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    @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2025:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2025:

    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

    I don't think dominant tackles is necessarily the issue. The ABs lack real ball carriers. Someone to punch holes and bend the defensive line. All of Read, Collins and Kaino could hit a ball up with venom. Who are the bruising ball carriers in the AB team right now that teams need to commit a couple of tacklers in order to subdue?

    Sami? Sititi last year. Clarke if he is selected. His knees are weapons.

    Samisoni is one, though he hasn't been as explosive so far this year.

    Sititi uses his footwork more than his brawn to breach the gain line.

    Clarke is a good strike weapon, granted.

    Is that it? Va'ai is lightweight as a carrier, Holland has potential, Patty T is missed, T Williams when on form can carry, as can Tosi. Jordie Barrett shows glimpses of it, but it isn't his strength. Ioane can carry well at 13. That is not enough IMO.

    To compare, Boks have the following ball carriers in their team: Marx, Etzebeth/de Jager/Snyman, Kolisi, PSDT, Wiese, DDA/Esterhuizen, Hooker.

    I know ABs play a different kind of game, but if you allow a team with that many ball carriers possession and momentum, you're going to be battered into submission.

    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

    I don't think dominant tackles is necessarily the issue. The ABs lack real ball carriers. Someone to punch holes and bend the defensive line. All of Read, Collins and Kaino could hit a ball up with venom. Who are the bruising ball carriers in the AB team right now that teams need to commit a couple of tacklers in order to subdue?

    Sami? Sititi last year. Clarke if he is selected. His knees are weapons.

    Samisoni is one, though he hasn't been as explosive so far this year.

    Sititi uses his footwork more than his brawn to breach the gain line.

    Clarke is a good strike weapon, granted.

    Is that it? Va'ai is lightweight as a carrier, Holland has potential, Patty T is missed, T Williams when on form can carry, as can Tosi. Jordie Barrett shows glimpses of it, but it isn't his strength. Ioane can carry well at 13. That is not enough IMO.

    To compare, Boks have the following ball carriers in their team: Marx, Etzebeth/de Jager/Snyman, Kolisi, PSDT, Wiese, DDA/Esterhuizen, Hooker.

    I know ABs play a different kind of game, but if you allow a team with that many ball carriers possession and momentum, you're going to be battered into submission.

    Because we’re not selecting the larger enforcer type players.

    Going off super rugby page stats, so give it take a kilo or two and a cm or two:
    Height wise: only two of the in the top 10 tallest loose forwards have been selected (Va’ai and Parker, take out Va’ai, it’s one).

    Weight wise: three - Va’ai, Parker, Finau (and Finau is actually on the shorter side

    can you list the 10 tallest
    finau is 1.97 so wouldnt call him on shorter side.
    im all for picking bigger loose forwards

    @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2025:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2025:

    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

    I don't think dominant tackles is necessarily the issue. The ABs lack real ball carriers. Someone to punch holes and bend the defensive line. All of Read, Collins and Kaino could hit a ball up with venom. Who are the bruising ball carriers in the AB team right now that teams need to commit a couple of tacklers in order to subdue?

    Sami? Sititi last year. Clarke if he is selected. His knees are weapons.

    Samisoni is one, though he hasn't been as explosive so far this year.

    Sititi uses his footwork more than his brawn to breach the gain line.

    Clarke is a good strike weapon, granted.

    Is that it? Va'ai is lightweight as a carrier, Holland has potential, Patty T is missed, T Williams when on form can carry, as can Tosi. Jordie Barrett shows glimpses of it, but it isn't his strength. Ioane can carry well at 13. That is not enough IMO.

    To compare, Boks have the following ball carriers in their team: Marx, Etzebeth/de Jager/Snyman, Kolisi, PSDT, Wiese, DDA/Esterhuizen, Hooker.

    I know ABs play a different kind of game, but if you allow a team with that many ball carriers possession and momentum, you're going to be battered into submission.

    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

    I don't think dominant tackles is necessarily the issue. The ABs lack real ball carriers. Someone to punch holes and bend the defensive line. All of Read, Collins and Kaino could hit a ball up with venom. Who are the bruising ball carriers in the AB team right now that teams need to commit a couple of tacklers in order to subdue?

    Sami? Sititi last year. Clarke if he is selected. His knees are weapons.

    Samisoni is one, though he hasn't been as explosive so far this year.

    Sititi uses his footwork more than his brawn to breach the gain line.

    Clarke is a good strike weapon, granted.

    Is that it? Va'ai is lightweight as a carrier, Holland has potential, Patty T is missed, T Williams when on form can carry, as can Tosi. Jordie Barrett shows glimpses of it, but it isn't his strength. Ioane can carry well at 13. That is not enough IMO.

    To compare, Boks have the following ball carriers in their team: Marx, Etzebeth/de Jager/Snyman, Kolisi, PSDT, Wiese, DDA/Esterhuizen, Hooker.

    I know ABs play a different kind of game, but if you allow a team with that many ball carriers possession and momentum, you're going to be battered into submission.

    Because we’re not selecting the larger enforcer type players.

    Going off super rugby page stats, so give it take a kilo or two and a cm or two:
    Height wise: only two of the in the top 10 tallest loose forwards have been selected (Va’ai and Parker, take out Va’ai, it’s one).

    Weight wise: three - Va’ai, Parker, Finau (and Finau is actually on the shorter side

    can you list the 10 tallest
    finau is 1.97 so wouldnt call him on shorter side.
    im all for picking bigger loose forwards

    Says Finau is 193cm on the ABs page.
    Top 10 tallest:
    Va’ai: 198
    Parker:197
    Delaney: 197
    Haig: 197
    Ah Khoi: 196
    Saufua: 196
    Saifolio: 195
    Howden: 195
    Wrampling: 194
    Grace: 194

    Top 10 heaviest (weights to be taken with a grain of salt imo):
    Saifoloi: 120
    Va’ai: 118
    Parker: 117
    Ah Kuoi: 116
    Saufua: 116
    Finau: 115
    Haig: 114
    Delaney: 114
    Wrampling: 114
    Dalton: 113
    Sititi: 113

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    @jimmyb Finau is 118 kg. He said so in a post-match interview during SR.

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      #6220

      Razor will be super stoked our saviour is returning from injury.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360826208/all-blacks-top-halfback-cam-rogard-make-comeback-injury-npc

      Full list of ABs playing NPC this week:

      Taranaki: Josh Lord

      Counties Manukau: Cam Roigard

      Auckland: Caleb Clarke, Rieko Ioane

      Wellington: Peter Lakai, Kyle Preston, Ruben Love

      Ta$man: Leicester Fainga'anuku

      Waikato: Samipeni Finau, Luke Jacobson, Anton Lienert-Brown

      Otago: George Bower

      Bay of Plenty: Pasilio Tosi

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        Here is the full list. Norris should be playing too, unless he is the reason Bower was called in.

        547657592_1331933538597188_5218683354548552181_n.jpg

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          #6222

          Cory Jane Criticizes All Blacks’ High-Ball Technique After Springboks Defeat

          Former All Blacks star Cory Jane has voiced concern over New Zealand’s high-ball performance, describing the team’s aerial technique as “sloppy” following their recent loss to the Springboks.

          Jane, a 2011 World Cup winner and one of rugby’s most reliable high-ball specialists during his 55-Test career, now coaches defense and aerial contests at the Hurricanes. He explained that while the game has evolved with more contestable kicks due to law changes, the core fundamentals of catching remain unchanged.

          “The way I always try to train our boys here is to get nice and square, get your knee in front to protect you, but also to get separation from the chaser. If you let them into your airspace, it’s a genuine 50/50,” Jane told Sport Nation.

          He highlighted that many current players jump off one leg, leaving them vulnerable to onrushing chasers. Against South Africa, he noted Damian McKenzie and others were jumping with the wrong knee forward, which compromised their protection.

          “I just think for all the glove work, or bubble as they used to call it, protecting the catcher, the technique’s got sloppy. We need to get back to having better technique in the air, to catch more than we drop,” Jane said.

          Jane emphasized that confidence is crucial in aerial battles, recalling how the All Blacks of his era built a reputation that unsettled opponents. But he warned that without sharper skills, today’s team risks losing those contests.

          He also pointed out the tactical shift in defensive setups, where playmakers are increasingly exposed under the high ball. In the Springboks clash, Beauden and Jordie Barrett swapped positions in the backfield to manage pressure, with Jordie often taking the deeper role.

          “There are ways you can get around it, but the reality is the majority of 10s have to catch high balls these days,” Jane concluded.

          #AllBlacks #Springboks #CoryJane #RugbyUnion #RugbyAnalysis #URC

          https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1MV8eiKU97/

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            Razor will be super stoked our saviour is returning from injury.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360826208/all-blacks-top-halfback-cam-rogard-make-comeback-injury-npc

            Full list of ABs playing NPC this week:

            Taranaki: Josh Lord

            Counties Manukau: Cam Roigard

            Auckland: Caleb Clarke, Rieko Ioane

            Wellington: Peter Lakai, Kyle Preston, Ruben Love

            Ta$man: Leicester Fainga'anuku

            Waikato: Samipeni Finau, Luke Jacobson, Anton Lienert-Brown

            Otago: George Bower

            Bay of Plenty: Pasilio Tosi

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            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

            Auckland: Caleb Clarke, Rieko Ioane

            Will be interesting where Rieko plays. Presumably Clarke will play 11 - will Rieko play 13 or 14 (or bench)

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              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

              Why the flying fuck do they persist with Beauden Barrett at First Five?

              His game management is atrocious these days.

              BB was actually quite good in first 60. But we need a closer rather than a joker for the difficult games.

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              @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

              Why the flying fuck do they persist with Beauden Barrett at First Five?

              His game management is atrocious these days.

              BB was actually quite good in first 60. But we need a closer rather than a joker for the difficult games.

              It took BB about 7 minutes into the game to throw a loopy pass in his own in-goal, putting Proctor under immense pressure for zero possible gain.
              He was shit.

              edit to add: then in the 8th minute, samisoni good counterruck, next runner a bit isolated and savea turnover, quick ball, mckenzie wide pass - to beauden with a 3 on 2. hates an overlap. decides to kick. decides that too late. partially charged. just horrible.
              2nd edit: 14th minute, 3 men outside him with mckenzie hitting the line at pace, no SA defence, and the cover 10m back... BB hates an overlap, takes the tackle. this one was so bad that both commentators called him out on it.

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                @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                Why the flying fuck do they persist with Beauden Barrett at First Five?

                His game management is atrocious these days.

                BB was actually quite good in first 60. But we need a closer rather than a joker for the difficult games.

                It took BB about 7 minutes into the game to throw a loopy pass in his own in-goal, putting Proctor under immense pressure for zero possible gain.
                He was shit.

                edit to add: then in the 8th minute, samisoni good counterruck, next runner a bit isolated and savea turnover, quick ball, mckenzie wide pass - to beauden with a 3 on 2. hates an overlap. decides to kick. decides that too late. partially charged. just horrible.
                2nd edit: 14th minute, 3 men outside him with mckenzie hitting the line at pace, no SA defence, and the cover 10m back... BB hates an overlap, takes the tackle. this one was so bad that both commentators called him out on it.

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                #6225

                @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                Why the flying fuck do they persist with Beauden Barrett at First Five?

                His game management is atrocious these days.

                BB was actually quite good in first 60. But we need a closer rather than a joker for the difficult games.

                It took BB about 7 minutes into the game to throw a loopy pass in his own in-goal, putting Proctor under immense pressure for zero possible gain.
                He was shit.

                I don't think he can help himself. But clearly this is what Razor wants, otherwise surely he would be dropped for all this recidivist Harlem Globetrotter shit?

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  Razor will be super stoked our saviour is returning from injury.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360826208/all-blacks-top-halfback-cam-rogard-make-comeback-injury-npc

                  Full list of ABs playing NPC this week:

                  Taranaki: Josh Lord

                  Counties Manukau: Cam Roigard

                  Auckland: Caleb Clarke, Rieko Ioane

                  Wellington: Peter Lakai, Kyle Preston, Ruben Love

                  Ta$man: Leicester Fainga'anuku

                  Waikato: Samipeni Finau, Luke Jacobson, Anton Lienert-Brown

                  Otago: George Bower

                  Bay of Plenty: Pasilio Tosi

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                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Razor will be super stoked our saviour is returning from injury.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360826208/all-blacks-top-halfback-cam-rogard-make-comeback-injury-npc

                  Full list of ABs playing NPC this week:

                  Taranaki: Josh Lord

                  Counties Manukau: Cam Roigard

                  Auckland: Caleb Clarke, Rieko Ioane

                  Wellington: Peter Lakai, Kyle Preston, Ruben Love

                  Ta$man: Leicester Fainga'anuku

                  Waikato: Samipeni Finau, Luke Jacobson, Anton Lienert-Brown

                  Otago: George Bower

                  Bay of Plenty: Pasilio Tosi

                  Boo, I agreed with @Chris, send EVERY single AB back to NPC this weekend (including the captains) and tell them if they don't perform to standard then they won't be considered for selection. There has to be some consequence to that embarrassing shit show they served up!

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    Here is the full list. Norris should be playing too, unless he is the reason Bower was called in.

                    547657592_1331933538597188_5218683354548552181_n.jpg

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                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Here is the full list. Norris should be playing too, unless he is the reason Bower was called in.

                    547657592_1331933538597188_5218683354548552181_n.jpg

                    Leicester has made a couple of nice cameos in his few games for Ta$man so far.

                    Few boomfah moments and a lovely long pass to put a guy in for a try against Canterbury.

                    Certainly more impact than we have been getting from ALB recently.

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                    • JetJ Jet

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Here is the full list. Norris should be playing too, unless he is the reason Bower was called in.

                      547657592_1331933538597188_5218683354548552181_n.jpg

                      Leicester has made a couple of nice cameos in his few games for Ta$man so far.

                      Few boomfah moments and a lovely long pass to put a guy in for a try against Canterbury.

                      Certainly more impact than we have been getting from ALB recently.

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                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Here is the full list. Norris should be playing too, unless he is the reason Bower was called in.

                      547657592_1331933538597188_5218683354548552181_n.jpg

                      Leicester has made a couple of nice cameos in his few games for Ta$man so far.

                      Few boomfah moments and a lovely long pass to put a guy in for a try against Canterbury.

                      Certainly more impact than we have been getting from ALB recently.

                      I don't see the harm in switching him in for ALB, who IMHO is cooked

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        Cory Jane Criticizes All Blacks’ High-Ball Technique After Springboks Defeat

                        Former All Blacks star Cory Jane has voiced concern over New Zealand’s high-ball performance, describing the team’s aerial technique as “sloppy” following their recent loss to the Springboks.

                        Jane, a 2011 World Cup winner and one of rugby’s most reliable high-ball specialists during his 55-Test career, now coaches defense and aerial contests at the Hurricanes. He explained that while the game has evolved with more contestable kicks due to law changes, the core fundamentals of catching remain unchanged.

                        “The way I always try to train our boys here is to get nice and square, get your knee in front to protect you, but also to get separation from the chaser. If you let them into your airspace, it’s a genuine 50/50,” Jane told Sport Nation.

                        He highlighted that many current players jump off one leg, leaving them vulnerable to onrushing chasers. Against South Africa, he noted Damian McKenzie and others were jumping with the wrong knee forward, which compromised their protection.

                        “I just think for all the glove work, or bubble as they used to call it, protecting the catcher, the technique’s got sloppy. We need to get back to having better technique in the air, to catch more than we drop,” Jane said.

                        Jane emphasized that confidence is crucial in aerial battles, recalling how the All Blacks of his era built a reputation that unsettled opponents. But he warned that without sharper skills, today’s team risks losing those contests.

                        He also pointed out the tactical shift in defensive setups, where playmakers are increasingly exposed under the high ball. In the Springboks clash, Beauden and Jordie Barrett swapped positions in the backfield to manage pressure, with Jordie often taking the deeper role.

                        “There are ways you can get around it, but the reality is the majority of 10s have to catch high balls these days,” Jane concluded.

                        #AllBlacks #Springboks #CoryJane #RugbyUnion #RugbyAnalysis #URC

                        https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1MV8eiKU97/

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                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Cory Jane Criticizes All Blacks’ High-Ball Technique After Springboks Defeat

                        Former All Blacks star Cory Jane has voiced concern over New Zealand’s high-ball performance, describing the team’s aerial technique as “sloppy” following their recent loss to the Springboks.

                        Jane, a 2011 World Cup winner and one of rugby’s most reliable high-ball specialists during his 55-Test career, now coaches defense and aerial contests at the Hurricanes. He explained that while the game has evolved with more contestable kicks due to law changes, the core fundamentals of catching remain unchanged.

                        “The way I always try to train our boys here is to get nice and square, get your knee in front to protect you, but also to get separation from the chaser. If you let them into your airspace, it’s a genuine 50/50,” Jane told Sport Nation.

                        He highlighted that many current players jump off one leg, leaving them vulnerable to onrushing chasers. Against South Africa, he noted Damian McKenzie and others were jumping with the wrong knee forward, which compromised their protection.

                        “I just think for all the glove work, or bubble as they used to call it, protecting the catcher, the technique’s got sloppy. We need to get back to having better technique in the air, to catch more than we drop,” Jane said.

                        Jane emphasized that confidence is crucial in aerial battles, recalling how the All Blacks of his era built a reputation that unsettled opponents. But he warned that without sharper skills, today’s team risks losing those contests.

                        He also pointed out the tactical shift in defensive setups, where playmakers are increasingly exposed under the high ball. In the Springboks clash, Beauden and Jordie Barrett swapped positions in the backfield to manage pressure, with Jordie often taking the deeper role.

                        “There are ways you can get around it, but the reality is the majority of 10s have to catch high balls these days,” Jane concluded.

                        #AllBlacks #Springboks #CoryJane #RugbyUnion #RugbyAnalysis #URC

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                        Another reason to move Love to 10

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                          Ive seen a number of photos of Finau standing next to Vaa'i and they look the same height with Finau looking a bit heavier.

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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Cory Jane Criticizes All Blacks’ High-Ball Technique After Springboks Defeat

                            Former All Blacks star Cory Jane has voiced concern over New Zealand’s high-ball performance, describing the team’s aerial technique as “sloppy” following their recent loss to the Springboks.

                            Jane, a 2011 World Cup winner and one of rugby’s most reliable high-ball specialists during his 55-Test career, now coaches defense and aerial contests at the Hurricanes. He explained that while the game has evolved with more contestable kicks due to law changes, the core fundamentals of catching remain unchanged.

                            “The way I always try to train our boys here is to get nice and square, get your knee in front to protect you, but also to get separation from the chaser. If you let them into your airspace, it’s a genuine 50/50,” Jane told Sport Nation.

                            He highlighted that many current players jump off one leg, leaving them vulnerable to onrushing chasers. Against South Africa, he noted Damian McKenzie and others were jumping with the wrong knee forward, which compromised their protection.

                            “I just think for all the glove work, or bubble as they used to call it, protecting the catcher, the technique’s got sloppy. We need to get back to having better technique in the air, to catch more than we drop,” Jane said.

                            Jane emphasized that confidence is crucial in aerial battles, recalling how the All Blacks of his era built a reputation that unsettled opponents. But he warned that without sharper skills, today’s team risks losing those contests.

                            He also pointed out the tactical shift in defensive setups, where playmakers are increasingly exposed under the high ball. In the Springboks clash, Beauden and Jordie Barrett swapped positions in the backfield to manage pressure, with Jordie often taking the deeper role.

                            “There are ways you can get around it, but the reality is the majority of 10s have to catch high balls these days,” Jane concluded.

                            #AllBlacks #Springboks #CoryJane #RugbyUnion #RugbyAnalysis #URC

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                            Another reason to move Love to 10

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                            @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Cory Jane Criticizes All Blacks’ High-Ball Technique After Springboks Defeat

                            Former All Blacks star Cory Jane has voiced concern over New Zealand’s high-ball performance, describing the team’s aerial technique as “sloppy” following their recent loss to the Springboks.

                            Jane, a 2011 World Cup winner and one of rugby’s most reliable high-ball specialists during his 55-Test career, now coaches defense and aerial contests at the Hurricanes. He explained that while the game has evolved with more contestable kicks due to law changes, the core fundamentals of catching remain unchanged.

                            “The way I always try to train our boys here is to get nice and square, get your knee in front to protect you, but also to get separation from the chaser. If you let them into your airspace, it’s a genuine 50/50,” Jane told Sport Nation.

                            He highlighted that many current players jump off one leg, leaving them vulnerable to onrushing chasers. Against South Africa, he noted Damian McKenzie and others were jumping with the wrong knee forward, which compromised their protection.

                            “I just think for all the glove work, or bubble as they used to call it, protecting the catcher, the technique’s got sloppy. We need to get back to having better technique in the air, to catch more than we drop,” Jane said.

                            Jane emphasized that confidence is crucial in aerial battles, recalling how the All Blacks of his era built a reputation that unsettled opponents. But he warned that without sharper skills, today’s team risks losing those contests.

                            He also pointed out the tactical shift in defensive setups, where playmakers are increasingly exposed under the high ball. In the Springboks clash, Beauden and Jordie Barrett swapped positions in the backfield to manage pressure, with Jordie often taking the deeper role.

                            “There are ways you can get around it, but the reality is the majority of 10s have to catch high balls these days,” Jane concluded.

                            #AllBlacks #Springboks #CoryJane #RugbyUnion #RugbyAnalysis #URC

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                            Another reason to move Love to 10

                            A reason to get CJ in to coach high kick receptions

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                              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Here is the full list. Norris should be playing too, unless he is the reason Bower was called in.

                              547657592_1331933538597188_5218683354548552181_n.jpg

                              Leicester has made a couple of nice cameos in his few games for Ta$man so far.

                              Few boomfah moments and a lovely long pass to put a guy in for a try against Canterbury.

                              Certainly more impact than we have been getting from ALB recently.

                              I don't see the harm in switching him in for ALB, who IMHO is cooked

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                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Here is the full list. Norris should be playing too, unless he is the reason Bower was called in.

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                              Leicester has made a couple of nice cameos in his few games for Ta$man so far.

                              Few boomfah moments and a lovely long pass to put a guy in for a try against Canterbury.

                              Certainly more impact than we have been getting from ALB recently.

                              > I don't see the harm in switching him in for ALB, who IMHO is cooked

                              The fact he could theoretically get 100 test caps doesn’t sit well with me

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                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Here is the full list. Norris should be playing too, unless he is the reason Bower was called in.

                                547657592_1331933538597188_5218683354548552181_n.jpg

                                Leicester has made a couple of nice cameos in his few games for Ta$man so far.

                                Few boomfah moments and a lovely long pass to put a guy in for a try against Canterbury.

                                Certainly more impact than we have been getting from ALB recently.

                                > I don't see the harm in switching him in for ALB, who IMHO is cooked

                                The fact he could theoretically get 100 test caps doesn’t sit well with me

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                                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Here is the full list. Norris should be playing too, unless he is the reason Bower was called in.

                                547657592_1331933538597188_5218683354548552181_n.jpg

                                Leicester has made a couple of nice cameos in his few games for Ta$man so far.

                                Few boomfah moments and a lovely long pass to put a guy in for a try against Canterbury.

                                Certainly more impact than we have been getting from ALB recently.

                                > I don't see the harm in switching him in for ALB, who IMHO is cooked

                                The fact he could theoretically get 100 test caps doesn’t sit well with me

                                The corporate walahs think it will make great telly....

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                                  Ok I read enough of Jane's explanations to think he'd make a useful AB skills coach.

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                                    If SB has lower back issues that explains quite a bit, and possibly some of the scrum issues. No lock should be playing in the ABs with lower back frailties.

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                                      Ok I read enough of Jane's explanations to think he'd make a useful AB skills coach.

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                                      @nostrildamus even if he isn't, his insight is going to be superior to what we have currently which looks like maybe chucking up a few bombs for the lads to catch uncontested.

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                                        Wasn't Itoje gen clapping after the ref had awarded the pen or knock on etc?

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                                          If SB has lower back issues that explains quite a bit, and possibly some of the scrum issues. No lock should be playing in the ABs with lower back frailties.

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                                          @nostrildamus
                                          Funny you say that - I was at the game and SB spent a lot of time stretching his back and legs on his own - he also didn't look to me that he was running that freely.

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