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RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina

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  • frugbyF frugby

    Anybody who wants to know why they aren't playing Roigard, go watch the game vs Uruguay with no pre-conceived bias. I am not saying I agree with the decision, but some of his distribution was a little untidy, and it has cost them.

    They were absolutely planning on having him on the bench, it would be illogical to give him those two starts, plus the bench position against Italy (when the heat was on), if they were planning on Christie being on the bench. They would have given Christie a start vs Uruguay.

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    @frugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

    Anybody who wants to know why they aren't playing Roigard, go watch the game vs Uruguay with no pre-conceived bias. I am not saying I agree with the decision, but some of his distribution was a little untidy, and it has cost them.

    They were absolutely planning on having him on the bench, it would be illogical to give him those two starts, plus the bench position against Italy (when the heat was on), if they were planning on Christie being on the bench. They would have given Christie a start vs Uruguay.

    Agreed it wasn't a great start, but he grew into the game well. Better than Christie would've I dare say.

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      @frugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      Anybody who wants to know why they aren't playing Roigard, go watch the game vs Uruguay with no pre-conceived bias. I am not saying I agree with the decision, but some of his distribution was a little untidy, and it has cost them.

      They were absolutely planning on having him on the bench, it would be illogical to give him those two starts, plus the bench position against Italy (when the heat was on), if they were planning on Christie being on the bench. They would have given Christie a start vs Uruguay.

      Agreed it wasn't a great start, but he grew into the game well. Better than Christie would've I dare say.

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      @antipodean said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      Agreed it wasn't a great start, but he grew into the game well. Better than Christie would've I dare say

      That was the big plus for me. The way he managed his yips was impressive.

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      • LagerLoutL LagerLout

        Oh it's definitely NZR. If we can't pay more, and as a country we define ourselves through our top sportspeople, why doesn't the government embrace professional athletes by offering them tax breaks to stay in the country. The All Blacks are our most recognised International brand, by a country mile, and are responsible for a huge slug of revenue coming into the country. Of course it would never happen, but there's certainly governmental opportunities to support our stars, not just actions NZR could take. It's definitely not Razor's problem to deal with, it just speaks volumes of the outmoded thinking in NZR. A lot more could be done to help develop the grass roots game as is being doing throughout Europe at the moment. Just look at what TNZ have done, I'm sure they didn't want to take the Cup offshore, but with little incentive here and as a commercial entity they didn't have a lot of choice if they wanted to keep winning. I think we will continue to struggle if we don't embrace how the world has changed and keep pace with it.

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        @LagerLout Tax breaks is what the Ireland RFU use to retain their best players in the Irish provincial set up.

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          @His-Bobness said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

          Why are they sticking with Christie? It seems odd.

          Reason given is it's horses for courses and he's there for his D. Can only assume Schmidt and Foster ( and poss. Ryan) see something we don't.

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

          @His-Bobness said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

          Why are they sticking with Christie? It seems odd.

          Reason given is it's horses for courses and he's there for his D. Can only assume Schmidt and Foster ( and poss. Ryan) see something we don't.

          Matt the dinosaur may provide some insight here. I have a feeling it's got a lot to do with the young stallion and a mare.

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          • LagerLoutL LagerLout

            Oh it's definitely NZR. If we can't pay more, and as a country we define ourselves through our top sportspeople, why doesn't the government embrace professional athletes by offering them tax breaks to stay in the country. The All Blacks are our most recognised International brand, by a country mile, and are responsible for a huge slug of revenue coming into the country. Of course it would never happen, but there's certainly governmental opportunities to support our stars, not just actions NZR could take. It's definitely not Razor's problem to deal with, it just speaks volumes of the outmoded thinking in NZR. A lot more could be done to help develop the grass roots game as is being doing throughout Europe at the moment. Just look at what TNZ have done, I'm sure they didn't want to take the Cup offshore, but with little incentive here and as a commercial entity they didn't have a lot of choice if they wanted to keep winning. I think we will continue to struggle if we don't embrace how the world has changed and keep pace with it.

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            @LagerLout

            "Calculating the relief
            You may claim a deduction of 40% of certain income arising in any 10 of the following years:

            • your year of retirement
            • the preceding 14 years of assessment.

            Qualifying income for relief
            The tax relief applies to your earnings directly from participation in the sport only, such as wages or prize money. Any income you earned from items such as personal appearances, sponsorship or interviews does not qualify for tax relief."

            https://www.revenue.ie/en/personal-tax-credits-reliefs-and-exemptions/income-and-employment/sports-person-relief/about-the-relief.aspx

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            • LagerLoutL LagerLout

              Oh it's definitely NZR. If we can't pay more, and as a country we define ourselves through our top sportspeople, why doesn't the government embrace professional athletes by offering them tax breaks to stay in the country. The All Blacks are our most recognised International brand, by a country mile, and are responsible for a huge slug of revenue coming into the country. Of course it would never happen, but there's certainly governmental opportunities to support our stars, not just actions NZR could take. It's definitely not Razor's problem to deal with, it just speaks volumes of the outmoded thinking in NZR. A lot more could be done to help develop the grass roots game as is being doing throughout Europe at the moment. Just look at what TNZ have done, I'm sure they didn't want to take the Cup offshore, but with little incentive here and as a commercial entity they didn't have a lot of choice if they wanted to keep winning. I think we will continue to struggle if we don't embrace how the world has changed and keep pace with it.

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              #514

              @LagerLout said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

              Oh it's definitely NZR. If we can't pay more, and as a country we define ourselves through our top sportspeople, why doesn't the government embrace professional athletes by offering them tax breaks to stay in the country. The All Blacks are our most recognised International brand, by a country mile, and are responsible for a huge slug of revenue coming into the country. Of course it would never happen, but there's certainly governmental opportunities to support our stars, not just actions NZR could take. It's definitely not Razor's problem to deal with, it just speaks volumes of the outmoded thinking in NZR. A lot more could be done to help develop the grass roots game as is being doing throughout Europe at the moment. Just look at what TNZ have done, I'm sure they didn't want to take the Cup offshore, but with little incentive here and as a commercial entity they didn't have a lot of choice if they wanted to keep winning. I think we will continue to struggle if we don't embrace how the world has changed and keep pace with it.

              This is a great idea.
              Tax breaks for top NZ sport team professionals, yes from me.
              I didn't like the Silverlake dilution and perhaps this is another pathway.
              Enhanced revenue for the country from seeing top players, yes.
              Also everyone knows the continual shite occurring in the world. It's obvious to all the benefits to mental health and wellbeing being involved with sport including NZ rugby. Go World Cup, go All Blacks.

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                Lesssssss go Black fark where is @BerniesCorner when you need him?!

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                  hoping its on emirates live sport..

                  come on the ABs!

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                  • bayimportsB bayimports

                    hoping its on emirates live sport..

                    come on the ABs!

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                    #517

                    @bayimports said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                    hoping its on emirates live sport..

                    come on the ABs!

                    Hotspot on your phone, tunnelbear to UK, make sure phone WiFi is off, make sure your tablet region is UK, connect to phone hotspot and login to itv.com.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @bayimports said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      hoping its on emirates live sport..

                      come on the ABs!

                      Hotspot on your phone, tunnelbear to UK, make sure phone WiFi is off, make sure your tablet region is UK, connect to phone hotspot and login to itv.com.

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                      @Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      @bayimports said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      hoping its on emirates live sport..

                      come on the ABs!

                      Hotspot on your phone, tunnelbear to UK, make sure phone WiFi is off, make sure your tablet region is UK, connect to phone hotspot and login to itv.com.

                      Then cover your ears for 80 mins

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @bayimports said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                        hoping its on emirates live sport..

                        come on the ABs!

                        Hotspot on your phone, tunnelbear to UK, make sure phone WiFi is off, make sure your tablet region is UK, connect to phone hotspot and login to itv.com.

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                        @Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                        @bayimports said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                        hoping its on emirates live sport..

                        come on the ABs!

                        Hotspot on your phone, tunnelbear to UK, make sure phone WiFi is off, make sure your tablet region is UK, connect to phone hotspot and login to itv.com.

                        Thanks mate, I am ok with the vpn on the ground but I will literally be flying during the game, I am hoping the airline has it covered!

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                          Four hours to kickoff. Tonight is massive.

                          Go Black!

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                            LagerLout
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                            3 hrs and 16 minutes but who is sitting here counting... lol

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                            • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                              Lesssssss go Black fark where is @BerniesCorner when you need him?!

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                              @Jailbreak7 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                              Lesssssss go Black fark where is @BerniesCorner when you need him?!

                              In the post right above you.

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                                Jailbreak7
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                                The waiting is excruciating Go Black!!

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                                  BerniesCorner
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                                  Slow week
                                  About to walk into Marylebone pub
                                  All Black cap on
                                  COME ON ALL BLACKS

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                                    Come on Foz you got this

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                                      Sitting in my seat prior to take off and tv screen confirms rugby will be live…fuck yeah! Go ABs!

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                                        Hard to know what to expect ,

                                        a difficult arm wrestle wouldn’t surprise me, and a blow out like the France quarter in 15 wouldn’t surprise me either .

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                                        • bayimportsB bayimports

                                          Sitting in my seat prior to take off and tv screen confirms rugby will be live…fuck yeah! Go ABs!

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                                          @bayimports said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                          Sitting in my seat prior to take off and tv screen confirms rugby will be live…fuck yeah! Go ABs!

                                          I like it how you're trying to make sure everyone knows we've got you to thank for making it to a semifinal, due to you buying a flight ticket for the same time.

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