Hurricanes v Blues
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@Canes4life Canes had plenty of go forward and opportunity and they needed a bit of class in their playmaker to take advantage. Defensively he’s not too bad.
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@ACT-Crusader it takes time in the saddle to become a classy player and I think both him and Fletcher Smith are coming along nicely, without setting the house on fire.
Aslong as they keep improving and come more comfortable barking orders I think we will start to see the best. I wonder if they will continue the rotation and bring in Smith for the next game.
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@number9 said in Hurricanes v Blues:
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@Stargazer said in Hurricanes v Blues:
Akira not good at no. 8. Sotutu can't come back soon enough.
Yawn. He’s cleaned up some messy scrums tonight
Blues scrum is fine, the delay with Christie and Ioane is terrible.
Hardly. They’ve been shoved all over the park
Bullshit! Christie taking his time and Aki is slow when picking up the ball from the back.
Ball getting caught behind locks' feet. Schoolboy stuff.
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Not much to add.
Laumape brilliance ended up being decisive.
Apart from brief spell in 2nd Blue never used powerhouse forwards to punch up centre.
At 27 - 22 I was shouting to drive, drive, drive, draw a penalty and at 30-22, to quote a line from The Matrix, it would have been, 'Dodge that!'!
BB seems a shadow of his previous self. Not a great kicking 15.
And Patty T/Ofa very subdued.
Couldn't see what was going on in scrum, but thought May stood up well to Ofa, and Hodgman up and down against Lomax.
Was incandescent when O'Keeffe chose to signal on field decision try at end. I VERY, VERY much doubt he actually saw the ball touch the line, and had he asked the TMO to make the call it would have been no try. The protocol needs some work IMO.
All that said, Canes ought to have had it won by the 60, and Blues played poorly and only just lost, so no huge need to go back to the drawing board.
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As a biased Blues supporter I would rather have seen O’Keefe immediately award a try.There was no immediate raised arm,but an unconvincing call that he had seen the ball on the line.Going to the TMO proved nothing.Before TMOs we would have been happy the ref had seen the try and gone home happy.
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A very quaint way to call a try,remove bodies!
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@pakman said in Hurricanes v Blues:
Not much to add.
Laumape brilliance ended up being decisive.
Apart from brief spell in 2nd Blue never used powerhouse forwards to punch up centre.
At 27 - 22 I was shouting to drive, drive, drive, draw a penalty and at 30-22, to quote a line from The Matrix, it would have been, 'Dodge that!'!
BB seems a shadow of his previous self. Not a great kicking 15.
And Patty T/Ofa very subdued.
Couldn't see what was going on in scrum, but thought May stood up well to Ofa, and Hodgman up and down against Lomax.
Was incandescent when O'Keeffe chose to signal on field decision try at end. I VERY, VERY much doubt he actually saw the ball touch the line, and had he asked the TMO to make the call it would have been no try. The protocol needs some work IMO.
All that said, Canes ought to have had it won by the 60, and Blues played poorly and only just lost, so no huge need to go back to the drawing board.
I haven't seen May on the pitch, he wasn't in the starting 23.
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@Bones said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@cgrant yeah he pulled out before the game - pretty sure it was Armstrong.
Fair cop. I didn't see lineups and checked on Scrum.com, which said May. Then reading GetStuffed.com I saw Armstrong, and meant to change it.
Thought he did well.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:
Just watched the game again and I was actually very happy with how JGB ran the show. Not sure why he's getting so much negativitiy on here, he was very solid without being spectacular and I think that's what the Canes need atm. He cleared well, was strong when running into contact, defended well and his passing wasn't as laboured as some people make out.
Agree. I had read the criticism before the match so was surprised how well he played. His passing was good in this game. It was a bit labored in his first two starts but not this one. The key though with how rugby is played now is clearing the ball. Its essential now even more so than in the past. And in this respect hes clearly better than Smith
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@Bones He's like Prinsep - an easy target for when things go wrong.
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@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@Bones He's like Prinsep - an easy target for when things go wrong.
It's funny - Blackwell has started playing fairly ordinary and not a patch on his form at the start of the year - yet he now gets less attention.
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@Bones said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@Bones He's like Prinsep - an easy target for when things go wrong.
It's funny - Blackwell has started playing fairly ordinary and not a patch on his form at the start of the year - yet he now gets less attention.
He was never in great form. He varies for ordinary or maybe slightly more (Chiefs last game) to poor. There is a reason why he doesn't play 6 (at 1.90 that would be his obvious position) and these reasons reflect his lock performances.
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@canefan said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@pakman I think he got the top bodies to move and was able to see the Canes player with the ball grounded over the line. No other way to actually see the grounding as it happened
@canefan you motivated me to watch the replay again carefully.
On replay it is clear final Canes ‘try’ NOT scored.
Real time two Canes players were on the line blocking ball, and ‘Ref’ was behind maul.
By the time he uncovered bodies and saw ball on line one or two seconds had elapsed.
The grounding was at least a foot short, and he clearly did not see it. TJP knew it had been short, and was already in ref's ear.
The protocols ought NOT to allow ref to deduce a try was scored in such situations. It should have been TMO call.
And since no grounding on replay no try, and back for Canes penalty 10 yards out. [EDIT]
That said, Canes may well have scored from lineout, so can't say much injustice all said and done.
