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All Blacks v Argentina I

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    If Scooter is fully fit then he will play. But I would like us to get used to playing with more size which I think is the goal. So for me it’s Patty T on the bench even with Vaa’i at 6.

    We didn’t see it against France and I think available personnel influenced it but I still think a 6/2 is on the cards at some point in this RC.

    My ideal bench is:

    Hooker
    LHP
    THP
    Lock
    Big loosie
    Quick breakdown attacking loosie
    Halfback
    Back 10/15 type.

    Ardie covering 12

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    Ardie covering 12

    You been on The Fern long?

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      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

      Ardie covering 12

      You been on The Fern long?

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      @booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

      Ardie covering 12

      You been on The Fern long?

      I’m new around here and guess what I just discovered chrome last week

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      • Mr FishM Mr Fish

        @booboo Hey you copied my homework.

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        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

        @booboo Hey you copied my homework.

        Appears I did.

        But making some minor changes:

        16 Taukei'aho
        17 Norris
        18 Tosi
        19 Tuipolutu
        20 ParkerFinau
        21 Christie
        22 Beaudie/DMac
        22 Tupaea Tavatavanawai (I googled ... )

        Parker staying back for NPC, so perhaps gets a go in second game.

        Jim is a closer match for Jordie at 12 while covering wing. Rieko (googled) covers 13.

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          My 23:

          1 - EDG
          2 - Codie Taylor
          3 - Newell
          4 - Scooter
          5 - Vaa’i
          6 - Finau
          7 - Kirifi
          8 - Savea

          9 - Ratima
          10 -DMac
          11 - Ioane
          12 - Jordie
          13 - Proctor
          14 - Jordan
          15 - BB

          Bench Norris/Sami/Tosi/Sititi/Lock/Christie/Tupea/Narewa

          Locks tricky. If Sccoter hundy he starts at 4. Otherwise Patty T.

          Vaa’i or Holland at 5, both can play 80.

          But I want impact at 55. For me Patty T is ideal for that. At some point we should try Holland coming on for 30 minutes of hard yards. Useful to have another impact option.

          One option is play Vaa’i for 55, at which point he moves to 6.

          Working out the best approach to 4/5/6 should be a big objective in Pumas matches.

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          • P pakman

            My 23:

            1 - EDG
            2 - Codie Taylor
            3 - Newell
            4 - Scooter
            5 - Vaa’i
            6 - Finau
            7 - Kirifi
            8 - Savea

            9 - Ratima
            10 -DMac
            11 - Ioane
            12 - Jordie
            13 - Proctor
            14 - Jordan
            15 - BB

            Bench Norris/Sami/Tosi/Sititi/Lock/Christie/Tupea/Narewa

            Locks tricky. If Sccoter hundy he starts at 4. Otherwise Patty T.

            Vaa’i or Holland at 5, both can play 80.

            But I want impact at 55. For me Patty T is ideal for that. At some point we should try Holland coming on for 30 minutes of hard yards. Useful to have another impact option.

            One option is play Vaa’i for 55, at which point he moves to 6.

            Working out the best approach to 4/5/6 should be a big objective in Pumas matches.

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            @pakman

            Leaving out Holland while starting Kirifi, not playing the best blindside from the French series in that position and asking him to move there from lock once he’s fatigued all seems off to me.

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              There is scope for some mild experimentation in Pumas tests.

              That is tempered by fitness.

              If everyone was 100, in one of the tests I’d like to see Holland & Barrett start, Vaa’i at 6 and Patty T storming on at 55/60.

              Also like to see how Holland does coming off the bench.

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                • P pakman

                  There is scope for some mild experimentation in Pumas tests.

                  That is tempered by fitness.

                  If everyone was 100, in one of the tests I’d like to see Holland & Barrett start, Vaa’i at 6 and Patty T storming on at 55/60.

                  Also like to see how Holland does coming off the bench.

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                  @pakman yeah, I like PT and TV on at the same time, those two with Holland could be a great combination.

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                    I'd go with something like:

                    1. De Groot
                    2. Taylor
                    3. Newell
                    4. S Barrett (c)
                    5. Holland
                    6. Vaa'i
                    7. Savea
                    8. Sititi
                    9. Ratima
                    10. B. Barrett
                    11. R. Ioane
                    12. J. Barrett
                    13. B. Proctor
                    14. W. Jordan
                    15. R. Love

                    1. Taukei'aho
                    2. Norris
                    3. Tosi
                    4. Tuipolutu
                    5. Lakai
                    6. Preston
                    7. DMac
                    8. Tavatavanawai
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                      Lakai will be in second test 23. Kirifi to get first test gig.

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                        Lakai will be in second test 23. Kirifi to get first test gig.

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                        @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                        Lakai will be in second test 23. Kirifi to get first test gig.

                        Yeah I agree. Lakai only got on a plane to Argentina today so he won’t play the first test.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                          Lakai will be in second test 23. Kirifi to get first test gig.

                          Yeah I agree. Lakai only got on a plane to Argentina today so he won’t play the first test.

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                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                          @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                          Lakai will be in second test 23. Kirifi to get first test gig.

                          Yeah I agree. Lakai only got on a plane to Argentina today so he won’t play the first test.

                          Yep likewise with Parker I guessing, if he gets run will be off bench in 2nd test.

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                            Any odds out there?

                            Can’t see Argentina putting up much of a fight based on the English tour

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                              Any odds out there?

                              Can’t see Argentina putting up much of a fight based on the English tour

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                              @MiketheSnow

                              https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-championship/argentina-v-new-zealand/winner

                              Argentina did beat the Lions and have beaten the All Blacks twice in recent year. Dangerous opponents.

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                                https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-championship/argentina-v-new-zealand/winner

                                Argentina did beat the Lions and have beaten the All Blacks twice in recent year. Dangerous opponents.

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                                @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                                @MiketheSnow

                                https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-championship/argentina-v-new-zealand/winner

                                Argentina did beat the Lions and have beaten the All Blacks twice in recent year. Dangerous opponents.

                                And lost a home series to England B

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                                  @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                                  @MiketheSnow

                                  https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-championship/argentina-v-new-zealand/winner

                                  Argentina did beat the Lions and have beaten the All Blacks twice in recent year. Dangerous opponents.

                                  And lost a home series to England B

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                                  @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                                  @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                                  @MiketheSnow

                                  https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-championship/argentina-v-new-zealand/winner

                                  Argentina did beat the Lions and have beaten the All Blacks twice in recent year. Dangerous opponents.

                                  And lost a home series to England B

                                  A bit like the French, on their day the Argies can beat anyone. We will have to be on our game.

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                                    @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                                    @MiketheSnow

                                    https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-championship/argentina-v-new-zealand/winner

                                    Argentina did beat the Lions and have beaten the All Blacks twice in recent year. Dangerous opponents.

                                    And lost a home series to England B

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                                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                                    @MiketheSnow

                                    https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-championship/argentina-v-new-zealand/winner

                                    Argentina did beat the Lions and have beaten the All Blacks twice in recent year. Dangerous opponents.

                                    And lost a home series to England B

                                    Was it Argentina's top team?

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                                      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                                      @MiketheSnow

                                      https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-championship/argentina-v-new-zealand/winner

                                      Argentina did beat the Lions and have beaten the All Blacks twice in recent year. Dangerous opponents.

                                      And lost a home series to England B

                                      Was it Argentina's top team?

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                                      @akan004 said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                                      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

                                      @MiketheSnow

                                      https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-championship/argentina-v-new-zealand/winner

                                      Argentina did beat the Lions and have beaten the All Blacks twice in recent year. Dangerous opponents.

                                      And lost a home series to England B

                                      Was it Argentina's top team?

                                      No it wasn’t they had all their players who play in France out, they are all back for the RC.

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                                        Then look out NZ

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                                          From Stuff:

                                          All Blacks No 8 Wallace Sititi will miss the Rugby Championship opener against Argentina in Cordoba on Sunday (NZT). Sititi is still recovering from ankle surgery that saw him miss the 3-0 series win against France in New Zealand July. All Blacks coach Scott Robertson confirmed news of Sititi’s delayed comeback from Argentina on Tuesday morning.

                                          If Parker and Lakai are late arrivals that almost guarantees Savea will start at no.8.

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