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    Starting Judd at halfback will add some leadership back

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    A fascinating matchup this and the pick of the two semi finals. Quite like how both of these sides play in attack, more so than how my own team does. The Bay have the best attack in the comp in my view.

    The weight of expectation seems to be building for Otago.

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    @ACT-Crusader years of reality checks dangle over our heads......

    last week was one if the big differences from previous years though

    1. we started strong
    2. bounced back after going behind
    3. closed it out whilst under pressure (droppie and clutch penalty)

    all things we wouldnt have expected in previous years...let alone all in one game

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    @ACT-Crusader said in SF: Otago v BoP:

    A fascinating matchup this and the pick of the two semi finals. Quite like how both of these sides play in attack, more so than how my own team does. The Bay have the best attack in the comp in my view.

    The weight of expectation seems to be building for Otago.

    On 2nd thought we shall go Into this as slight underdogs, BOPs halfback has been playing domestic rugby since 2010. our halfback was only starting Primary School in 2010

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    Turns out A One Lolofie and Heath Macewan are injured

    Logan Savory

    Stags hooker joins Otago for NPC semifinal

    Stags hooker joins Otago for NPC semifinal

    NPC rules allow teams to draft a front rower if they can state a decent enough case as to why they don’t have a front rower within the province capable of filling the void.

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    More confident this week than I was last week. Big issue last week was we lost the battle in the loose forwards. I don't see that occuring this week. Should get better punch off the bench this week too.

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    ODT rugby chat with the two Kaik boys.

    6 - 7k Tickets sold.

    Oct 14

    ODT Rugby Chat: semifinals in the NPC

    ODT Rugby Chat: semifinals in the NPC

    On our ODT Rugby chat special this week brought to you by Fred's Fencing we are talking semifinals in the NPC, specifically Otago v Bay of Plenty.

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    @ARHS said in SF: Otago v BoP:

    Starting Judd at halfback will add some leadership back

    It's hard to blame Sinton for last week's game. He is still only 18 years old ! And he wasn't that bad, just a bit overwhelmed by the occasion. He's had a very good season so far, that is why he was the starting halfback for a few games.

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    Personally a big fan of seeing Haig get more minutes. Hopefully the Otago pack eats them up

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    @cgrant said in SF: Otago v BoP:

    @ARHS said in SF: Otago v BoP:

    Starting Judd at halfback will add some leadership back

    It's hard to blame Sinton for last week's game. He is still only 18 years old ! And he wasn't that bad, just a bit overwhelmed by the occasion. He's had a very good season so far, that is why he was the starting halfback for a few games.

    Err ..? No, I meant just what I said. Bop is short on leaders without Eklund. Ah Kuoi is not an experienced captain. Needs someone experienced and authoritative to boss the forwards and direct the backs. Unfair to expect that of Charlie or Cashmore, but these knockout games require a team to impose their style and game plan on the opposition early on. Judd has a strong box kick and darts well around the ruck. In my eyes BOP is very much a confidence team. I think the selection addresses this. I cringed in the Hawkes Bay match....

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    The ODT seems to suggest A-zone is not injured…

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    @frugby said in SF: Otago v BoP:

    The ODT seems to suggest A-zone is not injured…

    I just don't think they properly asked a question. It happens. The NZR policy is pretty strict around bringing in an outside frontrower. Need to not have anyone capable. It has to be considered a H&S issue. Both Lolofie and MacEwan have played first class rugby. It wouldn't be a H&S issue to play them. Going down to the next layer would be bringing in guys who haven't played for several weeks. The next in line would have been the Harbour hooker.

    I do rate the intel Logan Savory gets.

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    You'd think they would have had to start Coltman over Souchon

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    @barky1 said in SF: Otago v BoP:

    You'd think they would have had to start Coltman over Souchon

    yeah, i have always found that weird, world cup squads someone picks up an niggle and they bring in cover...who then starts ahead of other sin the squad

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    The most impressive thing this season for the Steamers compared to the last 2 seasons has been the defence and a desperation to defend the line when called upon.

    2023: 38 tries conceded in 11 games (43 scored)
    2024: 40 tries conceded in 13 games (60 scored)
    2025: 26 tries conceded in 11 games. (49 scored)

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    @KiwiPie said in SF: Otago v BoP:

    The most impressive thing this season for the Steamers compared to the last 2 seasons has been the defence and a desperation to defend the line when called upon.

    2023: 38 tries conceded in 11 games (43 scored)
    2024: 40 tries conceded in 13 games (60 scored)
    2025: 26 tries conceded in 11 games. (49 scored)

    Great stat

    Am I far wrong in saying Trask was probably named in all squads and played about 4 games over 3 seasons?

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    @SouthernMann this I find annoying I had no issue with Wellington using Hika Elliot last year as he was playing heartland rugby
    This situation however I find outside the realms of sportsmanship
    If he was a loan player from Otago to Southland then maybe
    For me if you have injuries it’s the cards your dealt with , your telling me there’s no hookers in either Otago club rugby or country rugby who could do a job.

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    @SouthernMann so do I… but Otago did not list Lolofie as injured - Macewan definitely is.

    My thought is maybe the injury triggers you being allowed to call in another player, and the are then free to play regardless of injury?

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    @barky1 Otago are worried about their scrum at the end I think.

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    @Steven-Harris It’s a safety issue - rule only applies to front rowers at this stage of the season.

    All other hookers are not training and they are not allowed to come in cold.

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