Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'
Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel
Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'
Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.I hoped so , and I not saying Procyor great, all I saying LF was poor in France, I hope it was miscommunication, but at times he didn't even attempt tackles which what worried me , an awful lot.
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@bayimports said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
great additions, BB still remains though, so I remain nervous
I predict he will pull off all the bullshit moves and win the game handily, so you all forget how bang ordinary he is.
Razor will be a genius
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@bayimports said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
great additions, BB still remains though, so I remain nervous
I predict he will pull off all the bullshit moves and win the game handily, so you all forget how bang ordinary he is.
Razor will be a genius
sadism runs strong with this one
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel
Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'
Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.I hoped so , and I not saying Procyor great, all I saying LF was poor in France, I hope it was miscommunication, but at times he didn't even attempt tackles which what worried me , an awful lot.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel
Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'
Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.I hoped so , and I not saying Procyor great, all I saying LF was poor in France, I hope it was miscommunication, but at times he didn't even attempt tackles which what worried me , an awful lot.
That is fine mate I understand what you are saying
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@bayimports said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
great additions, BB still remains though, so I remain nervous
I predict he will pull off all the bullshit moves and win the game handily, so you all forget how bang ordinary he is.
Razor will be a genius
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@NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive
Forgive is such a strong word…..
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Euy8PbbJu/?mibextid=wwXIfr
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive
Forgive is such a strong word…..
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Euy8PbbJu/?mibextid=wwXIfr
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive
Forgive is such a strong word…..
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Euy8PbbJu/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Mortlock. Hell of a player. Especially against NZ.
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@Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I really want to see some angry ABs out there this week.
Within reason. I don't want to see more cards.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive
Forgive is such a strong word…..
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Euy8PbbJu/?mibextid=wwXIfr
@ACT-Crusader I did say briefly...
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Those wanting to see more of LSL have got their wish.
https://www.rugby.com.au/news/wallabies-side-all-blacks-bledisloe-cup-rugby-championship-2025925
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Lukhan Salakaia-Loto has been given the job of Eden Park enforcer after being named to make his first start for the Wallabies this year against the All Blacks on Saturday.
The call-up for the big Queensland lock came as Wallabies coach Joe Schmidt also turned to a new starting partnership in the halves for the opening Bledisloe Cup clash, with Tate McDermott and James O’Connor trusted to run the show for Australia at the intimidating Auckland venue.
From the Sydney Morning Herald just now
