SF: Otago v BoP
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@ARHS said in SF: Otago v BoP:
Starting Judd at halfback will add some leadership back
It's hard to blame Sinton for last week's game. He is still only 18 years old ! And he wasn't that bad, just a bit overwhelmed by the occasion. He's had a very good season so far, that is why he was the starting halfback for a few games.
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@cgrant said in SF: Otago v BoP:
@ARHS said in SF: Otago v BoP:
Starting Judd at halfback will add some leadership back
It's hard to blame Sinton for last week's game. He is still only 18 years old ! And he wasn't that bad, just a bit overwhelmed by the occasion. He's had a very good season so far, that is why he was the starting halfback for a few games.
Err ..? No, I meant just what I said. Bop is short on leaders without Eklund. Ah Kuoi is not an experienced captain. Needs someone experienced and authoritative to boss the forwards and direct the backs. Unfair to expect that of Charlie or Cashmore, but these knockout games require a team to impose their style and game plan on the opposition early on. Judd has a strong box kick and darts well around the ruck. In my eyes BOP is very much a confidence team. I think the selection addresses this. I cringed in the Hawkes Bay match....
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@frugby said in SF: Otago v BoP:
The ODT seems to suggest A-zone is not injured…
I just don't think they properly asked a question. It happens. The NZR policy is pretty strict around bringing in an outside frontrower. Need to not have anyone capable. It has to be considered a H&S issue. Both Lolofie and MacEwan have played first class rugby. It wouldn't be a H&S issue to play them. Going down to the next layer would be bringing in guys who haven't played for several weeks. The next in line would have been the Harbour hooker.
I do rate the intel Logan Savory gets.
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@barky1 said in SF: Otago v BoP:
You'd think they would have had to start Coltman over Souchon
yeah, i have always found that weird, world cup squads someone picks up an niggle and they bring in cover...who then starts ahead of other sin the squad
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The most impressive thing this season for the Steamers compared to the last 2 seasons has been the defence and a desperation to defend the line when called upon.
2023: 38 tries conceded in 11 games (43 scored)
2024: 40 tries conceded in 13 games (60 scored)
2025: 26 tries conceded in 11 games. (49 scored) -
@KiwiPie said in SF: Otago v BoP:
The most impressive thing this season for the Steamers compared to the last 2 seasons has been the defence and a desperation to defend the line when called upon.
2023: 38 tries conceded in 11 games (43 scored)
2024: 40 tries conceded in 13 games (60 scored)
2025: 26 tries conceded in 11 games. (49 scored)Great stat
Am I far wrong in saying Trask was probably named in all squads and played about 4 games over 3 seasons?
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@SouthernMann this I find annoying I had no issue with Wellington using Hika Elliot last year as he was playing heartland rugby
This situation however I find outside the realms of sportsmanship
If he was a loan player from Otago to Southland then maybe
For me if you have injuries it’s the cards your dealt with , your telling me there’s no hookers in either Otago club rugby or country rugby who could do a job. -
@SouthernMann so do I… but Otago did not list Lolofie as injured - Macewan definitely is.
My thought is maybe the injury triggers you being allowed to call in another player, and the are then free to play regardless of injury?
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@Steven-Harris It’s a safety issue - rule only applies to front rowers at this stage of the season.
All other hookers are not training and they are not allowed to come in cold.
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Hurley is looking jacked following his injury layoff. I suspect he has been ready for a few weeks but the Landers have been wanting to ensure he is fully firing.
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@bayimports said in SF: Otago v BoP:
@KiwiPie said in SF: Otago v BoP:
The most impressive thing this season for the Steamers compared to the last 2 seasons has been the defence and a desperation to defend the line when called upon.
2023: 38 tries conceded in 11 games (43 scored)
2024: 40 tries conceded in 13 games (60 scored)
2025: 26 tries conceded in 11 games. (49 scored)Great stat
Am I far wrong in saying Trask was probably named in all squads and played about 4 games over 3 seasons?
According to this fantastic site
2023: Zero
2024: 9
2025: 6It also tells me that the current players with most appearances are
63 Eklund (2019-)
51 Narawa (2108-)
50 Trask (2018-)
47 Broughton (2021-)
47 Judd (2017-)
45 Ah Kuoi (2022-)
42 Carter (2019-)
39 Mafileo (2019-)
38 Bartlett (2021-)
38 Cashmore (2021-)
38 Norris (2022-)
35 Kumeroa (2021-)
34 Johnston (2019-)
34 Lalomilo (2018-)
33 Forbes (2018-)That's a whole 15 who have all been the squad for 4 seasons or more - explains why this has been a good time for us, 3 consecutive top 4 finishes.
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Confirmation from Brown Lolofie is fit enough. As thought left out due to issues at scrumtime.
I don't think we should have been able to of brought in an outside player for a squad guy that we picked at the start of the season. Should be suck it up Otago. You picked the guy.
Brown makes strategic changes
Tonight's NPC semifinal could be won in the pits. But neither Otago nor Bay of Plenty will be pulling over to change tyres midway through the race.
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@SouthernMann 100%
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@Bovidae said in SF: Otago v BoP:
I still expect BOP to have an advantage in the scrum.
BoP should smash us up front. You'd pick all of their props over ours.
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