All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II
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Wallaby side:
1 Slipper
2 Pollard
3 AAA
4 Frost
5 Skelton
6 Hooper
7 McReight
8 Wilson (c)
9 Gordon
10 Edmed
11 Daugunu
12 Ikitau
13 JAS
14 Potter
15 Jorgensen16 Nasser
17 Robertson
18 Tupou
19 Williams
20 Valetini
21 Lonergan
22 JOC
23 Flook@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Wallaby side:
1 Slipper
2 Pollard
3 AAA
4 Frost
5 Skelton
6 Hooper
7 McReight
8 Wilson (c)
9 Gordon
10 Edmed
11 Daugunu
12 Ikitau
13 JAS
14 Potter
15 Jorgensen16 Nasser
17 Robertson
18 Tupou
19 Williams
20 Valetini
21 Lonergan
22 JOC
23 FlookThis may go unnoticed by the in-fighting around AB selection. From what I've seen - most Ferners/NZers will start watching the game with zero knowledge of who "we"'re playing against... but all manner of outrage around our team.
I'd like to make an informed comment on that team but... I'm frankly no better. -
I guess SB, Vaai is our 'premier' locking combo, Tuipulotu is quality too so needs to be there, Holland is surplus.
As to the loosies...it's a big man's game...
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
As to the loosies...it's a big man's game...
Parker is bigger than when Kaino became a fixture in the ABs from post 05, so I have hopes with him. He has good size for even the modern day blindsides.
Lakai is on the shorter side for a modern day flanker around 6’1 maybe 6’2 at best. A skilled player, but he will be tested.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
As to the loosies...it's a big man's game...
Parker is bigger than when Kaino became a fixture in the ABs from post 05, so I have hopes with him. He has good size for even the modern day blindsides.
Lakai is on the shorter side for a modern day flanker around 6’1 maybe 6’2 at best. A skilled player, but he will be tested.
@ACT-Crusader if Parker was a bit more dynamic with ball in hand he could be at 8 and Vaai to 6, that'd be a good loose trio with any of Savea, Lakai or Kirifi at 7.
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Rieko is back, on the bench?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Rieko is back, on the bench?
Presume that is because of utility value rather than form. I think the change they need to make is the backline coach. Playing a 2nd at centre is risky. Hope he goes well but smacks of desperation rather than a plan.
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@ACT-Crusader if Parker was a bit more dynamic with ball in hand he could be at 8 and Vaai to 6, that'd be a good loose trio with any of Savea, Lakai or Kirifi at 7.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@ACT-Crusader if Parker was a bit more dynamic with ball in hand he could be at 8 and Vaai to 6, that'd be a good loose trio with any of Savea, Lakai or Kirifi at 7.
He might have to change super rugby teams if he wants to get his hands on the ball more often, with all the other glory ball forwards in that Chiefs pack.
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I'd swap Savea and Lakai around, see what Lakai can bring to the table as a 7 as Savea the seagull certainly ain't one.
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@ACT-Crusader if Parker was a bit more dynamic with ball in hand he could be at 8 and Vaai to 6, that'd be a good loose trio with any of Savea, Lakai or Kirifi at 7.
@taniwharugby Too bad Parker will always move like a Snail
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Wallaby side:
1 Slipper
2 Pollard
3 AAA
4 Frost
5 Skelton
6 Hooper
7 McReight
8 Wilson (c)
9 Gordon
10 Edmed
11 Daugunu
12 Ikitau
13 JAS
14 Potter
15 Jorgensen16 Nasser
17 Robertson
18 Tupou
19 Williams
20 Valetini
21 Lonergan
22 JOC
23 FlookThis may go unnoticed by the in-fighting around AB selection. From what I've seen - most Ferners/NZers will start watching the game with zero knowledge of who "we"'re playing against... but all manner of outrage around our team.
I'd like to make an informed comment on that team but... I'm frankly no better.@Kruse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Wallaby side:
1 Slipper
2 Pollard
3 AAA
4 Frost
5 Skelton
6 Hooper
7 McReight
8 Wilson (c)
9 Gordon
10 Edmed
11 Daugunu
12 Ikitau
13 JAS
14 Potter
15 Jorgensen16 Nasser
17 Robertson
18 Tupou
19 Williams
20 Valetini
21 Lonergan
22 JOC
23 FlookThis may go unnoticed by the in-fighting around AB selection. From what I've seen - most Ferners/NZers will start watching the game with zero knowledge of who "we"'re playing against... but all manner of outrage around our team.
I'd like to make an informed comment on that team but... I'm frankly no better.Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half with the other young fella who played most of the match last week, remaining as the reserve scrum half. No change to the inside centre and outside centre combination.
A forced change on the left wing with the other outside backs the same.
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@Kruse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Wallaby side:
1 Slipper
2 Pollard
3 AAA
4 Frost
5 Skelton
6 Hooper
7 McReight
8 Wilson (c)
9 Gordon
10 Edmed
11 Daugunu
12 Ikitau
13 JAS
14 Potter
15 Jorgensen16 Nasser
17 Robertson
18 Tupou
19 Williams
20 Valetini
21 Lonergan
22 JOC
23 FlookThis may go unnoticed by the in-fighting around AB selection. From what I've seen - most Ferners/NZers will start watching the game with zero knowledge of who "we"'re playing against... but all manner of outrage around our team.
I'd like to make an informed comment on that team but... I'm frankly no better.Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half with the other young fella who played most of the match last week, remaining as the reserve scrum half. No change to the inside centre and outside centre combination.
A forced change on the left wing with the other outside backs the same.
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@Kruse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Wallaby side:
1 Slipper
2 Pollard
3 AAA
4 Frost
5 Skelton
6 Hooper
7 McReight
8 Wilson (c)
9 Gordon
10 Edmed
11 Daugunu
12 Ikitau
13 JAS
14 Potter
15 Jorgensen16 Nasser
17 Robertson
18 Tupou
19 Williams
20 Valetini
21 Lonergan
22 JOC
23 FlookThis may go unnoticed by the in-fighting around AB selection. From what I've seen - most Ferners/NZers will start watching the game with zero knowledge of who "we"'re playing against... but all manner of outrage around our team.
I'd like to make an informed comment on that team but... I'm frankly no better.Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half with the other young fella who played most of the match last week, remaining as the reserve scrum half. No change to the inside centre and outside centre combination.
A forced change on the left wing with the other outside backs the same.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half
Who both play at the Waratahs, it should be noted. Maybe that's a cohesion thing?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Rieko is back, on the bench?
Presume that is because of utility value rather than form. I think the change they need to make is the backline coach. Playing a 2nd at centre is risky. Hope he goes well but smacks of desperation rather than a plan.
@kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Rieko is back, on the bench?
Presume that is because of utility value rather than form. I think the change they need to make is the backline coach. Playing a 2nd at centre is risky. Hope he goes well but smacks of desperation rather than a plan.
What’s the alternative? Proctor has been poor so he appropriately gets dropped. Tupaea is the next cab off the rank but J Barrett is probably the second best player in this team and it’s not really an option to drop him. Tupaea has played 13 plenty of times and Ioane is there to cover if it turns to shit. I’m not sure what the alternative is given we don’t have another 13 in NZ that’s any good
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I've got to be honest, I can't see any "bold" selections.
More along the lines of "forced by injury" and "stupid"
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Massive underwhelming selections in the forwards. I expect Wilson and the rest of the Wallabies pack to have a blinder against us.
Our selectors are the worst I can recall.
Hopefully Roigard can continue his great form from last week.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half
Who both play at the Waratahs, it should be noted. Maybe that's a cohesion thing?
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half
Who both play at the Waratahs, it should be noted. Maybe that's a cohesion thing?
Definitely. Now that winning the Bledisloe is out of the equation, I think it’s good that Schmidt is giving another 10 test experience.
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half
Who both play at the Waratahs, it should be noted. Maybe that's a cohesion thing?
Definitely. Now that winning the Bledisloe is out of the equation, I think it’s good that Schmidt is giving another 10 test experience.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half
Who both play at the Waratahs, it should be noted. Maybe that's a cohesion thing?
Definitely. Now that winning the Bledisloe is out of the equation, I think it’s good that Schmidt is giving another 10 test experience.
Especially as I think we need to thank JOC for his time and bid him farewell. Need to work hard on the stock we have onshore and use overseas only as a backup
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@ACT-Crusader pretty brutal looking forward pack both starting and bench.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@ACT-Crusader pretty brutal looking forward pack both starting and bench.
Skelton will be a big plus, will be interesting to see how long he plays for.
I thought we did a decent job and preventing the likes of McReight and Hooper from getting turnover ball which they are both very good at. But their forward attack was able to make metres because of bodies in motion.
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Holland paying the price for his tendency to ruck watch when the heat comes on, instead of getting eyes up when realigning? Aussie caught him out easy with one of their tries and I seem to recall this happening before too.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Holland paying the price for his tendency to ruck watch when the heat comes on, instead of getting eyes up when realigning? Aussie caught him out easy with one of their tries and I seem to recall this happening before too.
Happened against France too.
