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    i want a coach the firmly believe in the idiom a champion team will always beat a team of champions

    too long we've picked the best individual players and then slotted people in around them rather than the best combinations

    i would have no problem with a whole front row being picked form the same super team even if they were the second and fouth best probs individually....as long as theyre the best front row...same with loose forward trio, centre pairing and probably 9/10

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    i want a coach the firmly believe in the idiom a champion team will always beat a team of champions

    too long we've picked the best individual players and then slotted people in around them rather than the best combinations

    i would have no problem with a whole front row being picked form the same super team even if they were the second and fouth best probs individually....as long as theyre the best front row...same with loose forward trio, centre pairing and probably 9/10

    Didn't really think our props are the problem! Loosies, 10, midfield, maybe 15...

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    @nostrildamus didn't mean so much they were a problem, just an example of players that need to work well with each other

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus didn't mean so much they were a problem, just an example of players that need to work well with each other

    Fair enough! I agree with you on players! Might be good to get some non-Crusaders coaches though..

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    i want a coach the firmly believe in the idiom a champion team will always beat a team of champions

    too long we've picked the best individual players and then slotted people in around them rather than the best combinations

    i would have no problem with a whole front row being picked form the same super team even if they were the second and fouth best probs individually....as long as theyre the best front row...same with loose forward trio, centre pairing and probably 9/10

    Didn't really think our props are the problem! Loosies, 10, midfield, maybe 15...

    Going back, our tight 5 was a point of difference for years to decades. Their ability to scrum and work in the tight, but then take passes, hold defenders and throw good balls was above others in the game. I reckon we've gone backwards there - certainly relative to others.

    Props aren't a 'problem' area but the carrying is quite weak at times and work rate doesn't seem to be what it could be.

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    I am not sure I can believe Joseph that NZR have not been talking to him. I hope they are either seeking out candidates or will have the selection process in place quickly.

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2026:

    Props aren't a 'problem' area but the carrying is quite weak at times and work rate doesn't seem to be what it could be.

    Yup that is fair. Newell improved I thought but that was from a tickle him and watch him flop base...

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    I'm also wondering if NZR will consider a very short-term coach for the next few months. Until the process starts and finishes.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    I am not sure I can believe Joseph that NZR have not been talking to him. I hope they are either seeking out candidates or will have the selection process in place quickly.

    i remember having this discussion i think when Fozzie got the gig.....and being surprised they just went to the market rather than approaching people directly (maybe they did informally but officially at least)....is NZR too naïve? im not sure other major sporting organisations would post it on Seek and cross their fingers

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    I'm also wondering if NZR will consider a very short-term coach for the next few months. Until the process starts and finishes.

    They need someone who can at least run the camps they'd planned. Just basic strength and conditioning stuff

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    what will be interesting this Super season is some of those players people had been critical of and how they played, how they respond knowing they will need to impress a new coach, not to mention the usual new crew putting thier hands up.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    I am not sure I can believe Joseph that NZR have not been talking to him. I hope they are either seeking out candidates or will have the selection process in place quickly.

    i remember having this discussion i think when Fozzie got the gig.....and being surprised they just went to the market rather than approaching people directly (maybe they did informally but officially at least)....is NZR too naïve? im not sure other major sporting organisations would post it on Seek and cross their fingers

    I agree that the NZRU doesn't need to make the process "open". They need to draw up a list of potential candidates and contact them asap to see if they are interested

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    @Kiwiwomble I'm going to do some digging today see if I can even get a possible name or 2 .Have sent out messages but nothing yet.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    I am not sure I can believe Joseph that NZR have not been talking to him. I hope they are either seeking out candidates or will have the selection process in place quickly.

    i remember having this discussion i think when Fozzie got the gig.....and being surprised they just went to the market rather than approaching people directly (maybe they did informally but officially at least)....is NZR too naïve? im not sure other major sporting organisations would post it on Seek and cross their fingers

    I agree that the NZRU doesn't need to make the process "open". They need to draw up a list of potential candidates and contact them asap to see if they are interested

    in reality they can probably name everyone they would even consider for the role....so why not approach them

    i remember saying exactly this...the is exactly 0% change there is a international standard coach out there they dont know about....so whats the point"

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    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2026:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

    To make it very clear, Robertson needed to go. But, there is no way in hell this team is suddenly going to turn it around in 12 months. No way. Don’t have the cattle, don’t have the skills. After all, beating the ABs last year was literally down to kicking contestable kicks. At the end of the year we could likely be looking at:

    1. First loss at our fancy new Stadium to what will be a 1st string French team
    2. First loss at Eden park in how every many years (against Ireland)
    3. Potentially the Bledisloe gone (least likely)
    4. How much are Scotland fancying their chances on that first Nh game?

    Strap yourself in guys. This could get seriously ugly

    One thing I just don't buy is that we don't have the cattle. We do. It's about finding ways to get the best out of this cattle.

    It's acceptable to say a side like the Highlanders don't have the cattle, but I don't accept for one second that this AB side doesn't have the cattle. It's a cop out.

    The skills? Under the previous regime, yes, some of the skills in certain areas were lacking, but I do put some of that down to the coaching team.

    And some down to players reclining form some due to miles on the clock.

    Yup I can accept that. I also alluded to a lot of them falling into bad habits towards the end of last year, essentially doing what they want. But lack of cattle? Absolutely not, don't agree with that at all.

    I guess the results will prove wether we have the cattle or not.
    The next 2 years are going to be interesting,

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    i want a coach the firmly believe in the idiom a champion team will always beat a team of champions

    too long we've picked the best individual players and then slotted people in around them rather than the best combinations

    i would have no problem with a whole front row being picked form the same super team even if they were the second and fouth best probs individually....as long as theyre the best front row...same with loose forward trio, centre pairing and probably 9/10

    agreed - also a coach that is able to pick players, bolters even, and they actually perform better and improve in the All Blacks environment (better tactics, coaching etc). Its been a while since we've had that. Nonu is the best example - had some average Super Rugby campaigns - but was always a super star for the ABs.

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    I’ll say this:

    Tony Brown and Jamie Joseph definitely had coffee in public. That’s a concious decision that they wanted to be seen together - or else they’d have just gone to one another’s properties.

    The next working day they then brief the EXACT SAME THING.

    These guys aren’t stupid… Brown says he doesn’t have a get out clause, but that also doesn’t mean he can’t get out.

    This is all part of the games and negotiation. Joseph is clearly the preferred candidate, and he will play hardball - as he should.

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    @frugby

    I like the theory very much, but it could just be really fucking good coffee.

    I think Brown's points are pretty fair, at this stage NZRU probably needs to go talk with 2-3 people then quietly choose one.

    The whole public showdown between candidates is something I'm sure candidates hate as well. It's unnecessary.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2026:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2026:

    @george33 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Chris find that hard to believe.
    NZR will have there next group lined up if not signed up who ever it maybe.
    Time is running out fast.

    I think Brown would know, all these reported sightings of Joseph and Brown together I am sure they would talked about it
    Why would he say that if he didn't think it..

    Here in Australia, in afl and nrl , when players and coaches are questioned on contracts, you take their answers with a grain of salt .
    They are like politicians.

    Yes best to say nothing but he has said a fair bit.which he didn't need to but knowing Brown he is an honest person.

    The problem is , even if he’s going to take the job , he can’t say that yet,
    But the fact he mentioned he is contracted probably indicates he can’t take it even if he wanted to .
    I suspect there is fibs no one has spoken to him though , find that part hard to believe.

    I don't think anyone will run around talking to assistant coaches as a priority.
    I not panic stricked about if we have JJ or anyone without Brown as assistant.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @frugby

    I like the theory very much, but it could just be really fucking good coffee.

    I think Brown's points are pretty fair, at this stage NZRU probably needs to go talk with 2-3 people then quietly choose one.

    The whole public showdown between candidates is something I'm sure candidates hate as well. It's unnecessary.

    or they thought it would be a good laugh to wind up the press

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