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All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

    Forgive is such a strong word…..

    https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Euy8PbbJu/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      @NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

      Forgive is such a strong word…..

      https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Euy8PbbJu/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      @NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

      Forgive is such a strong word…..

      https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Euy8PbbJu/?mibextid=wwXIfr

      Mortlock. Hell of a player. Especially against NZ.

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      • R Rangi

        I really want to see some angry ABs out there this week.

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        @Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

        I really want to see some angry ABs out there this week.

        Within reason. I don't want to see more cards.

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

          @NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

          Forgive is such a strong word…..

          https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Euy8PbbJu/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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          @ACT-Crusader I did say briefly...

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            Those wanting to see more of LSL have got their wish.

            https://www.rugby.com.au/news/wallabies-side-all-blacks-bledisloe-cup-rugby-championship-2025925

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              Lukhan Salakaia-Loto has been given the job of Eden Park enforcer after being named to make his first start for the Wallabies this year against the All Blacks on Saturday.

              The call-up for the big Queensland lock came as Wallabies coach Joe Schmidt also turned to a new starting partnership in the halves for the opening Bledisloe Cup clash, with Tate McDermott and James O’Connor trusted to run the show for Australia at the intimidating Auckland venue.

              From the Sydney Morning Herald just now

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                @NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

                Forgive is such a strong word…..

                https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Euy8PbbJu/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                @NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

                Forgive is such a strong word…..

                https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Euy8PbbJu/?mibextid=wwXIfr

                Mils.
                Fucking.
                Scored.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @akan004 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  BB will probably look ok against a passive Wallaby defence, as will a few others. This test will paper over the cracks and will tell us very little.

                  Roigard back is a huge boost for this side. I reckon he should just skip Beauden altogether when we attack.

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                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  @akan004 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  BB will probably look ok against a passive Wallaby defence, as will a few others. This test will paper over the cracks and will tell us very little.

                  Roigard back is a huge boost for this side. I reckon he should just skip Beauden altogether when we attack.

                  the Hurricanes site says he is a 9/10 but he has not played 10 at a high level has he?

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                  • B brodean

                    For me Quinn Tupaea is also lucky. He showed a lot of promise during Super Rugby but he was disappointing in this RC especially in the last game.

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                    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                    For me Quinn Tupaea is also lucky. He showed a lot of promise during Super Rugby but he was disappointing in this RC especially in the last game.

                    He came on late out of position and replaced a guy who missed two tackles in one movement that led to the Boks set play and try that set them on their run.

                    It wasn't a good night at the office, but all of the replacements who came on at that time were average, as were the majority of the rest of the other players in that time.

                    So not sure how he is any luckier than any other player.

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                      For me Quinn Tupaea is also lucky. He showed a lot of promise during Super Rugby but he was disappointing in this RC especially in the last game.

                      He came on late out of position and replaced a guy who missed two tackles in one movement that led to the Boks set play and try that set them on their run.

                      It wasn't a good night at the office, but all of the replacements who came on at that time were average, as were the majority of the rest of the other players in that time.

                      So not sure how he is any luckier than any other player.

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                      @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                      @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                      For me Quinn Tupaea is also lucky. He showed a lot of promise during Super Rugby but he was disappointing in this RC especially in the last game.

                      He came on late out of position and replaced a guy who missed two tackles in one movement that led to the Boks set play and try that set them on their run.

                      It wasn't a good night at the office, but all of the replacements who came on at that time were average, as were the majority of the rest of the other players in that time.

                      So not sure how he is any luckier than any other player.

                      Well, he's unlucky that there is an undroppable Barrett in the position he is best suited to.

                      Not quite sure how a guy who broke the line and scored a terrific individual try in the previous Springbok match is "lucky" to be there.

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                      • B brodean

                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.

                        Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.

                        Dominant Carry % (desc)
                        59.3 AJ Lam
                        56.8 Sam Gilbert
                        53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
                        53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                        51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
                        48.0 Peter Umaga-Jensen

                        Gainline %
                        80.0 AJ Lam
                        76.7 Xavi Taele
                        75.7 Riley Higgins
                        75.0 Julian Savea
                        67.8 Sam Gilbert
                        64.2 Quinn Tupaea

                        Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
                        82.1% Julian Savea
                        75.3% AJ Lam
                        71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
                        70.6% Levi Aumua
                        67.0% Quinn Tupaea
                        65.0% Leicester Fainga'anuku

                        Tackle Evasion %
                        43.2 Billy Proctor
                        37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
                        34.3 AJ Lam
                        32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                        31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                        30.5 David Havili

                        Tackle Success
                        93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
                        90.0% Braydon Ennor
                        88.7% Jordie Barrett
                        88.7% Xavi Taele
                        88.5% Quinn Tupaea
                        87.9% AJ Lam

                        Dominant Tackle %
                        17.5 Braydon Ennor
                        14.9 Billy Proctor
                        9.5 AJ Lam
                        8.6 Gideon Wrampling
                        8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
                        8.3 Sam Gilbert

                        Lam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.

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                        @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.

                        Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.

                        Dominant Carry % (desc)
                        59.3 AJ Lam
                        56.8 Sam Gilbert
                        53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
                        53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                        51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
                        48.0 Peter Umaga-Jensen

                        Gainline %
                        80.0 AJ Lam
                        76.7 Xavi Taele
                        75.7 Riley Higgins
                        75.0 Julian Savea
                        67.8 Sam Gilbert
                        64.2 Quinn Tupaea

                        Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
                        82.1% Julian Savea
                        75.3% AJ Lam
                        71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
                        70.6% Levi Aumua
                        67.0% Quinn Tupaea
                        65.0% Leicester Fainga'anuku

                        Tackle Evasion %
                        43.2 Billy Proctor
                        37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
                        34.3 AJ Lam
                        32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                        31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                        30.5 David Havili

                        Tackle Success
                        93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
                        90.0% Braydon Ennor
                        88.7% Jordie Barrett
                        88.7% Xavi Taele
                        88.5% Quinn Tupaea
                        87.9% AJ Lam

                        Dominant Tackle %
                        17.5 Braydon Ennor
                        14.9 Billy Proctor
                        9.5 AJ Lam
                        8.6 Gideon Wrampling
                        8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
                        8.3 Sam Gilbert

                        Lam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.

                        I find stats odd when Potbelly can commit so many tacklers, evade so many tacklers....yet is far from dominant and is mostly behind the gainline?

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                        • R restofit

                          Is Lakai selection more of a reaction to our implosion in the final 20 when the bench guys came on or has he just not been 100% fit until now?

                          I just don't understand why Kirifi was getting picked over him for so long when Lakai's ceiling is higher, he's 22 vs Kirifi 28 and he's 110kg vs Kirifi 103kg.

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                          @restofit said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          Is Lakai selection more of a reaction to our implosion in the final 20 when the bench guys came on or has he just not been 100% fit until now?

                          I just don't understand why Kirifi was getting picked over him for so long when Lakai's ceiling is higher, he's 22 vs Kirifi 28 and he's 110kg vs Kirifi 103kg.

                          I’ve been saying this since Lakai became available. He’s just so much more suited to test rugby.

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                            @Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

                            Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
                            Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

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                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                            @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                            @Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

                            Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
                            Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

                            Defence optional midfields?

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                              @brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.

                              Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.

                              Dominant Carry % (desc)
                              59.3 AJ Lam
                              56.8 Sam Gilbert
                              53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
                              53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                              51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
                              48.0 Peter Umaga-Jensen

                              Gainline %
                              80.0 AJ Lam
                              76.7 Xavi Taele
                              75.7 Riley Higgins
                              75.0 Julian Savea
                              67.8 Sam Gilbert
                              64.2 Quinn Tupaea

                              Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
                              82.1% Julian Savea
                              75.3% AJ Lam
                              71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
                              70.6% Levi Aumua
                              67.0% Quinn Tupaea
                              65.0% Leicester Fainga'anuku

                              Tackle Evasion %
                              43.2 Billy Proctor
                              37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
                              34.3 AJ Lam
                              32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                              31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                              30.5 David Havili

                              Tackle Success
                              93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
                              90.0% Braydon Ennor
                              88.7% Jordie Barrett
                              88.7% Xavi Taele
                              88.5% Quinn Tupaea
                              87.9% AJ Lam

                              Dominant Tackle %
                              17.5 Braydon Ennor
                              14.9 Billy Proctor
                              9.5 AJ Lam
                              8.6 Gideon Wrampling
                              8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
                              8.3 Sam Gilbert

                              Lam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.

                              Those stats also show Ennor is the best defensive centre by a long way.

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                              @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                              @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
                              Those stats also show Ennor is the best defensive centre by a long way.

                              I think he's a very good defender but its not really clear that he's the best. Both Ennor and ALB didn't make a lot of tackles over the season.

                              In terms of completed tackles per 80 minutes Ennor is ranked 18 out of 23.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                @Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

                                Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
                                Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

                                Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'

                                Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
                                Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.

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                                @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                @Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

                                Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
                                Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

                                Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'

                                Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
                                Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.

                                Saying Proctor has nothing on attack or defence is garbage. We know what he’s capable of because we’ve seen it for so long. The game plan is bullshit and it’s completely fucked his confidence, because he’s been asked to do what he wasn’t picked for i.e spending most of his game being a dummy runner, cleaning rucks, and chasing kicks. All energy swooning shit.

                                Maybe let’s give Proctor some ball to play with, you know instead of kicking the ball away at 9/10 or crashing the ball up at 12 in almost every play that we do. I’d like the ABs to play with width, they looked so good when they did that in the first 15 mins or so of the last test.

                                In the first 15 mins Proctor had three solid touches, one underneath his own sticks to put Carter away when Beauden decided to run it. He’s certainly capable, everyone just needs to do their fking job to a high standard, instead of looking like a bunch of clowns who don’t know what the game plan is.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                  @brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.

                                  Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.

                                  Dominant Carry % (desc)
                                  59.3 AJ Lam
                                  56.8 Sam Gilbert
                                  53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
                                  53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                                  51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
                                  48.0 Peter Umaga-Jensen

                                  Gainline %
                                  80.0 AJ Lam
                                  76.7 Xavi Taele
                                  75.7 Riley Higgins
                                  75.0 Julian Savea
                                  67.8 Sam Gilbert
                                  64.2 Quinn Tupaea

                                  Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
                                  82.1% Julian Savea
                                  75.3% AJ Lam
                                  71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
                                  70.6% Levi Aumua
                                  67.0% Quinn Tupaea
                                  65.0% Leicester Fainga'anuku

                                  Tackle Evasion %
                                  43.2 Billy Proctor
                                  37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
                                  34.3 AJ Lam
                                  32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                                  31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                                  30.5 David Havili

                                  Tackle Success
                                  93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
                                  90.0% Braydon Ennor
                                  88.7% Jordie Barrett
                                  88.7% Xavi Taele
                                  88.5% Quinn Tupaea
                                  87.9% AJ Lam

                                  Dominant Tackle %
                                  17.5 Braydon Ennor
                                  14.9 Billy Proctor
                                  9.5 AJ Lam
                                  8.6 Gideon Wrampling
                                  8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
                                  8.3 Sam Gilbert

                                  Lam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.

                                  I find stats odd when Potbelly can commit so many tacklers, evade so many tacklers....yet is far from dominant and is mostly behind the gainline?

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                  @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                  @brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.

                                  Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.

                                  Dominant Carry % (desc)
                                  59.3 AJ Lam
                                  56.8 Sam Gilbert
                                  53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
                                  53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                                  51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
                                  48.0 Peter Umaga-Jensen

                                  Gainline %
                                  80.0 AJ Lam
                                  76.7 Xavi Taele
                                  75.7 Riley Higgins
                                  75.0 Julian Savea
                                  67.8 Sam Gilbert
                                  64.2 Quinn Tupaea

                                  Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
                                  82.1% Julian Savea
                                  75.3% AJ Lam
                                  71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
                                  70.6% Levi Aumua
                                  67.0% Quinn Tupaea
                                  65.0% Leicester Fainga'anuku

                                  Tackle Evasion %
                                  43.2 Billy Proctor
                                  37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
                                  34.3 AJ Lam
                                  32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                                  31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                                  30.5 David Havili

                                  Tackle Success
                                  93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
                                  90.0% Braydon Ennor
                                  88.7% Jordie Barrett
                                  88.7% Xavi Taele
                                  88.5% Quinn Tupaea
                                  87.9% AJ Lam

                                  Dominant Tackle %
                                  17.5 Braydon Ennor
                                  14.9 Billy Proctor
                                  9.5 AJ Lam
                                  8.6 Gideon Wrampling
                                  8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
                                  8.3 Sam Gilbert

                                  Lam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.

                                  I find stats odd when Potbelly can commit so many tacklers, evade so many tacklers....yet is far from dominant and is mostly behind the gainline?

                                  Well the stats are from https://theanalyst.com/club-rugby-stats so take it up with Opta you think they're inaccurate

                                  Tavatavanawai
                                  34.4% Dominant Carry
                                  51.7% Gainline

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                                  • B brodean

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    @brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.

                                    Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.

                                    Dominant Carry % (desc)
                                    59.3 AJ Lam
                                    56.8 Sam Gilbert
                                    53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
                                    53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                                    51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
                                    48.0 Peter Umaga-Jensen

                                    Gainline %
                                    80.0 AJ Lam
                                    76.7 Xavi Taele
                                    75.7 Riley Higgins
                                    75.0 Julian Savea
                                    67.8 Sam Gilbert
                                    64.2 Quinn Tupaea

                                    Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
                                    82.1% Julian Savea
                                    75.3% AJ Lam
                                    71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
                                    70.6% Levi Aumua
                                    67.0% Quinn Tupaea
                                    65.0% Leicester Fainga'anuku

                                    Tackle Evasion %
                                    43.2 Billy Proctor
                                    37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
                                    34.3 AJ Lam
                                    32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                                    31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                                    30.5 David Havili

                                    Tackle Success
                                    93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
                                    90.0% Braydon Ennor
                                    88.7% Jordie Barrett
                                    88.7% Xavi Taele
                                    88.5% Quinn Tupaea
                                    87.9% AJ Lam

                                    Dominant Tackle %
                                    17.5 Braydon Ennor
                                    14.9 Billy Proctor
                                    9.5 AJ Lam
                                    8.6 Gideon Wrampling
                                    8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
                                    8.3 Sam Gilbert

                                    Lam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.

                                    I find stats odd when Potbelly can commit so many tacklers, evade so many tacklers....yet is far from dominant and is mostly behind the gainline?

                                    Well the stats are from https://theanalyst.com/club-rugby-stats so take it up with Opta you think they're inaccurate

                                    Tavatavanawai
                                    34.4% Dominant Carry
                                    51.7% Gainline

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                                    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    @brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.

                                    Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.

                                    Dominant Carry % (desc)
                                    59.3 AJ Lam
                                    56.8 Sam Gilbert
                                    53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
                                    53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                                    51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
                                    48.0 Peter Umaga-Jensen

                                    Gainline %
                                    80.0 AJ Lam
                                    76.7 Xavi Taele
                                    75.7 Riley Higgins
                                    75.0 Julian Savea
                                    67.8 Sam Gilbert
                                    64.2 Quinn Tupaea

                                    Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
                                    82.1% Julian Savea
                                    75.3% AJ Lam
                                    71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
                                    70.6% Levi Aumua
                                    67.0% Quinn Tupaea
                                    65.0% Leicester Fainga'anuku

                                    Tackle Evasion %
                                    43.2 Billy Proctor
                                    37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
                                    34.3 AJ Lam
                                    32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
                                    31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                                    30.5 David Havili

                                    Tackle Success
                                    93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
                                    90.0% Braydon Ennor
                                    88.7% Jordie Barrett
                                    88.7% Xavi Taele
                                    88.5% Quinn Tupaea
                                    87.9% AJ Lam

                                    Dominant Tackle %
                                    17.5 Braydon Ennor
                                    14.9 Billy Proctor
                                    9.5 AJ Lam
                                    8.6 Gideon Wrampling
                                    8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
                                    8.3 Sam Gilbert

                                    Lam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.

                                    I find stats odd when Potbelly can commit so many tacklers, evade so many tacklers....yet is far from dominant and is mostly behind the gainline?

                                    Well the stats are from https://theanalyst.com/club-rugby-stats so take it up with Opta you think they're inaccurate

                                    Tavatavanawai
                                    34.4% Dominant Carry
                                    51.7% Gainline

                                    If I still lived in Tunbridge Wells I'd write a letter. What a shame.

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                                      @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                      @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
                                      Those stats also show Ennor is the best defensive centre by a long way.

                                      I think he's a very good defender but its not really clear that he's the best. Both Ennor and ALB didn't make a lot of tackles over the season.

                                      In terms of completed tackles per 80 minutes Ennor is ranked 18 out of 23.

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                                      @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                      @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
                                      Those stats also show Ennor is the best defensive centre by a long way.

                                      I think he's a very good defender but its not really clear that he's the best. Both Ennor and ALB didn't make a lot of tackles over the season.

                                      In terms of completed tackles per 80 minutes Ennor is ranked 18 out of 23.

                                      Well of course that depends on the possession stats how many tackles per 80 min you can make.
                                      And how the opposition uses possession.

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                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                        @Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

                                        Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
                                        Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

                                        Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'

                                        Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
                                        Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.

                                        Saying Proctor has nothing on attack or defence is garbage. We know what he’s capable of because we’ve seen it for so long. The game plan is bullshit and it’s completely fucked his confidence, because he’s been asked to do what he wasn’t picked for i.e spending most of his game being a dummy runner, cleaning rucks, and chasing kicks. All energy swooning shit.

                                        Maybe let’s give Proctor some ball to play with, you know instead of kicking the ball away at 9/10 or crashing the ball up at 12 in almost every play that we do. I’d like the ABs to play with width, they looked so good when they did that in the first 15 mins or so of the last test.

                                        In the first 15 mins Proctor had three solid touches, one underneath his own sticks to put Carter away when Beauden decided to run it. He’s certainly capable, everyone just needs to do their fking job to a high standard, instead of looking like a bunch of clowns who don’t know what the game plan is.

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                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                        @Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

                                        Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
                                        Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

                                        Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'

                                        Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
                                        Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.

                                        Saying Proctor has nothing on attack or defence is garbage. We know what he’s capable of because we’ve seen it for so long. The game plan is garbage and it’s completely fucked his confidence. That’s on the coaches in my view.

                                        Maybe let’s give Proctor some ball to play with, you know instead of kicking the ball away at 9/10 or crashing the ball up at 12 in almost every play that we do. I’d like the ABs to play with width, they looked so good when they did that in the first 15 mins or so of the last test.

                                        In the first 15 mins Proctor had three solid touches, one underneath his own sticks to put Carter away when Beauden decided to run it. He’s certainly capable, everyone just needs to do their fking job to a high standard, instead of looking like a bunch of clowns who don’t know what the game plan is.

                                        We give him the ball and gives away points through and intercept.

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                                          @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
                                          Those stats also show Ennor is the best defensive centre by a long way.

                                          I think he's a very good defender but its not really clear that he's the best. Both Ennor and ALB didn't make a lot of tackles over the season.

                                          In terms of completed tackles per 80 minutes Ennor is ranked 18 out of 23.

                                          Well of course that depends on the possession stats how many tackles per 80 min you can make.
                                          And how the opposition uses possession.

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                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
                                          Those stats also show Ennor is the best defensive centre by a long way.

                                          I think he's a very good defender but its not really clear that he's the best. Both Ennor and ALB didn't make a lot of tackles over the season.

                                          In terms of completed tackles per 80 minutes Ennor is ranked 18 out of 23.

                                          Well of course that depends on the possession stats how many tackles per 80 min you can make.
                                          And how the opposition uses possession.

                                          David Havili was doing all of Ennor's defensive work for him.

                                          Tackles Per 80 Minutes
                                          17.51 David Havili
                                          7.49 Braydon Ennor

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