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    It's official Newcastle Falcons are now Newcastle Red Bulls.

    https://www.newcastlefalcons.co.uk/newcastle-red-bulls/

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      Can Red Bull Give The Falcons Wings?

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        Can Red Bull Give The Falcons Wings?

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        @MiketheSnow
        I do hope it turns out well.
        Having a "new brand" (at least relatively new to rugby) entering the fray and doing well could do wonders for the game.

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          @MiketheSnow
          I do hope it turns out well.
          Having a "new brand" (at least relatively new to rugby) entering the fray and doing well could do wonders for the game.

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          @Billy-Webb said in European Club Rugby:

          @MiketheSnow
          I do hope it turns out well.
          Having a "new brand" (at least relatively new to rugby) entering the fray and doing well could do wonders for the game.

          First thing they need to do is update the website

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            Tom Christie has confirmed that he's joining Newcastle Red Bulls: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360789306/red-bull-moves-rugby-taking-full-ownership-english-club-newcastle

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              Louis Rees-Zammit has signed with Bristol Bears.

              https://www.bristolbearsrugby.com/news/bears-sign-world-class-talent-louis-rees-zammit/

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                WRU to propose halving Welsh professional teams to two

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c2enjxpmgm8o

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                  WRU to propose halving Welsh professional teams to two

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c2enjxpmgm8o

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                  @Bones said in European Club Rugby:

                  WRU to propose halving Welsh professional teams to two

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c2enjxpmgm8o

                  From the sublime to the cor blimey

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                    @MiketheSnow With the new investment from House of Luxury LLC what is the possibility that Scarlets break away and join the English Premiership should the WRU cut the number of processional team to just the two and Llanelli not being the base for one of them?

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                      Slim

                      If there was a merging they’d want it to be Cardiff

                      Nobody, including the Welsh, wants or needs to go to Llanelli

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        Slim

                        If there was a merging they’d want it to be Cardiff

                        Nobody, including the Welsh, wants or needs to go to Llanelli

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                        @MiketheSnow I would have thought three professional teams makes sense: one in Swansea, one in Cardiff, one in Newport.

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                          @MiketheSnow I would have thought three professional teams makes sense: one in Swansea, one in Cardiff, one in Newport.

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                          @sparky said in European Club Rugby:

                          @MiketheSnow I would have thought three professional teams makes sense: one in Swansea, one in Cardiff, one in Newport.

                          Except Newport (Dragons) are the worst region with the lowest attendances

                          When the WRU say they’re proposing losing two teams that’s not strictly the case

                          We’re losing two men’s teams and replacing them with two women’s teams

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                            The Ospreys and the Scarlets have already started legal action against the Welsh Rugby Union. What an absolutely farcical situation.

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                              My twopeneth worth

                              The WRU are hoping that the consultation will deliver their preferred solution, namely two men's teams and 2 women's teams

                              The WRU are prepared to sacrifice two men's teams to pay for two women's teams

                              Theoretically the national campus idea is an excellent one

                              Will that mean we have one national style and game plan which is then replicated by the two remaining teams? Reddin says absolutely not.

                              If that's the case, will the players and national coach have more formal time with each other than they do at present to practice and perfect the national coach's vision?

                              Even though Reddin mentioned NZ as a model to emulate I believe they've been looking at Scotland and want to copy that model.

                              They've got Tandy as coach.

                              They're proposing two teams.

                              But in the 29 years there has been two Scottish regional teams, Glasgow has won the Pro12 once and the URC once. Edinburgh were runners up in the league once, and losing finalists in the European Challenge Cup in 2015.

                              The Scotland national team has won one 5N / 6N championship in that time - to Wales' six - and not advanced beyond the QF stage at the RWC - Wales has contested two SF.

                              Is this really the best model for us to aspire to?

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                My twopeneth worth

                                The WRU are hoping that the consultation will deliver their preferred solution, namely two men's teams and 2 women's teams

                                The WRU are prepared to sacrifice two men's teams to pay for two women's teams

                                Theoretically the national campus idea is an excellent one

                                Will that mean we have one national style and game plan which is then replicated by the two remaining teams? Reddin says absolutely not.

                                If that's the case, will the players and national coach have more formal time with each other than they do at present to practice and perfect the national coach's vision?

                                Even though Reddin mentioned NZ as a model to emulate I believe they've been looking at Scotland and want to copy that model.

                                They've got Tandy as coach.

                                They're proposing two teams.

                                But in the 29 years there has been two Scottish regional teams, Glasgow has won the Pro12 once and the URC once. Edinburgh were runners up in the league once, and losing finalists in the European Challenge Cup in 2015.

                                The Scotland national team has won one 5N / 6N championship in that time - to Wales' six - and not advanced beyond the QF stage at the RWC - Wales has contested two SF.

                                Is this really the best model for us to aspire to?

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                                @MiketheSnow I might have completely missed the point (shock horror). But men's and women's rugby thrive on completely different values and motivations.

                                As Wayne said; men have to play good to feel good.... women have to feel good to play good.

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                                  Racing in France want Ardie Savea.

                                  https://twitter.com/tightfive_rugby/status/1959161990410055715?s=46

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                                    An excellent listen

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      An excellent listen

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                                      @MiketheSnow Cheers Mike, interesting but depressing to listen to.

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                                        Another interesting take from a consistently sensible YouTuber who's passionate about Welsh rugby

                                        2+1 model allying with the English game.

                                        2 teams into the Premiership, 1 in the Championship as a development team

                                        Would mean saying bye bye to URC, which could be tough legally

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          Another interesting take from a consistently sensible YouTuber who's passionate about Welsh rugby

                                          2+1 model allying with the English game.

                                          2 teams into the Premiership, 1 in the Championship as a development team

                                          Would mean saying bye bye to URC, which could be tough legally

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                                          @MiketheSnow Welsh club teams in the English league system would mirror what seems to be successful and popular in soccer. Long-term that's the best financial bet, but as you suggest it might be legally tough to get there.

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