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All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    @NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half

    Who both play at the Waratahs, it should be noted. Maybe that's a cohesion thing?

    Definitely. Now that winning the Bledisloe is out of the equation, I think it’s good that Schmidt is giving another 10 test experience.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half

    Who both play at the Waratahs, it should be noted. Maybe that's a cohesion thing?

    Definitely. Now that winning the Bledisloe is out of the equation, I think it’s good that Schmidt is giving another 10 test experience.

    Especially as I think we need to thank JOC for his time and bid him farewell. Need to work hard on the stock we have onshore and use overseas only as a backup

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    • BonesB Bones

      @ACT-Crusader pretty brutal looking forward pack both starting and bench.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

      @ACT-Crusader pretty brutal looking forward pack both starting and bench.

      Skelton will be a big plus, will be interesting to see how long he plays for.

      I thought we did a decent job and preventing the likes of McReight and Hooper from getting turnover ball which they are both very good at. But their forward attack was able to make metres because of bodies in motion.

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        Anyway, not a lot of excitement over selections is there really, it kind of feels like another AB/Wallaby test but without much on it. Realistically the Boks got RC tied up, Bled is tied up, so we getting a trot in the park??

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        • BonesB Bones

          Holland paying the price for his tendency to ruck watch when the heat comes on, instead of getting eyes up when realigning? Aussie caught him out easy with one of their tries and I seem to recall this happening before too.

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          @Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

          Holland paying the price for his tendency to ruck watch when the heat comes on, instead of getting eyes up when realigning? Aussie caught him out easy with one of their tries and I seem to recall this happening before too.

          Happened against France too.

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          • Dan54D Dan54

            Anyway, not a lot of excitement over selections is there really, it kind of feels like another AB/Wallaby test but without much on it. Realistically the Boks got RC tied up, Bled is tied up, so we getting a trot in the park??

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            @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

            Anyway, not a lot of excitement over selections is there really, it kind of feels like another AB/Wallaby test but without much on it. Realistically the Boks got RC tied up, Bled is tied up, so we getting a trot in the park??

            I still hold out some hope that the Boks have been hanging out at London pubs all week and the Argies pull out a massive effort to scrape a win.

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            • Dan54D Dan54

              Anyway, not a lot of excitement over selections is there really, it kind of feels like another AB/Wallaby test but without much on it. Realistically the Boks got RC tied up, Bled is tied up, so we getting a trot in the park??

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              @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

              Anyway, not a lot of excitement over selections is there really, it kind of feels like another AB/Wallaby test but without much on it. Realistically the Boks got RC tied up, Bled is tied up, so we getting a trot in the park??

              Well they still have to win otherwise they would have a 50% record in RC for the second year in a row. If they win this one they can claim a small improvement from last year with 66.7% win record this year and 58% win record in RC matches for Combover's regime overall.

              How good does 58% look? So much better than 50%.

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                Not starting Holland is a mistake.
                Not developing Love is a mistake.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                  Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half

                  Who both play at the Waratahs, it should be noted. Maybe that's a cohesion thing?

                  Definitely. Now that winning the Bledisloe is out of the equation, I think it’s good that Schmidt is giving another 10 test experience.

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                  @NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                  Cobber is giving the young fella a start at flyhalf and gone back to an experienced hand to start at scrum half

                  Who both play at the Waratahs, it should be noted. Maybe that's a cohesion thing?

                  Definitely. Now that winning the Bledisloe is out of the equation, I think it’s good that Schmidt is giving another 10 test experience.

                  Arguably the same could be said for NZ, although happy for DMac is it maybe an opportunity for Ruben missed?

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                  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                    Not starting Holland is a mistake.
                    Not developing Love is a mistake.

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                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                    Not starting Holland is a mistake.
                    Not developing Love is a mistake.

                    Hollands had some stinking moments around the ruck defensively. He’s definitely the fourth best lock so not sure why it’s a mistake? Barrett gets his starting position back, and quite rightly after the complete lack of aggression last week. Va’ai is still the form lock despite a recent dip. Patty T provides more impact off the bench.

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                    • Landers92L Landers92

                      Had to ask if I was having my leg pulled… hope I’m not so apologies in advance if it isn’t correct. Usual contact so have no reason to believe it isn’t correct. Maybe I’m just a little surprised due to a certain name on the wing(which should bring some interesting opinions).

                      1. Roigard
                      2. Dmac
                      3. Faingaʻanuku
                      4. J. Barrett
                      5. Tupaea
                      6. L. Carter
                      7. Jordan

                      Bench
                      21. Ratima
                      22. Ioane
                      23. Love

                      Have at it!

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                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                      Had to ask if I was having my leg pulled… hope I’m not so apologies in advance if it isn’t correct. Usual contact so have no reason to believe it isn’t correct. Maybe I’m just a little surprised due to a certain name on the wing(which should bring some interesting opinions).

                      1. Roigard
                      2. Dmac
                      3. Faingaʻanuku
                      4. J. Barrett
                      5. Tupaea
                      6. L. Carter
                      7. Jordan

                      Bench
                      21. Ratima
                      22. Ioane
                      23. Love

                      Have at it!

                      Well done in that sauce, as someone who previously had access to as such, great to see the accuracy. Hoping you get the respect of confidentiality in the future

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                        Anyway, not a lot of excitement over selections is there really, it kind of feels like another AB/Wallaby test but without much on it. Realistically the Boks got RC tied up, Bled is tied up, so we getting a trot in the park??

                        I still hold out some hope that the Boks have been hanging out at London pubs all week and the Argies pull out a massive effort to scrape a win.

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                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                        Anyway, not a lot of excitement over selections is there really, it kind of feels like another AB/Wallaby test but without much on it. Realistically the Boks got RC tied up, Bled is tied up, so we getting a trot in the park??

                        I still hold out some hope that the Boks have been hanging out at London pubs all week and the Argies pull out a massive effort to scrape a win.

                        I still hold out hope that Argentina win 9-nil after the Wallabies romp to a 39-12 win.

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                          Is Bell injured or dropped?

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                            But I'll settle for 2nd place.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              Is Bell injured or dropped?

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                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                              Is Bell injured or dropped?

                              Resting a rib injury I'm told

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                              • jimmybJ jimmyb

                                @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                                Not starting Holland is a mistake.
                                Not developing Love is a mistake.

                                Hollands had some stinking moments around the ruck defensively. He’s definitely the fourth best lock so not sure why it’s a mistake? Barrett gets his starting position back, and quite rightly after the complete lack of aggression last week. Va’ai is still the form lock despite a recent dip. Patty T provides more impact off the bench.

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                                @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                                @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                                Not starting Holland is a mistake.
                                Not developing Love is a mistake.

                                Hollands had some stinking moments around the ruck defensively. He’s definitely the fourth best lock so not sure why it’s a mistake? Barrett gets his starting position back, and quite rightly after the complete lack of aggression last week. Va’ai is still the form lock despite a recent dip. Patty T provides more impact off the bench.

                                I get that you don't like the guy, and yes he has some rough edges with defensive alignment in his first international season - but his work-rate is excellent and I think he is clearly our best lineout lock, which is a pretty important part of the game.

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                                  @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                                  Not starting Holland is a mistake.
                                  Not developing Love is a mistake.

                                  Hollands had some stinking moments around the ruck defensively. He’s definitely the fourth best lock so not sure why it’s a mistake? Barrett gets his starting position back, and quite rightly after the complete lack of aggression last week. Va’ai is still the form lock despite a recent dip. Patty T provides more impact off the bench.

                                  I get that you don't like the guy, and yes he has some rough edges with defensive alignment in his first international season - but his work-rate is excellent and I think he is clearly our best lineout lock, which is a pretty important part of the game.

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                                  @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                                  @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                                  Not starting Holland is a mistake.
                                  Not developing Love is a mistake.

                                  Hollands had some stinking moments around the ruck defensively. He’s definitely the fourth best lock so not sure why it’s a mistake? Barrett gets his starting position back, and quite rightly after the complete lack of aggression last week. Va’ai is still the form lock despite a recent dip. Patty T provides more impact off the bench.

                                  I get that you don't like the guy, and yes he has some rough edges with defensive alignment in his first international season - but his work-rate is excellent and I think he is clearly our best lineout lock, which is a pretty important part of the game.

                                  I really like the guy and really want him to succeed, so that’s absolutely not true. But if you make the same mistake four times, three weeks in a row, any player should sit out for a few games to fix it.

                                  Reality is that we have three v good locks when on form, all of whom have plenty of test match rugby left and need the game time.

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                                    Lakai at least hit some rucks and tackled with intent last week. Sititi has been extremely poor in that regard this season.

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      I don’t mind Lakai being selected because I think he will play better than what we’ve seen from Sititi this year.

                                      But it comes back to the fact that Ardie, Lakai and Sititi should be fighting out for two position - starting 7 and bench 7/8 cover.

                                      LJ not considered. He’s not injured, but I wonder whether he’s at the match fitness levels yet?

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                                      LJ not considered. He’s not injured, but I wonder whether he’s at the match fitness levels yet?

                                      Begs the question why the fuck he is in the squad for TRC?

                                      Taking up a spot that could go to another loosie

                                      The likes of Lio Willie and Papalii must be thinking wtf

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                                      • NTAN NTA

                                        Wallaby side:
                                        1 Slipper
                                        2 Pollard
                                        3 AAA
                                        4 Frost
                                        5 Skelton
                                        6 Hooper
                                        7 McReight
                                        8 Wilson (c)
                                        9 Gordon
                                        10 Edmed
                                        11 Daugunu
                                        12 Ikitau
                                        13 JAS
                                        14 Potter
                                        15 Jorgensen

                                        16 Nasser
                                        17 Robertson
                                        18 Tupou
                                        19 Williams
                                        20 Valetini
                                        21 Lonergan
                                        22 JOC
                                        23 Flook

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                                        @NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

                                        6 Hooper

                                        Size on the flanks ... d'oh

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                                          Wallaby side:
                                          1 Slipper
                                          2 Pollard
                                          3 AAA
                                          4 Frost
                                          5 Skelton
                                          6 Hooper
                                          7 McReight
                                          8 Wilson (c)
                                          9 Gordon
                                          10 Edmed
                                          11 Daugunu
                                          12 Ikitau
                                          13 JAS
                                          14 Potter
                                          15 Jorgensen

                                          16 Nasser
                                          17 Robertson
                                          18 Tupou
                                          19 Williams
                                          20 Valetini
                                          21 Lonergan
                                          22 JOC
                                          23 Flook

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                                          @NTA is Bell injured?

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