All Blacks 2025
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bold of you to suggest we will make another RWC final
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia what about cards?
Ah fuck, we'll be playing 7 aside but with only 6 on the field.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
One thing I noticed this younger generation just don't have that same intensity and edge like the older ones.
Its even down to stuff like I heard Cully said the old schoolers like Zinny and Fitzy really would not give the newbies like him the time of day until they had established themselves.
That type of shit got rightfully punted eventually during the Henry era, and it contributed to one of the most dominant AB eras ever.
I think we're over analysing this a bit now. We're just a but shit, our coaches are shit, whether players are mates off field with the opposition, or whether there's an 80s style hierarchy doesn't matter.
We can't even do the basics right, we can't catch, we don't kick for territory even though we have a couple of guys who can get distance, we appear mot to have a defensive coach ...
I'm hoping Razor can turn it around and it's just taken him this long to adjust to this level.
No worries - just needs to fix up the attack, the defense, the set piece, the selection, the leadership and the coaching......
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
I think we're over analysing this a bit now. We're just a but shit, our coaches are shit, whether players are mates off field with the opposition, or whether there's an 80s style hierarchy doesn't matter.
It's extraordinary.
No-one has got a stupid haircut that I can think of - and yet we still can't win?
On reflection it may be the coaches'haircuts that are the problem?
And white boots! Actually, white boots annoy me, because they're playing with a white ball and my eyes aren't as sharp as they used to be. Get some green fluoro boots you fluffybunnies!
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
Get some green fluoro boots you fluffybunnies!
my son, who is an olympic level hater anyway, haaates the fact they all wear the same boot. have some individuality he reckons.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
One thing I noticed this younger generation just don't have that same intensity and edge like the older ones.
Its even down to stuff like I heard Cully said the old schoolers like Zinny and Fitzy really would not give the newbies like him the time of day until they had established themselves.
That type of shit got rightfully punted eventually during the Henry era, and it contributed to one of the most dominant AB eras ever.
I think we're over analysing this a bit now. We're just a but shit, our coaches are shit, whether players are mates off field with the opposition, or whether there's an 80s style hierarchy doesn't matter.
We can't even do the basics right, we can't catch, we don't kick for territory even though we have a couple of guys who can get distance, we appear mot to have a defensive coach ...
I'm hoping Razor can turn it around and it's just taken him this long to adjust to this level.
No worries - just needs to fix up the attack, the defense, the set piece, the selection, the leadership and the coaching......
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This video helps confirm what I suspected
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@antipodean that Razor had a deadshit game plan and it was the senior players that saved it?
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@kpkanz said in All Blacks 2025:
It's more the circumstance of his specific skillset and playstyle at the 12 position may end up being the biggest bottleneck for the AB attack.
The problem is that no 12 has consistently performed to a high level
a. outside Christie and BB
b. with these coaches.Jordie has, overseas. What was Leicester doing so well with him that we can't?
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@SammyC said in All Blacks 2025:
Mackenzie was dropped for a reason last year, he's a selfish player who can't control a tight game.
BB should be dropped for multiple reasons this year, he's a scared player who can't control a tight game.
And DMac passes a lot for a so-called selfish player.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
look, we're all just shouting in to the void, none of us have any idea what is actually going on inside the camp.
You must be new here.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@SammyC said in All Blacks 2025:
Mackenzie was dropped for a reason last year, he's a selfish player who can't control a tight game.
BB should be dropped for multiple reasons this year, he's a scared player who can't control a tight game.
And DMac passes a lot for a so-called selfish player.
I'm convinced Barrett is only still playing because he's after that most caps record. He probably thought he'd be able to retire with the most tries too but Jordan will likely mess that one up for him.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean that Razor had a deadshit game plan and it was the senior players that saved it?
There's a snippet where Sam is doing the talking and Razor looks lost beside him.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean that Razor had a deadshit game plan and it was the senior players that saved it?
There's a snippet where Sam is doing the talking and Razor looks lost beside him.
How well would Robertson have done coaching another Super Rugby team without the talent the Crusaders system gave him access to?
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
Because, if that really is the plan - to swan in play the RWC and fuck off - then he should have been told to fuck off.
And I say that as one of Richie's biggest fans on here.
He's 31 now turns 32 in May 2026, and will be 33 and a half during the 2027 RWC. but he would probably like to win one. Given his age I can't see him having much to offer after RWC even if available. Could play for Samoa or Tonga I guess.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean that Razor had a deadshit game plan and it was the senior players that saved it?
There's a snippet where Sam is doing the talking and Razor looks lost beside him.
How well would Robertson have done coaching another Super Rugby team without the talent the Crusaders system gave him access to?
I'm beginning to think he had better assistant coaches than the other sides. Not now, though.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@SammyC said in All Blacks 2025:
Mackenzie was dropped for a reason last year, he's a selfish player who can't control a tight game.
BB should be dropped for multiple reasons this year, he's a scared player who can't control a tight game.
And DMac passes a lot for a so-called selfish player.
I'm convinced Barrett is only still playing because he's after that most caps record. He probably thought he'd be able to retire with the most tries too but Jordan will likely mess that one up for him.
I think BB could get some good coin in Japan.
But our cupboard of experienced 10s that we can turn to is looking mighty bare 2 years out from the next RWC.