The Silver Fern

Jacques Nienaber Would be nice. How long is his contact at Leinster?

@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

Don’t worry everyone, Ardie and best blues squad of the last 100 years will come and save the day.

We’re still fucked

Well I expect the Blues to win the title this year and go with Jamie Joseph to teach South Africa a lesson during this years tour. That’s the most likely thing to happen isn’t it

Haha. Classic butthurt comments. I expect the new coach to be fair in selection, and straight up when dealing with players. That would be a good start

I’m not butthurt at all. I agree he had to go. But unless 5-6 other people go with him then it’s all for nothing. Unless it’s a decent coach that has tier one experience and more than one super rugby title, it’s for nothing. If Savea appears at 7 and Beuaden at 10 in the first game, what was the point? If the backs still can’t catch a high ball, what’s the point? Etc etc. thinking this solves everything is fucking stupid

It's a start. I agree the new team have to be allowed to clean out the squad big time. And go back to basics

I want to know who’s going to replace him. Because if it’s Jospeh, we’re honestly fucked

The kind of assumption that Razor et al would be proud of

Well you tell me why a coach with one season with a positive points differential in his entire career outside of NPC would be the solution without his obviously superior “side kick” doing the heavy lifting?

Half of his senior players apparently voiced no confidence in Razor. Probably more juniors too. Once I heard that I knew he had to go. The new coach could start by winning the dressing room over. And I don't mean pandering to them. NZR need to take active participation in selection of the entire coaching team

I agree. So who’s the coach?

@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

Don’t worry everyone, Ardie and best blues squad of the last 100 years will come and save the day.

We’re still fucked

Well I expect the Blues to win the title this year and go with Jamie Joseph to teach South Africa a lesson during this years tour. That’s the most likely thing to happen isn’t it

Haha. Classic butthurt comments. I expect the new coach to be fair in selection, and straight up when dealing with players. That would be a good start

I’m not butthurt at all. I agree he had to go. But unless 5-6 other people go with him then it’s all for nothing. Unless it’s a decent coach that has tier one experience and more than one super rugby title, it’s for nothing. If Savea appears at 7 and Beuaden at 10 in the first game, what was the point? If the backs still can’t catch a high ball, what’s the point? Etc etc. thinking this solves everything is fucking stupid

It's a start. I agree the new team have to be allowed to clean out the squad big time. And go back to basics

I want to know who’s going to replace him. Because if it’s Jospeh, we’re honestly fucked

The kind of assumption that Razor et al would be proud of

Well you tell me why a coach with one season with a positive points differential in his entire career outside of NPC would be the solution without his obviously superior “side kick” doing the heavy lifting?

@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

Don’t worry everyone, Ardie and best blues squad of the last 100 years will come and save the day.

We’re still fucked

Well I expect the Blues to win the title this year and go with Jamie Joseph to teach South Africa a lesson during this years tour. That’s the most likely thing to happen isn’t it

Haha. Classic butthurt comments. I expect the new coach to be fair in selection, and straight up when dealing with players. That would be a good start

I’m not butthurt at all. I agree he had to go. But unless 5-6 other people go with him then it’s all for nothing. Unless it’s a decent coach that has tier one experience and more than one super rugby title, it’s for nothing. If Savea appears at 7 and Beuaden at 10 in the first game, what was the point? If the backs still can’t catch a high ball, what’s the point? Etc etc. thinking this solves everything is fucking stupid

It's a start. I agree the new team have to be allowed to clean out the squad big time. And go back to basics

I want to know who’s going to replace him. Because if it’s Jospeh, we’re honestly fucked

@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

Don’t worry everyone, Ardie and best blues squad of the last 100 years will come and save the day.

We’re still fucked

Well I expect the Blues to win the title this year and go with Jamie Joseph to teach South Africa a lesson during this years tour. That’s the most likely thing to happen isn’t it

Haha. Classic butthurt comments. I expect the new coach to be fair in selection, and straight up when dealing with players. That would be a good start

I’m not butthurt at all. I agree he had to go. But unless 5-6 other people go with him then it’s all for nothing. Unless it’s a decent coach that has tier one experience and more than one super rugby title, it’s for nothing. If Savea appears at 7 and Beuaden at 10 in the first game, what was the point? If the backs still can’t catch a high ball, what’s the point? Etc etc. thinking this solves everything is fucking stupid

@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

Don’t worry everyone, Ardie and best blues squad of the last 100 years will come and save the day.

We’re still fucked

Well I expect the Blues to win the title this year and go with Jamie Joseph to teach South Africa a lesson during this years tour. That’s the most likely thing to happen isn’t it

Don’t worry everyone, Ardie and best blues squad of the last 100 years will come and save the day.

We’re still fucked

@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

Unless a few players are axed as well, this will be for absolutely nothing

Fish rots from the head.

If you think the rot wasn’t there way before Robinson, you’re taking the piss

Unless a few players are axed as well, this will be for absolutely nothing

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:

Dancing for joy if I'm honest.

So glad the fraud got his comeuppance.

Why are you dancing for joy? This is going to destroy NZ rugby for the foreseeable future. There is no obvious choice and it’s ignoring the rot that’s been there for 8-9 years. Unless most of the players group goes with him, this is for naught

The razor coaching group was already destroying nz rugby for the foreseeable future. Change had to be made.

Yes and Ardie and B Barrett were destroying it before that. Nothing changes unless they go

@Darren said in All Blacks 2026:

I'd get rid of Ryan as well, we had the Blues loose forwards, which were totally dominating, and not a single one makes the AB's, something suspicious was happening there. Unless that was Razors call.

Totally dominating the one year the crusaders lost Robinson and got bitched the few years before as well? Forgive me if I’m not incredibly excited at the thought of that

@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:

Dancing for joy if I'm honest.

So glad the fraud got his comeuppance.

Why are you dancing for joy? This is going to destroy NZ rugby for the foreseeable future. There is no obvious choice and it’s ignoring the rot that’s been there for 8-9 years. Unless most of the players group goes with him, this is for naught

@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:

Best case:

• Scott x2 gets the boot, along with Ellison.
• Ardie gets the boot, he’s not bigger than the ABs and he’s made his intentions clear.
• New captain - preference is Codie Taylor
• Jamie Joseph takes over as head coach and he somehow entices his mate T Brown to come home.

Genuine question Canes. What intentions had Ardie made clear? I not talking about speculation on here or in Herald.
Just one thing I would like answered amongst all the others, like Codie is another supposedly pulling pin if Razor stays etc,

I had a look on Ardie’s Instagram incase he’d posted the news himself. He’s deliberately enabled tags of him on posts around playing for overseas clubs and players being unhappy about not being able to play overseas.

He’s performative and ofc he will have made his intentions clear

Fair enough jimmy, I don't follow anyone on instagram or any of that stuff, I.m pretty old fashioned and don't live in social media world. I use internet to follow rugby (forums like tis etc) and watching music. My 2 passions in life boring as huh?
Don't need to know what everyone thinks etc every minute of their lives.

I’m certainly not saying you do by any means! But that’s how Savea operates so it’s a good insight into his psyche

@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:

Best case:

• Scott x2 gets the boot, along with Ellison.
• Ardie gets the boot, he’s not bigger than the ABs and he’s made his intentions clear.
• New captain - preference is Codie Taylor
• Jamie Joseph takes over as head coach and he somehow entices his mate T Brown to come home.

Genuine question Canes. What intentions had Ardie made clear? I not talking about speculation on here or in Herald.
Just one thing I would like answered amongst all the others, like Codie is another supposedly pulling pin if Razor stays etc,

I had a look on Ardie’s Instagram incase he’d posted the news himself. He’s deliberately enabled tags of him on posts around playing for overseas clubs and players being unhappy about not being able to play overseas.

He’s performative and ofc he will have made his intentions clear

@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:

@ChiefsMana I cannot see how Razor stays with so many players unhappy.

I can’t see how a lot of the players can stay

@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2026:

There is no way this can play out that will be good for the All Blacks or NZ Rugby as a whole.

I doubt the report will be fully released publicly. It is likely a summary will be highly sanitised. I'd also doubt whether NZ's inhouse comms team will be managing it. Potentially pawned off to an agency specialising in crisis comms.

Sacking the coach/coaches will have a major impact. Six months out from our biggest tour. Puts the playing group back to square one.

Keeping the current coaches is likely untenable. They is just so much shit connected to them now.

The high profile players named are now tarnished and are now in certain camps.

Dropping a coach in without a formal recruitment process has the potential to be a Razor V2 situation. On the flipside there just is not the time to spend months scouring the globe for the best fit.

All attention towards players will be around this, any media opps in the lead up to Super will be asking about what their experience was with the ABs.

There are no upsides to what is about to occur, status quo or major overhaul.

It also seriosuly impacts the global brand. If Gallagher decide to pull out in 12-24months (no idea how long the deal is) who’s going to be putting their names on a toxic brand that is quickly being overtaken by its northern hemisphere counter parts

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:

@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:

Best case:

• Scott x2 gets the boot, along with Ellison.
• Ardie gets the boot, he’s not bigger than the ABs and he’s made his intentions clear.
• New captain - preference is Codie Taylor
• Jamie Joseph takes over as head coach and he somehow entices his mate T Brown to come home.

Why Joseph? Aside from 2015 when he had two of the best players to ever play rugby, what about his coaching makes you think he’s a suitable super rugby coach, let along All Blacks coach? Outside of the attack of his teams, which is almost completely down to Tony Brown, what does he actually do?

Because

1. There aren’t many options available right now.

2. we need an old school coach to set these players straight. He’s also a coach that the players will get behind.

3. To be fair he’s mostly always coached teams which lack firepower and star quality. The time he did have that at his disposal he won the title.

A must is that he will need to have coaches like T Brown or Schmidt or high calibre guys around him.

Who would you have?

Someone outside of the NZ set up. I’m not sure who but the rot is too far gone in my opinion, and from what I gather from the (admittedly unreliable) word around Dunedin, Jospeh isn’t all he’s cracked up to be when it comes to player management and coaching.

For all the praise Schmidt gets, he’s shat the bed twice at World Cup time whilst in charge. Not sure that’s changed.

Re. star quality, what star quality do the ABs have compared to the rest of the world? Not a whole lot. We need a good systems coach who can coach a team well. Jospeh isn’t that.

The current squad won’t be able to hack old school

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:

Best case:

• Scott x2 gets the boot, along with Ellison.
• Ardie gets the boot, he’s not bigger than the ABs and he’s made his intentions clear.
• New captain - preference is Codie Taylor
• Jamie Joseph takes over as head coach and he somehow entices his mate T Brown to come home.

Why Joseph? Aside from 2015 when he had two of the best players to ever play rugby, what about his coaching makes you think he’s a suitable super rugby coach, let along All Blacks coach? Outside of the attack of his teams, which is almost completely down to Tony Brown, what does he actually do?

@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:

Apparently we are meant to feel sorry for "Razor" because some of the players 'have revolted against him.'

That's bollocks.

The players were invited to take part in an anonymous review and someone has been leaking those comments.

And there's a reason why some of the players have been unhappy with Robertson's performance as All Blacks coach. He's been shit.

Maybe we could overlook his poor man-management and his awkward press conference if the results and performances have been good.

But they haven't been good. They've been bloody awful. And we've seen a sight I never thought I'd see an All Blacks team give up.

I really hope that David Kirk has said to Scott Robertson (and his Mini Me) those words, made famous by Donald Trump, you're fired!

While Robertson has his faults, the players are a bunch of brats who I suspect take next to zero responsibility for their crap performances. Savea is a moron, everyone knows it, and it’s not like the players from the Blues and Hurricanes have created a fantastic environment at their respective clubs. It’s all talk with a lot of these players and very few have any silverware next to their names. They do need to pull their heads in, no matter who the coach is.

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

If the rumours are true and they need a new coach, he'd have to be available, have significant Test experience, able to work under pressure and be able to gel players and coaching staff together.

Who best fits that criteria?

Left of field but I don’t think the likes of Rennie, Schmidt, Crotter are up to it. All three of have good squads (Rennie was buggered by injuries I’ll admit) and under performed. Schmidts one dimensional game plan shat the the bed when it mattered, Crotter didn’t make the best out of what was a good squad and the best Scottish squad they’d had at the time, and Rennie wasn’t amazing with the Wallabies.

There is one bloke out there who’s been to a World Cup semi final, consistently beaten top tier teams, and has dominated the domestic scene every time he’s touched it and that’s Robbie Deans