All Blacks 2026
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
You can’t believe the venom against Ardie and the Barretts? Their heads should be next to Robertsons
As Kirk made clear, 20 players gave their feedback on the team culture - not just Ardie and the Barretts and the Board made their decision and not the players
If a players like Ardie and Papili want to have nothing to do with the team as the culture is so bad, that's their decision, but it doesn't reflect well on the head coach.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
You can’t believe the venom against Ardie and the Barretts? Their heads should be next to Robertsons
As Kirk made clear, 20 players gave their feedback on the team culture - not just Ardie and the Barretts and the Board made their decision and not the players
If a players like Ardie and Papili want to have nothing to do with the team as the culture is so bad, that's their decision, but it doesn't reflect well on the head coach.
And if a guy like BB was scathing despite being picked to start every game it's not ego, he's concerned for the sake of the team
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Mealamu “gets it”.
Delighted he was involved.
This is the bloke who sent Dan Carter and Richie McCaw back to their rooms to get proper clobber after turning up to the hotel breakfast buffet slovenly attired.
Now get rid of the multi coloured boots, social media and boy band haircuts.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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@tubbyj Completely different scenario. The players had faith in Foster to get the best out of them, he respected them and earned their loyalty.
If 25% of what we hear is true, Robertson was the opposite and thought dealing with stuff about player concerns was above him.
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
Why wasn't he concerned in 2022 when Foster was dragging the team down to this level?
He was. Difference is Foster listened to his players and engaged with them. BB has spoken openly about it.
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
Which is why you don't listen to the players on who should be coach. Fair enough fire Robertson on the results but not Ardie Saveas feels
Which, as Kirk has made clear, what happened.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
Why wasn't he concerned in 2022 when Foster was dragging the team down to this level?
He was. Difference is Foster listened to his players and engaged with them. BB has spoken openly about it.
Once again what difference did that make? We got thrashed at Twickenham by the Boks, lost to Argentina at home, lost our first RWC pool game and I don't see the WC in our trophy cabinet.
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
Which is why you don't listen to the players on who should be coach. Fair enough fire Robertson on the results but not Ardie Saveas feels
When asked in the presser what he thought as a fan Kirk touched on things like inconsistency, slumps in the 3rd quarters of games and discipline.
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
Which is why you don't listen to the players on who should be coach. Fair enough fire Robertson on the results but not Ardie Saveas feels
It's not feels, it's honest feedback.
Saying that, I hope Ardie is relegated to an impact player.
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
Why wasn't he concerned in 2022 when Foster was dragging the team down to this level?
He was. Difference is Foster listened to his players and engaged with them. BB has spoken openly about it.
Once again what difference did that make? We got thrashed at Twickenham by the Boks, lost to Argentina at home, lost our first RWC pool game and I don't see the WC in our trophy cabinet.
Are you saying losing the dressing room and support staff is OK as the previous bloke didn't have a 100% record?
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
No I am saying that Ardie should have been just as damning of Foster not saying "hes my coach and I have his back" if he was consistent and not one of the single biggest problems in the team culture himself.
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Maybe because Ardie wasn't ignored by the Head Coach when he had problems/concerns
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
Which is why you don't listen to the players on who should be coach. Fair enough fire Robertson on the results but not Ardie Saveas feels
You can't have a review and not get the feedback of a key component of the team, that's just silly.
The decision was made on the entirety of the review, not just on the player's feedback.
