@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2026:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2026:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@KiwiMurph us Highlanders fans might question the "available immediately" bit
He could do both in 2026
See Deans 2008 and Kiss 2026
Kiss will be getting help from Schmidt until he leaves. I doubt Robertson would be so obliging.
I doubt Robertson would be asked !
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
Will Razor's ego allow him to stay if NZR guy his team and install new coaches?
That may make him walk knowing his mantra.
"Together we walk" haha
Dont let victor meldrew see that post. It might be rhe end of him 
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
. Razor rang rings around them for years in super rugby and it’s no surprise that if he’s not up to it, the rest won’t be.Yeah well not according to Crusaders CEO who reckons a lot most it was down to the young talent unearthed by Aaron Webb.
But, as Crusaders chief executive Colin Mansbridge said: “Everyone goes ‘Razor, Razor, Razor’, maybe there should be more ‘Webby, Webby, Webby’.”
Yes, agreed. The crusaders operation ran rings around other organisations. Being better in virtually every aspect of an organisation against your rivals will see you dominate them.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2026:
Robert Van Rooyen circle jerk for ya
Crusaders circle jerk with Knowler there alongside him although Knowler was playing the (only) slightly more balanced role in the exchange.
Takeaways:
- Mo'unga was finally coming right after 50 tests when he took the Yen and ran.
- Everything was BB's fault.
- The assistant coaches are all good because they once made the Crusaders backline "hiss".
- Barrett is fine despite the fact he needs to play better and tidy up his discipline which has been shit all career.
- Razor doesn't have the cattle but also the team makes too many unforced errors and they'd threaten the Boks without those (so wait we do have the cattle?)
- The most important thing it the ABs are peaking in 2027 (fuck off, we're not a RWC only team).
They've done that with the ABs backline too in that they hiss while they're deflating.
You'd think these 2 fanboy 'journos' would have gotten the message that Super Rugby and Test Rigby are worlds apart by now.
Regular Show is wonderful, used to enjoy watching it with my boys.
But to address your point, Ardie Savea made quite a number of World Teams of the year so that should tell you all you need to know.
A great highlights reel player.
Has someone put together a highlights reel for him for 2025?
Has someone put together a lowlights reel of him walking on defence, refusing to hit rucks and being miles away from where he’s required? I’m only semi-joking here - it’d be interesting to see the reaction from fans who only watch highlights.
They'd just call it fake news
'He's allowed a break after carrying the team on his own for all these years'
I just don't get the Ardie hate that goes on in here. He was absolutely worn out at end of this year, but bet he be one first named in team going forward. Well he would be in my team, Hiw man problem year just gone was coaches running him into ground, and that started with Tana in super.
You also think James Parsons is a good analyst and claim to have seen much worse performing All Blacks teams.
Yep ! And your point is? Are you upset because I see things differently than you?
I also don't believe I have seen as much strength of test teams around world.Not upset at all. Just pointing out you seem to be well off the mark fairly often and are very accepting of mediocrity from the team. How exactly do you think it’s okay for an openside flanker to not bother hitting rucks? How is it okay for any player to walk on defence? How does that not place more burden on the other players? How is it okay for any player others look up to to and follow to phone it in the way Savea does?
Am I off the mark, or are you? You seem very confident you know a lot more about game than those who don't agree with you. You seemed to point out I enjoy Parson.s analilysis too? Hell I take notice of Mauss on here, I find he does work on analysing games, where as I watch them at park or on tv, and take my opinions from that. Which is ok, but very very limited.
Mate as I said it all opinions, I got mine, as I said I don't understand the hate. hey many paid pundits and coaches agree me with me obviously. Hey I not in the Will Jordan at 15 fanboi group either, but figure coaches work on having a plan for how he plays.
We had a poster/s (can't remember who) saying they couldn't see what the big deal was with Fabian Holland too. I haven't seen all this walking on defence etc, and it's actually not unusual for loosies (especially 7s) to not hit rucks, as they tend to go for steal, but often if they can't get it set up in defence, I think some loosies hit rucks because they think that's there job, but sometimes (as with Props, locks etc etc) you better to stay out of them, as Boks looked to do in Wellington at times.
Also by all means tell me where I said mediocrity is ok from All Blacks, or are you just making stuff up. I am one who argues against picking teams on what we need for WC, as I think we should try and win every game.I’ve decided to briefly respond to this by saying I’d like you to explain your options more and answer some of the questions being asked of you.
When did you see worse All Blacks teams than the 2025 lot and in which ways were they worse? I’m genuinely interested in this because I’m not old enough to remember anything earlier than the mid-90s and there are a few reasons I think the terrible 1998 run wasn’t as bad as 2025.
And what makes you say Savea performed well in 2025, other than being on the field a lot? I also find it strange you watched the Wellington loss and didn’t see the players walking around, basically not bothering.
As far as Parsons is concerned, he comes across as someone trying to come up with excuses for the All Blacks’ poor performances, scraping at the bottom of the barrel for random statistics because he’s worried about getting offside with his mates. It’s not so much that I think I know more than him. It’s that I don’t think he’s being honest.
I saw teams a number of times that I believe were pretty average, we had teams in (particurlarly late60s/early 70s, probably 90s also) that were at (like now) what I call swing points where we were perhaps struggling to produce a number pf good young players.Hell in about 94 we only won 2 out of 6 tests (and I was at one of those tests, and you could feel almost the struggle to operate, even with the likes of Jones, Zinzan etc)! Apart from perhaps 2006ish to 2017 where we were full of world class players, and among them all time greats we have at times struggled. I clearly remember early 2000s many pulling out hair and wondering how we could compete with supposedly no locks etc. Hell in 1998 we lost 5 tests, and was supposedly worst AB team ever etc.
As I said I have watched rugby a long time and while I not happy how we are going, I still say it's not worst I have seen, though I do think we will have to get a bit more used to it.
What makes me say Savea performed well this year, well hasn't been stella, and should of been rested late in year, and all I said I don't get the Ardie hate, he wasn't that bad ( I also believe he suffered from super carrying MP on his back)
On Parsons. I was at Wellington test, and was as pissed as most especially those at game, there wasn't a whole lot of walking . but to me an inexcusable mental switch off in last 15-20 minutes where most of the team seemed to struggle.
As for Parsons (like most proper pundits) he may come across to you as someone coming up for poor AB performances, and could be, could also be coming across as someone showing what they did wrong or just as importantly what other team did so well. One of reasons I enjoy his work he (and Hall) talk of what they work on in how detailed it is etc. It's a bloody complicated game at top level and the more I get it broken down the better for me. The fact teams even work on the best way to charge down box kicks from different 9s , haw big the play book that players have to learn with calls etc I get real interested when I hear any pundit who has actually played top level rugby. (to fsee this point, listen to some of those commentators that do NH club rugby, tsome are great)That a point I try to make, sometimes we will ( and have always been) get beaten by a team that is simply plays better. If we win is it only because other team plays poorly or we play well. It's all hos you chose to look at games.
I make no apologies for enjoying pundits, I a rugby nerd, am no more knowledgeable than anyone else, but love to hear from people who actually have played game at top level, as much (or maybe more) as reading and discussing the games with plebs like us.Mate just remembered, almost wish I could find the forums I read them in, beginning of 2025 there were also a number of people who assured us all that Richie McCaw was past it and should be dropped, and their opinions were valid then to, I just didn't quite understand them.
Should have won in SA as well as james dalton lost the ball over the line when scoring the winning try
@Catogrande said in Ashes 2025/6:
Duckett has credit in the bank, plus of course we don't have a back up opener. Planning huh? Pope I agree must have the doors of the Last Chance Saloon slapping him on the arse on the way out. The Brook thing is probably a bit more nuanced. It is difficult to discipline someone for playing in an overtly attacking manner when that has been the oft spouted preferred way. Some of the quotes from the England team over the last year or two have been cringeworthy and then to castigate a batsman for playing in the way suggested is a bit unfair just because it didn't come off.
I really like the attacking intent England have been playing with over the last few years, it certainly beats the negative methodology of previous regimes. However the going down all guns blazing all the time does need reigning in. There must be some middle ground.
We all know the prep has been suicidal.
3 test’s in a month before xmas.
England should have has 3-4 players play in oz cricket every year leading up to this. And if Oz dont organise enough practice mstches, then they should have brought the Lions out and played their own warm up matches themselves.
No point playing yourself into form for the boxing day test when you have lost the series
It looks like Bazball v.1 has run its course. It has been fantastic for England and if rain stayed away in Manchester for an hour they would have gone to Australia to defend the ashes.
I think England underestimated OZ hate for bazball and the need to humiliate England. Especially after the flashpoints of the last series such as the Carey incident.
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2026:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
Not saying I'm a supporter of Razor - far from it infact, but I too, would be surprised if he went before the 2027 RWC.
He has a hell of a 2026 season to try and negotiate first.
the problem will be, even if 2026 isnt good,
Who is going to want to take over the team 1 year out from the WC and be judged on that
Smithy
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
Speaking of placating the hordes, normally the ABs losing enrages the hordes. But it might be a sign of how far we've sunk that average fans seem accepting of it all
Looking at social media comments, I’m convinced most people either don’t notice the team’s lost or just don’t watch the games. The sycophantic nature of the comments and ignorance of the overall performance is crazy.
The ridiculous love for Ardie is unreal.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
that's fucking hilarious. who voted for that? Facebook?
Fuck me dead.
I owe later day Sam Cane an apology too, because he was way more visible on the field than the current iteration of Ardie, who it seems, is way more visible off the field between matches.
Cane and McCaw put way more into that 7 shirt than what im seeing from our "Mana-facturer".
Yes agreed, i was against him playing last year but he proved me wrong and he brought an hard nosed AB attitude to his game and the team. I have heard that he was a leader that always asked the hard questions, challenged players made them accountable. We need some of that leadership now because we seem very un all black like in mental fortitude.
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
@No-Quarter i think how Ardie plays, he will unbalance most trios he is part of at international level.
Phenomenal athlete, huge ticker, has been an awesome player for us over the years, but for me, we need him to play a different game, or as many have said for several years, we need to have a 6 and 7 (or 8 depending where you start him) that compliment him, whether he is still good enough to dictate that we pick 2 loosies to suit his game, who knows.
Yeah, this is where I sit. He does amazing things. But, he very much does not do some things.
If you set him in stone (it doesn't matter which position), that sets the requirements for the other two loosies - and if we don't have 2 players who can between them do all of those tasks at a world class level, the group will never work.
Great harmonies too as seen on tiktok
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2026:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2026:
Extraordinary. Holland has gone from the AB coaching group back to the Canes as an asisstant coach. Man, think of the paycut!
https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/12/11/jason-holland-quickly-swaps-all-blacks-for-hurricanes/(With no actual knowledge at all) I'm not even sure it's a pay cut, rather than just get rid of him NZR has just moved him inside the organisation. I wouldn't be surprised if he's on the same money.
aren't the Canes a bit bankrupt? Running ongoing deficits at the moment? I would be shocked if a Super assistant got anything like the same money as an AB coach.
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2026:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2026:
Extraordinary. Holland has gone from the AB coaching group back to the Canes as an asisstant coach. Man, think of the paycut!
https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/12/11/jason-holland-quickly-swaps-all-blacks-for-hurricanes/(With no actual knowledge at all) I'm not even sure it's a pay cut, rather than just get rid of him NZR has just moved him inside the organisation. I wouldn't be surprised if he's on the same money.
aren't the Canes a bit bankrupt? Running ongoing deficits at the moment? I would be shocked if a Super assistant got anything like the same money as an AB coach.
Interesting that he has decided that wants to be an assit at the hurricanes rather than the All Blacks and yes, it would be a reduction in salary. Go back to the organisation that he was the head cosch at before he left.
So his career has gone backwards and he still thinks its a better gig than the ABs.
There might be personal reasons for Holland to leave, but looking at this from the outside it doesnt look very good at all
@Dan54 said in Bokke vs Wales:
@DaGrubster said in Bokke vs Wales:
@Dan54 said in Bokke vs Wales:
@DaGrubster said in Bokke vs Wales:
@Dan54 said in Bokke vs Wales:
@DaGrubster said in Bokke vs Wales:
@sparky said in Bokke vs Wales:
Apparently the All Blacks' self-styled spiritual leader provided a "character testimony" for Etzebeth.
So because they share an agent and pray together, one of them can commit assault against a third person with reduced consequences. Utter, utter bollocks.
Shameful.
Seriously? Why would that even come into consideration?
First BB helps out someone who smacks him in the head and now Savea doing this.
Stop fluffing the boks. Stop being the nice guys of a gladiatoral sport.
Stop acting like pussies and get angry that everyone now thinks we are pussies
Always been done Grubs. hell I have even given a character reference at a rugby judiciary hearing in Brisbane and at Levin only at club level of course. I recall Sam T (Nua ,you know him)doing exactly same for an Auckland player after Nua -Auckland shield match, well that wasn't a character one. more just bullshitted that what happened never really happened.
Like in normal court, I not sure it makes a difference, and I have supplied one there too, you not actually defending the actions, just how you find the person from your dealings with him.
It's not unusual, hell it has happened when Abs etc go up for too. Whether it actually makes a difference, I not sure.
I always used to laugh, Brad Thorn always publicly spoke up for Bakkies Botha, a lot of players did, reckoned that off field he was great joker etc, hell I even heard Phil Kearns among others say same about Richard Loe, who let's face it if we honest made Botha, Estebeth etc look angels!Yeah, i know but why would Savea do it, why fucking bother?
Savea should be distancing himself from this henious act, not give a glowing reference.
Nice guys in rugby finish last. Or get whooped by record scores and know they will still be in the team the next week.
Im angry! No wonder we fall apart on the field when put under a bit of pressure
You ever stop to think Grubs, just maybe off the field they mates? What was in the glowing reference that has got you so upset? (I admit I haven't faintest idea what was written).If you genuinely believe we fall apart because they mates off field, you must of hated the likes of Jerry Collins, Tana Umaga, Brad Thorn, Buck Shelford etc who were real proud to be mates with opposition off field. I just don't get the Ardie hate, although I note it's trendy on here last few months.
Mate. I very rarely stop to think!
I just dont see why a senior All Black provides a character reference to a senior springbok.
In isolation it may seem an over the top reaction but it seems the AB culture is too nice these days and not ruthless enough (i know it isn't conclusive proof but its just a feeling and may come across as irrational).
We look to be very un-All Black like on the field and wilt under pressure badly at times. And we appear very un all black like off the field. I know times change and there is a much larger PI influence in the squad (and that brings a different element - not a criticism at all, just an observation) to but it just feels we have lost that connection to the AB legacy, culture and an absolute ruthless approach to becoming the best side again.
Last time Savea played the boks he was part of a record AB loss. Now he is rushing to their aid to help them.
Fuck them. Dont give them anything. Whats bad for them is good for us. It should burn inside that we lost to them like we did in Wellington and Savea should be setting that tone as a senior AB and probable captain next year.
I know i am old school but when we tour there next year, the boks will see this as a chance to humiliate the All Blacks. And they will be laser focussed on doing just that. We have lost that attitude.
Ramblings over.
There in perhaps lies the difference mate. When we play the Boks (or any team) I want them to have every player they can available. I want us to beat the best, not what's left over. I want no excuses when we win or lose.
I old fashioned like that, have never found it as enjoyable when we beat teams shorn of players through injury or suspension etc. Also old school enough to love the fact that after the game has finshed players are great mates. And I don't judge how hard we are as players off the field, only on it.
See stories like Umaga and George Gregan deciding they were going to play rugby together at a club while having a beer in a pub after a test there. And as I said Jerry Collins was real stoked to be mates with many he played against, always said he often caught up with opposition player in super at airports as they crossed paths, and they always had beer s etc.
Mind you I never agree with them mixing with opposition before a game under any circumstances (that is at any level), but after and off the field I really like they are mates.And to top it off, as I said, I would of been happy if he got a year or so, but think 12 weeks is probably fair anyway. Shit act, but no injury, and it still twice as long as that prick Swain got for putting out Quinn Tupaea for best part of a year! Remember Hore smacking Bradley Davies from behind laying him out and putting him in hospital?
He got a few weeks, Welsh coach (Gatland) was in press saying he thought it was accidental.
You’re are missing the point. I dont think Etzebeth was in danger of being banned for AB matches and the ban was what i was expecting.
Its about a deeper maliase that is coming into the ABs.
Nice guys off the field. Now seemingly nice to play against on the field.
You talk about the late great jerry Collins.
After losing a test match, i beat he would be have been horrible to train against and with. Just cant see that with Ardie
@Dan54 said in Bokke vs Wales:
@DaGrubster said in Bokke vs Wales:
@Dan54 said in Bokke vs Wales:
@DaGrubster said in Bokke vs Wales:
@sparky said in Bokke vs Wales:
Apparently the All Blacks' self-styled spiritual leader provided a "character testimony" for Etzebeth.
So because they share an agent and pray together, one of them can commit assault against a third person with reduced consequences. Utter, utter bollocks.
Shameful.
Seriously? Why would that even come into consideration?
First BB helps out someone who smacks him in the head and now Savea doing this.
Stop fluffing the boks. Stop being the nice guys of a gladiatoral sport.
Stop acting like pussies and get angry that everyone now thinks we are pussies
Always been done Grubs. hell I have even given a character reference at a rugby judiciary hearing in Brisbane and at Levin only at club level of course. I recall Sam T (Nua ,you know him)doing exactly same for an Auckland player after Nua -Auckland shield match, well that wasn't a character one. more just bullshitted that what happened never really happened.
Like in normal court, I not sure it makes a difference, and I have supplied one there too, you not actually defending the actions, just how you find the person from your dealings with him.
It's not unusual, hell it has happened when Abs etc go up for too. Whether it actually makes a difference, I not sure.
I always used to laugh, Brad Thorn always publicly spoke up for Bakkies Botha, a lot of players did, reckoned that off field he was great joker etc, hell I even heard Phil Kearns among others say same about Richard Loe, who let's face it if we honest made Botha, Estebeth etc look angels!Yeah, i know but why would Savea do it, why fucking bother?
Savea should be distancing himself from this henious act, not give a glowing reference.
Nice guys in rugby finish last. Or get whooped by record scores and know they will still be in the team the next week.
Im angry! No wonder we fall apart on the field when put under a bit of pressure
You ever stop to think Grubs, just maybe off the field they mates? What was in the glowing reference that has got you so upset? (I admit I haven't faintest idea what was written).If you genuinely believe we fall apart because they mates off field, you must of hated the likes of Jerry Collins, Tana Umaga, Brad Thorn, Buck Shelford etc who were real proud to be mates with opposition off field. I just don't get the Ardie hate, although I note it's trendy on here last few months.
Mate. I very rarely stop to think!
I just dont see why a senior All Black provides a character reference to a senior springbok.
In isolation it may seem an over the top reaction but it seems the AB culture is too nice these days and not ruthless enough (i know it isn't conclusive proof but its just a feeling and may come across as irrational).
We look to be very un-All Black like on the field and wilt under pressure badly at times. And we appear very un all black like off the field. I know times change and there is a much larger PI influence in the squad (and that brings a different element - not a criticism at all, just an observation) to but it just feels we have lost that connection to the AB legacy, culture and an absolute ruthless approach to becoming the best side again.
Last time Savea played the boks he was part of a record AB loss. Now he is rushing to their aid to help them.
Fuck them. Dont give them anything. Whats bad for them is good for us. It should burn inside that we lost to them like we did in Wellington and Savea should be setting that tone as a senior AB and probable captain next year.
I know i am old school but when we tour there next year, the boks will see this as a chance to humiliate the All Blacks. And they will be laser focussed on doing just that. We have lost that attitude.
Ramblings over.
@Dan54 said in Bokke vs Wales:
@DaGrubster said in Bokke vs Wales:
@sparky said in Bokke vs Wales:
Apparently the All Blacks' self-styled spiritual leader provided a "character testimony" for Etzebeth.
So because they share an agent and pray together, one of them can commit assault against a third person with reduced consequences. Utter, utter bollocks.
Shameful.
Seriously? Why would that even come into consideration?
First BB helps out someone who smacks him in the head and now Savea doing this.
Stop fluffing the boks. Stop being the nice guys of a gladiatoral sport.
Stop acting like pussies and get angry that everyone now thinks we are pussies
Always been done Grubs. hell I have even given a character reference at a rugby judiciary hearing in Brisbane and at Levin only at club level of course. I recall Sam T (Nua ,you know him)doing exactly same for an Auckland player after Nua -Auckland shield match, well that wasn't a character one. more just bullshitted that what happened never really happened.
Like in normal court, I not sure it makes a difference, and I have supplied one there too, you not actually defending the actions, just how you find the person from your dealings with him.
It's not unusual, hell it has happened when Abs etc go up for too. Whether it actually makes a difference, I not sure.
I always used to laugh, Brad Thorn always publicly spoke up for Bakkies Botha, a lot of players did, reckoned that off field he was great joker etc, hell I even heard Phil Kearns among others say same about Richard Loe, who let's face it if we honest made Botha, Estebeth etc look angels!
Yeah, i know but why would Savea do it, why fucking bother?
Savea should be distancing himself from this henious act, not give a glowing reference.
Nice guys in rugby finish last. Or get whooped by record scores and know they will still be in the team the next week.
Im angry! No wonder we fall apart on the field when put under a bit of pressure
@W32 said in Bokke vs Wales:
@Duluth said in Bokke vs Wales:
world.rugby/organisation/governance/regulations/reg-17/appendix-1
Intentional Contact with Eye(s) (7)
Low-end:
12 weeks/matchesMid-range:
18 weeks/matchesTop-end:
24+ weeks/matchesMax:
208 weeks/matches
So where does this fit? Mid range?
I would inclined to go low end. The other player was not injured and watching the video he (Etsebeth) appears to move his thumb away after he realizes it’s in his eye.
Keep digging. Every time you try to defend innocent Eben it make you look sillier and sillier
@mariner4life said in Bokke vs Wales:
The All Blacks are a bunch of fucking cats.
But even above that, why the fuck does a character reference from someone who wasn't even playing come in to it.
A good character can do a henious thing.
Should be totally irrelevant to the 5 seconds of violence
@sparky said in Bokke vs Wales:
Apparently the All Blacks' self-styled spiritual leader provided a "character testimony" for Etzebeth.
So because they share an agent and pray together, one of them can commit assault against a third person with reduced consequences. Utter, utter bollocks.
Shameful.
Seriously? Why would that even come into consideration?
First BB helps out someone who smacks him in the head and now Savea doing this.
Stop fluffing the boks. Stop being the nice guys of a gladiatoral sport.
Stop acting like pussies and get angry that everyone now thinks we are pussies
@W32 said in Bokke vs Wales:
@reprobate said in Bokke vs Wales:
@W32 said in Bokke vs Wales:
@reprobate said in Bokke vs Wales:
Ah, South Africans on the panel are there? Poor old Eben.
Actually, I don't believe so.
Well that's good if so. Intent is a very hard thing to prove or disprove in this situation I would have thought - but really my opinion is as simple as: if you make the decision to attack someone's face, well, that's where their fucking eyes are - and that makes it deliberate.
Not sure if that would make for a fair process though. Accidental contact with the eyes is different than deliberate obviously. This could be a career defining issue for him not to mention the money he will likely lose. I find it hard to believe that he went after his eyes.
Well he pushed his thumb hard into his eye socket while looking straight at the players face.
I find it hard to believe he had any other intention other than going for his eyes.
Do we know how long is thumb was in his eye for?
@canefan said in New All Black Coach:
@African-Monkey said in New All Black Coach:
@game_film said in New All Black Coach:
Be interesting to see how Razor would go coaching the ABs when the Scott Hansen era ends.
Yeah will be interesting because he does come across as a guy who likes having his own men that he trusts by his side as opposed to having guys chosen for him. He seems like a man that wants full control.
If he wants full control, then why does he let Hansen essentially coach the team?
If Scott Hansen applied for the role in 2024 would he have even been seriously considered for an interview?
This stinks.
