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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    I think you have listed the most likely duos in the appropriate (descending) order for likelihood of selection

    I would like all of them. Joseph (head coach), Brown, Cotter as the main coaches. Schmidt as a high performance manager who joins later working with SR sides and the ABs.

    Thinking about this a bit more and trying to get them, plus Rennie, all involved. Would that look something like the following?

    Head Coach: Jamie Joseph
    Attack Coach: Tony Brown
    Defence Coach: Dave Rennie
    Forwards/Set Piece: Vern Cotter
    Technical/Game Management Advisor: Joe Schmidt

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    replied to ShaquilleOatmeal last edited by
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    @ShaquilleOatmeal

    Might look at Greg Feek for scrum coach.

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    @Jet

    Is it fair to say Jamie Joseph was a bit of a grub as a player?

    Fuck yeah.
    Surprised he's even in the coaching game.

    Dunno how the sooky/huggy 21stC types handle him.
    Fuck . . . they didn't like Razor and he was a "culture" coach.

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    replied to george33 last edited by
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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus Vern Cotter gets things moving specifically the pack .

    So, you are confident Tony Brown will join Joseph.
    Any good oil on who else Joseph would bring in?

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2026:

    @george33 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus Vern Cotter gets things moving specifically the pack .

    So, you are confident Tony Brown will join Joseph.
    Any good oil on who else Joseph would bring in?

    David Kidwell was mentioned, maybe as a defensive coach?

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    @Godder

    Oh sorry . . . I made a "trajectory" post before I read this one.
    Spot on.

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    replied to ShaquilleOatmeal last edited by
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    @ShaquilleOatmeal we can only dream about a team like that.

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    Kirk's pretty much confirmed how this went down. It was not a player revolt. The board wasn't happy with the review, and clearly didn't rate the response from Razor to the point they moved him on. Effective governance in action.

    Sad for Razor, I hoped he'd bring more to the table. Just seemed out of sorts in the AB environment and never really seemed to stamp his mark on the team in a positive way.

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  • TimT Away
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    Think one of the Cantabs on here said that Robertson had a falling out with Brad Mooar? Any other coaches he had major problems with? Seems we are up to three now.

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    replied to taniwharugby last edited by Duluth
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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    @ShaquilleOatmeal we can only dream about a team like that.

    I like the idea of trying to create something similar to the cartel

    I'm still amazed that NZR allowed us to get into a situation where we had a head coach surrounded by 'yes men' and a selection panel where everyone comes from the same franchise

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    @ShaquilleOatmeal we can only dream about a team like that.

    I like the idea of trying to create something similar to the cartel

    I'm still amazed that NZR allowed us to get into a situation where we had a head coach surrounded by 'yes men' and a selection panel where everyone comes from the same franchise

    I blame Robinson

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    @ShaquilleOatmeal we can only dream about a team like that.

    I like the idea of trying to create something similar to the cartel

    I'm still amazed that NZR allowed us to get into a situation where we had a head coach surrounded by 'yes men' and a selection panel where everyone comes from the same franchise

    I fear that we have lost a number of potentially very good test players because of this.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2026:

    Think one of the Cantabs on here said that Robertson had a falling out with Brad Mooar? Any other coaches he had major problems with? Seems we are up to three now.

    May have some more juicy chat around another coach. Just waiting for confirmation on finer details and if they are sure it’s true I’ll share.

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    replied to Victor Meldrew last edited by
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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks 2026:

    another random thought I just had - Razor decided he didn't need Gilbert Enoka

    Probably the other way round. Enoka made it pretty clear in Foster's book his concerns with the way Robertson behaved - was pretty scathing IIRC.

    my new years resolution to read more rather than doom scrolling isn't going well.. I'm only on page 21.. will skip ahead! intriguing!

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    Head Coach: Jamie Joseph
    Attack Coach: Tony Brown
    Defence Coach: Dave Rennie
    Forwards/Set Piece: Vern Cotter
    Technical/Game Management Advisor: Joe Schmidt

    That's the ideal set-up IMO. Will probably need a skills & scrum coach also.

    And a good mental skills coach seeing how fragile some are.

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    @hikastags said in All Blacks 2026:

    And a good mental skills coach seeing how fragile some are.

    Hmm, a tall glass of harden the fuck up juice would be good.

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    GP quoted

    “Robertson had previously told me – and many others in the rugby fraternity – he operated as the culture coach, something I’d written several times before that week in Cardiff.
    But on the previous occasions I had written that, it was packaged as part of a high-performance rejig that Robertson had sold to the All Blacks appointment committee when he interviewed for the job in early-2023.”

    How the fuck could you buy that.

    That appointment committee should be lined up and shot.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/all-blacks-winners-and-losers-from-scott-robertsons-shock-coaching-exit-opinion/premium/SFY72FCNLZEPZPZP6ECGSDME6Q/

    WINNER: Razor’s rejects

    It’s become very clear that some players just did not gel with what the Robertson regime was doing.

    The likes of Rieko Ioane and Dalton Papali’i both started 2024 as All Blacks regulars, but made way as Robertson’s tenure wore on.

    Now with a fresh start, though, the door is open for players to work their way back into contention.

    Papali’i in particular is understood to have been very impressive – on and off the field – for the All Blacks XV last year.

    Day of the Dalton.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2026:

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/all-blacks-winners-and-losers-from-scott-robertsons-shock-coaching-exit-opinion/premium/SFY72FCNLZEPZPZP6ECGSDME6Q/

    WINNER: Razor’s rejects

    It’s become very clear that some players just did not gel with what the Robertson regime was doing.

    The likes of Rieko Ioane and Dalton Papali’i both started 2024 as All Blacks regulars, but made way as Robertson’s tenure wore on.

    Now with a fresh start, though, the door is open for players to work their way back into contention.

    Papali’i in particular is understood to have been very impressive – on and off the field – for the All Blacks XV last year.

    Day of the Dalton.

    Just don't make him captain. An important part of unification will be picking someone the senior players will support unanimously

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Frank last edited by
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    @Frank not sure it is sold any more, not in this day of fragile egos and mental health.

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