All Blacks v Argentina I
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@Mauss said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
With Proctor, you lose that particular gambit. Provide him with terrible ball, he will just get turned over.
fuck i have just paid attention to this little piece of vision. It's used to give Proctor a whack but two Barrett's look infinitely worse.
Firstly BB compounds an error by chucking a pass to a guy now 15m behind the gain line, and more importantly, no one behind him. If he holds that then maybe Jordie secures the ball over him. Although JBarrett then stands there and watches Proctor get smoked and shows no urgency to go help.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@Mauss said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
With Proctor, you lose that particular gambit. Provide him with terrible ball, he will just get turned over.
fuck i have just paid attention to this little piece of vision. It's used to give Proctor a whack but two Barrett's look infinitely worse.
Firstly BB compounds an error by chucking a pass to a guy now 15m behind the gain line, and more importantly, no one behind him. If he holds that then maybe Jordie secures the ball over him. Although JBarrett then stands there and watches Proctor get smoked and shows no urgency to go help.
Who is the loose forward with the shit first clean as well?BB has to take care of that situation, and by that I don't mean heave it out the back and let them deal with it. Not what you expect from a 130+ cap AB that is still good enough to play the position
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Finally got to finish a replay. From what i read/heard i was expecting far worse.
It's always worse in real time. For a good 10mins in the second half I thought "ffs, here we go again".
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Who is the loose forward with the shit first clean as well?
That was Ardie.
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@Mauss said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Who is the loose forward with the shit first clean as well?
That was Ardie.
colour me shocked
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Can you show us with one of your vids when this happened? I'm not discounting it, just can't remember RI getting any good connecting ball.
That was a bit unclear of me, perhaps. I was only referring to defensive connection, as in how they came up together and marked their targets (some other examples of the defensive connection between Proctor and Reece can be found in the 5th and 13th minute).
As far as attack was concerned, he threw a decent, if very basic pass to Reece for an early outside break in the first half, and he himself made a half-break with a slippery carry (I think early in the 2nd half?) but other than that, his attacking contribution was limited.
At the moment, Jordie is mainly used as the distributor in midfield, with Proctor acting more as a kind of Swiss Army knife-type support player.
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Why is there such an aversion to start DMac at 10. Last year he didn't get much of a chance. Hope he gets a chance soon
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Why is there such an aversion to start DMac at 10. Last year he didn't get much of a chance. Hope he gets a chance soon
He started 10 tests last year he only did not start in the other 4.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Why is there such an aversion to start DMac at 10. Last year he didn't get much of a chance. Hope he gets a chance soon
He started 10 tests last year he only did not start in the other 4.
He had plenty of chances.Was he worse than BB though?
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McKenzie was given a good run of starts and, while things weren’t perfect, it seemed like he was just being given a rest - or Barrett was being given a game to keep up to speed - when they first made the switch. And then it was Barrett right till the end of the year for no obvious reason at all.
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Why is there such an aversion to start DMac at 10. Last year he didn't get much of a chance. Hope he gets a chance soon
He started 10 tests last year he only did not start in the other 4.
He had plenty of chances.Was he worse than BB though?
No he wasn't but he had chances not didn't get much of a chance last year.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Why is there such an aversion to start DMac at 10. Last year he didn't get much of a chance. Hope he gets a chance soon
He started 10 tests last year he only did not start in the other 4.
He had plenty of chances.Was he worse than BB though?
No he wasn't but he had chances not didn't get much of a chance last year.
BB has been shit and is a problem.Razor's reluctance to change Ardie or BB is holding back our development
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Why is there such an aversion to start DMac at 10. Last year he didn't get much of a chance. Hope he gets a chance soon
He started 10 tests last year he only did not start in the other 4.
He had plenty of chances.Was he worse than BB though?
No he wasn't but he had chances not didn't get much of a chance last year.
BB has been shit and is a problem.Razor's reluctance to change Ardie or BB is holding back out development
Yep agree with that.
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We need to try out Vaai 6, Savea 7, Sititi 8, Ratima , DMac
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
I don't know what the source of the problem in our backline is. Holland always ran a very creative backline at the Canes.
Give me a B…..give me another B!!
Whaddya got??
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Why is there such an aversion to start DMac at 10. Last year he didn't get much of a chance. Hope he gets a chance soon
He started 10 tests last year he only did not start in the other 4.
He had plenty of chances.And the backline was much much better wirh DMaC at 10.
The ABs were also playing helter skelter rugby, at that point. When we would be shattered after 60 minutes.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Why is there such an aversion to start DMac at 10. Last year he didn't get much of a chance. Hope he gets a chance soon
He started 10 tests last year he only did not start in the other 4.
He had plenty of chances.And the backline was much much better wirh DMaC at 10.
The ABs were also playing helter skelter rugby, at that point. When we would be shattered after 60 minutes.
not my point I was referring to the post he didn't get many chances last year.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Why is there such an aversion to start DMac at 10. Last year he didn't get much of a chance. Hope he gets a chance soon
He started 10 tests last year he only did not start in the other 4.
He had plenty of chances.And the backline was much much better wirh DMaC at 10.
The ABs were also playing helter skelter rugby, at that point. When we would be shattered after 60 minutes.
not my point I was referring to the post he didn't get many chances last year.
Yeah i know. I was adding to that in those starts, the backline was much better than under Bb
