All Blacks 2026
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@Unite said in All Blacks 2026:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2026:
@mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:
On the Savea thing; I think his membership of the PI AB group had maybe more influence on the course of events in the last few days, than his membership of the senior player AB group
He would be the unquestioned leader of the PI group.
Some one here posted some inside info here that the PIs as a group were pissed off.
That was a red flag for me.
I'd say Savea and Mealamu had a serious convo this week.When I heard that the PIs as a group were pissed; I considered it all over for Razor.
It's one of the challenges that has been flagged up here - on the pitch Ardie didnt get it done in 2025 but off the pitch he is more powerful than ever heading into 2026.
I don't see how an incoming coach is gonna feel he can drop him if that is what is best for the team because if he loses Ardies support and buy in that is gonna undermine his support from the wider playing group. Ardie is possibly the most powerful AB player ever since he has influence throughout the squad but also Mealamus ear.
It's not something I would personally want to manage.
I thought I heard Kirk being asked about complaints or issues being raised by players directly. He mentioned having conversations with various players at different times, one was Ardie he said before the Scotland Test, didn’t he say Ardie told him he was really tired and had had a big work load? Maybe Ardie didn’t want to be picked every game and play 80mins every Test?
Ardie burnt a lot of matches in Super carrying his team - didn't see that form in the AB's.. passion not the same under razor?
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I actually just remembered something that Goldie Wilson said on Breakdown. He hopes we go back to traditional All Black rugby, as we have drifted away from it.
Anyway, I just waiting to see who get's the gig now. I am a JJ fan, and had wanted him for sometime , just a feeling I have, no great knowledge or anything. And as much as anything , if he gets it who will he get in his group, -
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
I actually just remembered something that Goldie Wilson said on Breakdown. He hopes we go back to traditional All Black rugby, as we have drifted away from it.
Anyway, I just waiting to see who get's the gig now. I am a JJ fan, and had wanted him for sometime , just a feeling I have, no great knowledge or anything. And as much as anything , if he gets it who will he get in his group,Is it fair to say Jamie Joseph was a bit of a grub as a player?
Remember a bit of biff from him against the English, not that I'll hold that against him.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
Ok I got question for posters going forward this year. We have opinions on BB , Ardie etc being in team. If they are still picked by new coach, are you still going to get behind them, or are you perhaps going to admit that they should be there? Or are we smarter than even another AB coach? Remembering they pick players for how they want team to play, and with all the info on them, not from watching a bit on tv (with just a few angles) and occasional trip to a game. I will be interested to see responses from whatever players etc are picked.
purely depends on how they play, if they come out and, even with their weakness due to age largely, play more cohesively with the rest of the team then awesome, a coach was finally been able to work out how to use them....if theyre doing the same shit as weve seen under fozzie and razor i'll have to conclude theyre lose units that cant be coached and need to go
I say this because i just can not accept a new coach will want to try the same stuff again...we've seen this chaotic attack from anywhere, structure for only 2 phases then anything goes game plan from hansen when it worked (due to the cattle we had)....and then fozzie when it didnt work because our best cattle started to age ore retired....and now razor
the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result
I think they need to ride pine or sit in the stands early on in the next coaches tenure, if only to serve as a line in the sand to them and others.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:
Yep, and you have to wonder whether player loyalty to Foster meant there was a bit of angst at him being treated badly, which easily translates into anti-Robertson feeling when things aren't going well. Combine that with factions within the team and shit can go south quick.
Yep. Foster def. to blame for Robertson's departure.......
Yup that is too long a bow to draw...
I actually thought Vic was being funny....
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
I actually just remembered something that Goldie Wilson said on Breakdown. He hopes we go back to traditional All Black rugby, as we have drifted away from it.
Anyway, I just waiting to see who get's the gig now. I am a JJ fan, and had wanted him for sometime , just a feeling I have, no great knowledge or anything. And as much as anything , if he gets it who will he get in his group,Is it fair to say Jamie Joseph was a bit of a grub as a player?
Remember a bit of biff from him against the English, not that I'll hold that against him.
He was a grub as I recall
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2026:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
Why wasn't he concerned in 2022 when Foster was dragging the team down to this level?
He was. Difference is Foster listened to his players and engaged with them. BB has spoken openly about it.
I spent the best part of a week in Tokyo RWC at same hotel as ABs. Very clear that Shag and Fossie were pally with vast bulk of players.
this was one of the big issues Razor had with Leon - thought he was too close to the players
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My expectations for the next coaching team are essentially the same as they were for Razor. Usher in a breath of fresh air in terms of selection. Get back to basics. Now the biggest job will be to mend fences and build unity as quickly as possible
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another random thought I just had - Razor decided he didn't need Gilbert Enoka
who was fulfilling that role within the team? Sounds like that would have been useful in this situation with so many player concerns - bit of a buffer between players and coaching staff - help actually articulate the issues etc
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
I actually just remembered something that Goldie Wilson said on Breakdown. He hopes we go back to traditional All Black rugby, as we have drifted away from it.
Anyway, I just waiting to see who get's the gig now. I am a JJ fan, and had wanted him for sometime , just a feeling I have, no great knowledge or anything. And as much as anything , if he gets it who will he get in his group,Is it fair to say Jamie Joseph was a bit of a grub as a player?
Remember a bit of biff from him against the English, not that I'll hold that against him.
He was a grub as I recall
Thats what we need.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
My expectations for the next coaching team are essentially the same as they were for Razor. Usher in a breath of fresh air in terms of selection. Get back to basics. Now the biggest job will be to mend fences and build unity as quickly as possible
Some fast fuckers on the wings, a lad with a massive boot at the back.
And a load of jagged elbowed toe rags in jerseys 1-8.
Shaving forbidden and black boots mandatory.
I want some ugly bastards in the team. We are too good looking.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
I actually just remembered something that Goldie Wilson said on Breakdown. He hopes we go back to traditional All Black rugby, as we have drifted away from it.
Anyway, I just waiting to see who get's the gig now. I am a JJ fan, and had wanted him for sometime , just a feeling I have, no great knowledge or anything. And as much as anything , if he gets it who will he get in his group,Is it fair to say Jamie Joseph was a bit of a grub as a player?
Remember a bit of biff from him against the English, not that I'll hold that against him.
He was a grub as I recall
Thats what we need.
not going to condone being a grub in the current age....but it was annoying, when the Bokke get cards its because theyve put the fear of god in someone with a earth shattering tackle and might have been a bit late or slipped up...but the move will have been snubbed out and now everyone is worried theyre next....we have our captain just dropping his shoulder into guy laying prone in a ruck...just pissing everyone off
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
I actually just remembered something that Goldie Wilson said on Breakdown. He hopes we go back to traditional All Black rugby, as we have drifted away from it.
Anyway, I just waiting to see who get's the gig now. I am a JJ fan, and had wanted him for sometime , just a feeling I have, no great knowledge or anything. And as much as anything , if he gets it who will he get in his group,Is it fair to say Jamie Joseph was a bit of a grub as a player?
Remember a bit of biff from him against the English, not that I'll hold that against him.
He was a grub as I recall
Thats what we need.
not going to condone being a grub in the current age....but it was annoying, when the Bokke get cards its because theyve put the fear of god in someone with a earth shattering tackle and might have been a bit late or slipped up...but the move will have been snubbed out and now everyone is worried theyre next....we have our captain just dropping his shoulder into guy laying prone in a ruck...just pissing everyone off
We need some lads who relish rib tickling as much if not more than having the pill.
Kaino, Pieter Steph, Jerry Collins esque.
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@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks 2026:
nother random thought I just had - Razor decided he didn't need Gilbert Enoka
was that the case, or did he just move on?
Def think there is a place for what he does in a professional team, bridge that gap between physical and mental, and as you say, could have been the conduit to help Razor avoid the issues that have bought his downfall?
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
I actually just remembered something that Goldie Wilson said on Breakdown. He hopes we go back to traditional All Black rugby, as we have drifted away from it.
Anyway, I just waiting to see who get's the gig now. I am a JJ fan, and had wanted him for sometime , just a feeling I have, no great knowledge or anything. And as much as anything , if he gets it who will he get in his group,Is it fair to say Jamie Joseph was a bit of a grub as a player?
Remember a bit of biff from him against the English, not that I'll hold that against him.
He was a grub as I recall
Thats what we need.
Rassie wasnt exactly mr gentle as a player
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks 2026:
nother random thought I just had - Razor decided he didn't need Gilbert Enoka
was that the case, or did he just move on?
Def think there is a place for what he does in a professional team, bridge that gap between physical and mental, and as you say, could have been the conduit to help Razor avoid the issues that have bought his downfall?
More than once comments were made on the thread that Razor had surrounded himself with yes men. It now appears he was the yes man and Hansen was the power behind the throne. Not having anyone to challenge him was a mistake. Critical thinkingand different points of view are important
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@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks 2026:
another random thought I just had - Razor decided he didn't need Gilbert Enoka
Probably the other way round. Enoka made it pretty clear in Foster's book his concerns with the way Robertson behaved - was pretty scathing IIRC.
