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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

    One thing I noticed this younger generation just don't have that same intensity and edge like the older ones.

    Its even down to stuff like I heard Cully said the old schoolers like Zinny and Fitzy really would not give the newbies like him the time of day until they had established themselves.

    That type of shit got rightfully punted eventually during the Henry era, and it contributed to one of the most dominant AB eras ever.

    I think we're over analysing this a bit now. We're just a but shit, our coaches are shit, whether players are mates off field with the opposition, or whether there's an 80s style hierarchy doesn't matter.

    We can't even do the basics right, we can't catch, we don't kick for territory even though we have a couple of guys who can get distance, we appear mot to have a defensive coach ...

    I'm hoping Razor can turn it around and it's just taken him this long to adjust to this level.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

    One thing I noticed this younger generation just don't have that same intensity and edge like the older ones.

    Its even down to stuff like I heard Cully said the old schoolers like Zinny and Fitzy really would not give the newbies like him the time of day until they had established themselves.

    That type of shit got rightfully punted eventually during the Henry era, and it contributed to one of the most dominant AB eras ever.

    I think we're over analysing this a bit now. We're just a but shit, our coaches are shit, whether players are mates off field with the opposition, or whether there's an 80s style hierarchy doesn't matter.

    We can't even do the basics right, we can't catch, we don't kick for territory even though we have a couple of guys who can get distance, we appear mot to have a defensive coach ...

    I'm hoping Razor can turn it around and it's just taken him this long to adjust to this level.

    Maybe we shouldn’t be hitting each other with pool noodles when we are doing catch practise.

    They should be putting up kicks and having Jordan, Love Beaudy, DMAC and the wingers smashing into each other trying to catch it.

    We don’t need an 80’s hierarchy but we need lads to be pulled after 30 40 mins if having a stinker, or dropped altogether.

    THIS IS THE ALLBLACKS.

    If the lads are performing shit 2 games in a row get them gone. Have them sit in the cheap seats and ruminate on what they have to do to get back in the team.

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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    but we need lads to be pulled after 30 40 mins if having a stinker,

    We'd be playing 7s after 30 minutes then.

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    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

    Pele
    173cm tall

    IMG_5726.jpeg

    That's freakish from Pele - one of the greatest athletes of all time.

    All things being equal outside backs are on a similar level of explosiveness in terms of pace/standing jump so you could maybe assume that someone who is 190cm vs 170cm is going to be able to get their hands higher.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

    One thing I noticed this younger generation just don't have that same intensity and edge like the older ones.

    Its even down to stuff like I heard Cully said the old schoolers like Zinny and Fitzy really would not give the newbies like him the time of day until they had established themselves.

    That type of shit got rightfully punted eventually during the Henry era, and it contributed to one of the most dominant AB eras ever.

    I think we're over analysing this a bit now. We're just a but shit, our coaches are shit, whether players are mates off field with the opposition, or whether there's an 80s style hierarchy doesn't matter.

    We can't even do the basics right, we can't catch, we don't kick for territory even though we have a couple of guys who can get distance, we appear mot to have a defensive coach ...

    I'm hoping Razor can turn it around and it's just taken him this long to adjust to this level.

    I agree with all you've said except I don't have the same hope as you in the last sentence. For things to change I think he will need to replace some of his coaching staff like Foster did. Some of them just aren't up to it.

    Also the ignoring/shunning of Blues players just doesn't add up and something seems to be off there. Similar sort of thing seems to be happening to when Mains was in charge. The coaching staff seem to have a bit of a chip or their heads up their arses.

    Apart from Tuipulotu they've ignored the Blues best players and now have the likes of BB and Christie in the team. Many Blues fans would argue that those two are what have held the Blues back.

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    I am expecting that Mo'unga will be our version of Jim Kelly, and that will be a great trivia answer in years to come.

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    bold of you to suggest we will make another RWC final

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Similar sort of thing seems to be happening to when Mains was in charge.

    Mains eventually got the team humming, so there is hope yet.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    @Nepia what about cards?

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nepia what about cards?

    Ah fuck, we'll be playing 7 aside but with only 6 on the field. 🙂

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    replied to Nepia last edited by KiwiMurph
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    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

    One thing I noticed this younger generation just don't have that same intensity and edge like the older ones.

    Its even down to stuff like I heard Cully said the old schoolers like Zinny and Fitzy really would not give the newbies like him the time of day until they had established themselves.

    That type of shit got rightfully punted eventually during the Henry era, and it contributed to one of the most dominant AB eras ever.

    I think we're over analysing this a bit now. We're just a but shit, our coaches are shit, whether players are mates off field with the opposition, or whether there's an 80s style hierarchy doesn't matter.

    We can't even do the basics right, we can't catch, we don't kick for territory even though we have a couple of guys who can get distance, we appear mot to have a defensive coach ...

    I'm hoping Razor can turn it around and it's just taken him this long to adjust to this level.

    No worries - just needs to fix up the attack, the defense, the set piece, the selection, the leadership and the coaching......

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

    I think we're over analysing this a bit now. We're just a but shit, our coaches are shit, whether players are mates off field with the opposition, or whether there's an 80s style hierarchy doesn't matter.

    It's extraordinary.

    No-one has got a stupid haircut that I can think of - and yet we still can't win?

    On reflection it may be the coaches'haircuts that are the problem?

    And white boots! Actually, white boots annoy me, because they're playing with a white ball and my eyes aren't as sharp as they used to be. Get some green fluoro boots you fluffybunnies!

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

    Get some green fluoro boots you fluffybunnies!

    my son, who is an olympic level hater anyway, haaates the fact they all wear the same boot. have some individuality he reckons.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

    One thing I noticed this younger generation just don't have that same intensity and edge like the older ones.

    Its even down to stuff like I heard Cully said the old schoolers like Zinny and Fitzy really would not give the newbies like him the time of day until they had established themselves.

    That type of shit got rightfully punted eventually during the Henry era, and it contributed to one of the most dominant AB eras ever.

    I think we're over analysing this a bit now. We're just a but shit, our coaches are shit, whether players are mates off field with the opposition, or whether there's an 80s style hierarchy doesn't matter.

    We can't even do the basics right, we can't catch, we don't kick for territory even though we have a couple of guys who can get distance, we appear mot to have a defensive coach ...

    I'm hoping Razor can turn it around and it's just taken him this long to adjust to this level.

    No worries - just needs to fix up the attack, the defense, the set piece, the selection, the leadership and the coaching......

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

    No-one has got a stupid haircut that I can think of

    Yep, the coach is the only one allowed a stupid haircut.

    Also explains why Fakatava isn't there.

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    This video helps confirm what I suspected

    193K views · 3.4K reactions | Down 29-nil: how the Crusaders came...

    193K views · 3.4K reactions | Down 29-nil: how the Crusaders came...

    Down 29-nil: how the Crusaders came back against the Waratahs.

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    @antipodean that Razor had a deadshit game plan and it was the senior players that saved it?

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    @kpkanz said in All Blacks 2025:

    It's more the circumstance of his specific skillset and playstyle at the 12 position may end up being the biggest bottleneck for the AB attack.

    The problem is that no 12 has consistently performed to a high level
    a. outside Christie and BB
    b. with these coaches.

    Jordie has, overseas. What was Leicester doing so well with him that we can't?

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    @SammyC said in All Blacks 2025:

    Mackenzie was dropped for a reason last year, he's a selfish player who can't control a tight game.

    BB should be dropped for multiple reasons this year, he's a scared player who can't control a tight game.

    And DMac passes a lot for a so-called selfish player.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

    look, we're all just shouting in to the void, none of us have any idea what is actually going on inside the camp.

    You must be new here.

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