All Blacks - New Coach Selection
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@Kiwiwomble he's an ex-player? Wasnt that all that was mentioned, am guessing being part of the leadership group in one of our most successful periods means he was a leader and probably has good insights, dont thikn they require any special 'qualifications' to sit on the panel?
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@taniwharugby i guess thats what im asking, why him and not mccaw, DC, Reid, whitelock or conrad smith? if im honest i always think of him as a good player but a bit of a hothead so whats he bring to the table?
i can be cynical and so looking for why him other than those others weren't interested
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@taniwharugby I think its more interesting we now have Mealamu and Coles involved
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
You ever hear Razor talk? I was not surprised his ABs team weren't flash.
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Absolutely, the voice might be raspy but at least he's coherent and not full of shit.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
whats coles "qualifications" (for lack of a better word) for joining the panel?
Ninety All Blacks caps and a World Cup winner's medal.
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@sparky that tells me hes really good at rugby...and more qualified than me or you but ive also met lots of very good rugby players i wouldnt trust with a sharp knife...so i was curious what differentiated him from others who have over a hundred caps and two WRC medals for example
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I'm speculating but one thing in his favour might be that he wasn’t one of the untouchable greats.
Plus he had to operate in a group that was pulled together from different environments rather than coming through a Crusaders pipeline with the same guys he'd already been playing with and still earn trust and influence. That could help develop strong people skills and a good feel for group dynamics, not just on-field excellence.
Being a very good player who had to work for his spot, manage emotion and fit into a broader leadership group might give more perspective than being the obvious generational talent. That kind of lens could be pretty useful on a panel.
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@Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
It could also be as simple as that he accepted an offer when others didn't.
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
i can be cynical and so looking for why him other than those others weren't interested
yeah
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@mohikamo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Having just watched the Brad Thorn padcast, I want him!
Think he ticks all the boxes, just.The likes of BBBT should def. be part of NZR's coaching development plans
Are you crazy? The guy was absolutely loathed by his players at end of his Red's tenure for his incessant bible thumping - And you want to bring that to the All Blacks?
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@restofit said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@mohikamo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Having just watched the Brad Thorn padcast, I want him!
Think he ticks all the boxes, just.The likes of BBBT should def. be part of NZR's coaching development plans
Are you crazy? The guy was absolutely loathed by his players at end of his Red's tenure for his incessant bible thumping - And you want to bring that to the All Blacks?
Maybe Ardie and Brad could consolidate Bible groups and achieve unity that way?
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@junior said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@restofit said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@mohikamo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Having just watched the Brad Thorn padcast, I want him!
Think he ticks all the boxes, just.The likes of BBBT should def. be part of NZR's coaching development plans
Are you crazy? The guy was absolutely loathed by his players at end of his Red's tenure for his incessant bible thumping - And you want to bring that to the All Blacks?
Maybe Ardie and Brad could consolidate Bible groups and achieve unity that way?
Mary Foster has a good ring to it.
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Interesting given some of the barbs aimed at Ardie.
Def think Fozzie might have something to add if he is bought in, particularly around player management
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Interesting given some of the barbs aimed at Ardie.
Def think Fozzie might have something to add if he is bought in, particularly around player management
I could be wrong but I don't think Ardie would have rung Razor.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
I think its more interesting we now have Mealamu and Coles involved
Too many hookers now.
I'm thinking it might be as simple as being the senior recent AB player who is local (to HQ)? -
@restofit said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@mohikamo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Having just watched the Brad Thorn padcast, I want him!
Think he ticks all the boxes, just.The likes of BBBT should def. be part of NZR's coaching development plans
Are you crazy? The guy was absolutely loathed by his players at end of his Red's tenure for his incessant bible thumping - And you want to bring that to the All Blacks?
Not quite what I said. Think NZR needs to start developing coaching talent in a proper way rather than haphazard. That means mentoring and assessing their ability for future roles. Thorn's an obvious candidate for that.
