All Blacks - New Coach Selection
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@frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
I could envisage Rennie working under Joseph, not sure I could envisage the reverse.
Didn't Joseph briefly work beside Rennie with Wellington in early 2000's?
I think he was WRFU U20s / development teams coach while Rennie was Lions head coach & might've been a Lions resource coach or assistant coach under Rennie also?
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@restofit said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Yes - Leon and Jamie are cousins & were also sighted having coffee together prior to NZR's desion to go with Razor over Jamie for HC in March 2023, so I assume Leon was always going to feature in Jamie's setup regardless.
I did not know!
https://northandsouth.co.nz/2021/01/21/maori-rugby/
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@Tim said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/podcasts/rugby-direct/rugby-direct-episode-198/
Listening to that, both commentators prefer Dave Rennie.
Their reasoning, superior ability to bring team together in short space of time.
Slightly better body of work. Certain Wallabies were very unhappy with him being replaced by Eddie Jones.Joesph is a good hard man but has gone through a lot of assistants (Tom Donnelly, Kendrick Lynn, Dave Dillon and others) and he wasnt very popular with the Japanese players towards the end according to Victor Matfield. They mention perhaps this is what the ABs need, but overall view it as a potential red flag. Tony Brown not being there with JJ is a big hit. All of JJ's big success has come with him.
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@Frank said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Tim said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/podcasts/rugby-direct/rugby-direct-episode-198/
Listening to that, both commentators prefer Dave Rennie.
Their reasoning, superior ability to bring team together in short space of time.
Slightly better body of work. Certain Wallabies were very unhappy with him being replaced by Eddire Jones.Joesph is a good hard man but has gone through a lot of assistants and he wasnt very popular with the Japanese players towards the end. They mention perhaps this is what the ABs need, but overall view it as a potential red flag.
Rennie as HC and JJ as assistant would be good. JJ can hopefully learn a bit from Rennie and take that with him when he eventually takes over with TB
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Just shitty timing. But what the fuck was he doing leaving for the Reds anyway? After winning SR with the Blues his job must have been secure?
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Seems like he felt “job done” at the Blues and was likely to leave after this season anyway .
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@canefan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
But what the fuck was he doing leaving for the Reds anyway?
Thinkin the same, side ways move, at best.
If they wanted him NZR would have had him; just had to figure what the price of breaking his "word" would have been.
Saw Reds play in atrial on the weekend.
About 70 or 80 players got a run in the game!
Fun game, perfect conditions.
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@Tim said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/podcasts/rugby-direct/rugby-direct-episode-198/
Robertson applying for the Reds job was an interesting tidbit.
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@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Seems like he felt “job done” at the Blues and was likely to leave after this season anyway .
Adds credence to the idea that Razor performed badly during the review and that's what cost him his job, the move was clearly not premeditated because a bunch of coaches have been caught out
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@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Tim Must have been in the timeframe when Razor knew but everyone else didn’t. Would be a logical move - just get over and live on the Gold Coast. Napier also said he was paid out at least a year.
And maybe place him in the mix for future Wallabies coaching role/s?
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@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Tim Must have been in the timeframe when Razor knew but everyone else didn’t. Would be a logical move - just get over and live on the Gold Coast. Napier also said he was paid out at least a year.
That seems like such a short window though? Allegedly the meeting was on the Monday and it was announced on the Thursday I thought?
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@canefan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Just shitty timing. But what the fuck was he doing leaving for the Reds anyway? After winning SR with the Blues his job must have been secure?
could be as simple as better pay and get to live in queensland...and maybe leave on a resent high
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Gregor Paul...pay walled
Now that New Zealand Rugby has clarified the criteria and process for recruiting a new All Blacks head coach, and two promising candidates have already ruled themselves out, the question is not whether a choice has to be made between Jamie Joseph and Dave Rennie, but whether both
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@hikastags said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Interesting suggestion of Stephen Larkham as an assistant coach for the ABs in here.
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@Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@hikastags said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Interesting suggestion of Stephen Larkham as an assistant coach for the ABs in here.
He's done a pretty good job at the Brumbies IMO.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@hikastags said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Interesting suggestion of Stephen Larkham as an assistant coach for the ABs in here.
He's done a pretty good job at the Brumbies IMO.
A team packed with superstars whose only sure thing is the canes in Canberra. I'm far from convinced. Something about him screams no for me.... and I'm sure NZR will take that into account.
