All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II
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Thankfully they saw sense and realized Tupou playing on that injured knee wasn't Vaa'i-able.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@JA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Agree with the general sentiment about the makeup of the loose forwards. But individually I thought Lakai was fine if in the last game. He made post contact metres in heavy traffic, his detail around ball presentation and body positioning was spot on. Granted he got limited chances but seemed up to the physical stuff in that sample. Let's how he goes against the bigger bodies the Wobs have returning this week.
Agree I have high hopes for Lakai, he's a significant upgrade on Kirifi and this years version of Sititi (who really needed to go back to NPC to get some minutes/form under his belt). The problem, as always for some reason, is the balance of the loosies. I don't know why they can't get that right, even ignoring the obvious Blues players they have snubbed we should be able to get a much better balanced trio on the park. Oh and Ardie has been an abject failure at 7, which is hardly surprising given what we need from a 7 in the modern game vs what he brings to the table.
Savea is an obvious issue because he's the size he is and he plays the way he plays, rather than the way you want an openside or number eight to play and he avoids doing a lot of the hard work. Players in other positions need to make up for his deficiencies to achieve a balance and that means they'd need to play a different way to their natural game or the traditional style of whatever position they're playing and they need to be on the larger side too. Move on from Savea, or at least stick him on the bench, and I suspect finding the right balance would become a lot easier.
Yeah agree, I've wanted him on the bench for years now. Not because I think he's a bad player, just that he would be an absolute fucking weapon to bring on with 30 to go. But that'll never happen because we don't tend to view our bench as a weapon, we just want to stack it with jacks of all trades to cover every single possible injury scenario. I would love it if we could move away from the idea of someone being put on the bench being "dropped" or "demoted" - the modern game is a 23 man game, SA have understood that for years.
Savea might even get through as much work in 30 minutes as he does in 80. Not needing to 'pace himself', i.e. avoid hitting rucks and making tackles, he might be able to go all out, do the hard work and still get his highlights in.
I agree about the use of the bench in general and would add that bench players don't need to play fewer minutes than those starting. I'm not necessarily advocating for this but just as an example, rather than starting Roigard, waiting for him to fade, then having to bring on a massive downgrade with Ratima and make the last quarter much easier for the opposition, they could start Ratima and bring Roigard on before half time, leaving him with more in the tank to go up against tired opposition at the end of the game.
At the moment Boks are walloping teams which chase the game in last quarter. I’m sure the presence of Quagga for that period has plenty to do with it.
As an aside, Eddie Jones reckons what's working so well for Boks at end of games is simplification.
Maximum one pass rugby, 'half' field bombs, smash people.
Only run off turnover ball.
Has worked brilliantly in last two weeks as ABs and Pumas overplayed.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
12 - Ardie Savea
What could’ve been…..
The wasteage of not playing Carl Hayman at number 8!
Who was the guy that suggested playing Benny Blair at first five though? Well ahead of the curve of fullbacks that must be moved to first five!
Such a waste!
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
12 - Ardie Savea
What could’ve been…..
The wasteage of not playing Carl Hayman at number 8!
Who was the guy that suggested playing Benny Blair at first five though? Well ahead of the curve of fullbacks that must be moved to first five!
Such a waste!
Jeez, that's some memory you have there, Booboo. He hasn't been online for nearly 20 years......
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Blackdragon was the one who wanted Hayman at 8?
That was a great thread, the height / weight ideal position fucking mess.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Blackdragon was the one who wanted Hayman at 8?
That was a great thread, the height / weight ideal position fucking mess.
Before my time. Sounds like it was up there the speed / weight one from last year.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Blackdragon was the one who wanted Hayman at 8?
That was a great thread, the height / weight ideal position fucking mess.
Before my time. Sounds like it was up there the speed / weight one from last year.
Really?
As @gt12 mentions that thread is legendary amongst the ancients on The Fern.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Blackdragon was the one who wanted Hayman at 8?
That was a great thread, the height / weight ideal position fucking mess.
Before my time. Sounds like it was up there the speed / weight one from last year.
Really?
As @gt12 mentions that thread is legendary amongst the ancients on The Fern.
I was a long-time lurker. who generally logged on for post-match analysis
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Searched for the thread but seems to have disappeared into the mists of interweb obscurity.
Seems you and @blackdragon did overlap a bit though.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Searched for the thread but seems to have disappeared into the mists of interweb obscurity.
Seems you and @blackdragon did overlap a bit though.
I joined around the time or just before the 2005 Lions tour. Led to The Fern by a kiwi at one of my clients (Merrill Lynch).
Never forgiven the bastard.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Thankfully they saw sense and realized Tupou playing on that injured knee wasn't Vaa'i-able.
Now Scooter better be 100% or there'll be trouble brewing in the Muppet Show.Im sure Skelton will test Scooter out to make sure hes ok.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Searched for the thread but seems to have disappeared into the mists of interweb obscurity.
Seems you and @blackdragon did overlap a bit though.
I joined around the time or just before the 2005 Lions tour. Led to The Fern by a kiwi at one of my clients (Merrill Lynch).
Never forgiven the bastard.
I joined around the same time but haven’t been here consistently, tend to drift in when the allblacks are active .
I was here for the 2007 meltdown though
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I was here for the 2007 meltdown though
I was in Cardiff in November '07
It didn't happen
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I was here for the 2007 meltdown though
I was in Cardiff in November '07
It didn't happen
I was in Bogota in November '07.
Can confirm there's lots of shit people claim to have happened - didn't happen.
