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All Blacks v Argentina II

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    Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
    Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

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      CLW has done very little wrong, pretty sure he is next cab off the rank should there be anymore injuries.

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      • FrankF Frank

        Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
        Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

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        @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
        Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

        Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

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          @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
          Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

          Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

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          @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
          Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

          Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350230380/highlanders-bulldozer-timoci-tavatavanawai-reveals-test-goal

          The powerful 26-year-old known as Big Jim spent two fruitful years with Moana Pasifika, putting fear into the hearts of Super Rugby defenders with his robust running style.

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            @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
            Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

            Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

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            @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
            Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

            Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

            Isn't DMac, DMac?

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            • canefanC canefan

              @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
              Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

              Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

              Isn't DMac, DMac?

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              @canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              Isn't DMac, DMac?

              Only to fans. The nicknames I've heard players/coaches use are Damo and Slim.

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              • canefanC canefan

                @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
                Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

                Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                Isn't DMac, DMac?

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                @canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
                Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

                Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                Isn't DMac, DMac?

                Anyone who has watched NZ rugby for more than a year or so should know that DMac's nic was always Big Jim, it's what players used to call him in interviews etc. I think it a Chiefs one for quite sometime. I have never heard Tavatanawai called Big Jim, but we see it on net , but comes from hiw nic at Ta$man where he was Jim the Difference. I know that's why some called him Big Jim, because it was easier etc and probably just changed from the Ta$man one. (and I called him Big Jim by mistake on an Auusie rugby site, and Aussies all jumped on me reminding me who the original Big Jim is)

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                  i feel like im being gas lit, ive never heard DMac called Jim/big jim....but Tavatavanawai had a thing on the Highlanders socials when he was named captain saying Jim/Big Jim was his nickname

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                    i feel like im being gas lit, ive never heard DMac called Jim/big jim....but Tavatavanawai had a thing on the Highlanders socials when he was named captain saying Jim/Big Jim was his nickname

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                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    i feel like im being gas lit, ive never heard DMac called Jim/big jim....but Tavatavanawai had a thing on the Highlanders socials when he was named captain saying Jim/Big Jim was his nickname

                    If Dan wasn't so straight up I'd assume he was taking the piss

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      i feel like im being gas lit, ive never heard DMac called Jim/big jim....but Tavatavanawai had a thing on the Highlanders socials when he was named captain saying Jim/Big Jim was his nickname

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                      @Kiwiwomble I think I have some vague memory of hearing/seeing it years ago, but definitely didn't stick and never heard or seen it since until now.... after half a year of TT being referred to as Jim.

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                        @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
                        Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

                        Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

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                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                        If it wasn't for the characteristic typo I would have guessed this was an AI-takeover.

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            i feel like im being gas lit, ive never heard DMac called Jim/big jim....but Tavatavanawai had a thing on the Highlanders socials when he was named captain saying Jim/Big Jim was his nickname

                            If Dan wasn't so straight up I'd assume he was taking the piss

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                            @canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            i feel like im being gas lit, ive never heard DMac called Jim/big jim....but Tavatavanawai had a thing on the Highlanders socials when he was named captain saying Jim/Big Jim was his nickname

                            If Dan wasn't so straight up I'd assume he was taking the piss

                            Dan is right. Grok confirms it.

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                              I kind of be a little surprised if Sititi starts, coming back from injury, and hasn't quite looked real world beater during Super this year (although he was good). Think they may just bring him in slowly. But of course in me suggesting that they may do exact opposite. :face_with_tongue:

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                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              I kind of be a little surprised if Sititi starts, coming back from injury, and hasn't quite looked real world beater during Super this year (although he was good). Think they may just bring him in slowly. But of course in me suggesting that they may do exact opposite. :face_with_tongue:

                              Nailed on starter now Danny!

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                                @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @antipodean I don't disagree but I can't see Savea being subbed off or starting on the bench any time soon.

                                Unfortunately neither can I, and the All Blacks are the worse for it.

                                What the fuck are U talking about. Ardie is world class. He has proved himself time after time for years .

                                At hitting rucks? Putting in a hard shoulder that turns into a dominant tackle others can driver through to win a turnover?

                                Or are we talking about seagulling to carry a ball, often with defenders hanging off him with the resulting slow ruck clearance for the next phase? Chip kicks from 10m out of our own line? His abysmal defensive reads? His low effort in running back into the defensive line? His giving up metres in defence trying to scrag players to the deck in the hope he gets a turnover?

                                He looks all the world a back that's been asked to play in the forwards.

                                Or maybe I'm wrong and his highlight reel clearly puts me back in my box.

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                                @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @antipodean I don't disagree but I can't see Savea being subbed off or starting on the bench any time soon.

                                Unfortunately neither can I, and the All Blacks are the worse for it.

                                What the fuck are U talking about. Ardie is world class. He has proved himself time after time for years .

                                At hitting rucks? Putting in a hard shoulder that turns into a dominant tackle others can driver through to win a turnover?

                                Or are we talking about seagulling to carry a ball, often with defenders hanging off him with the resulting slow ruck clearance for the next phase? Chip kicks from 10m out of our own line? His abysmal defensive reads? His low effort in running back into the defensive line? His giving up metres in defence trying to scrag players to the deck in the hope he gets a turnover?

                                He looks all the world a back that's been asked to play in the forwards.

                                Or maybe I'm wrong and his highlight reel clearly puts me back in my box.

                                Obviously all the experts including the ones that chose him as world player of the year are wrong and all the "experts" on here are right. I stand corrected.

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                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @antipodean I don't disagree but I can't see Savea being subbed off or starting on the bench any time soon.

                                  Unfortunately neither can I, and the All Blacks are the worse for it.

                                  What the fuck are U talking about. Ardie is world class. He has proved himself time after time for years .

                                  At hitting rucks? Putting in a hard shoulder that turns into a dominant tackle others can driver through to win a turnover?

                                  Or are we talking about seagulling to carry a ball, often with defenders hanging off him with the resulting slow ruck clearance for the next phase? Chip kicks from 10m out of our own line? His abysmal defensive reads? His low effort in running back into the defensive line? His giving up metres in defence trying to scrag players to the deck in the hope he gets a turnover?

                                  He looks all the world a back that's been asked to play in the forwards.

                                  Or maybe I'm wrong and his highlight reel clearly puts me back in my box.

                                  Obviously all the experts including the ones that chose him as world player of the year are wrong and all the "experts" on here are right. I stand corrected.

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                                  @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @antipodean I don't disagree but I can't see Savea being subbed off or starting on the bench any time soon.

                                  Unfortunately neither can I, and the All Blacks are the worse for it.

                                  What the fuck are U talking about. Ardie is world class. He has proved himself time after time for years .

                                  At hitting rucks? Putting in a hard shoulder that turns into a dominant tackle others can driver through to win a turnover?

                                  Or are we talking about seagulling to carry a ball, often with defenders hanging off him with the resulting slow ruck clearance for the next phase? Chip kicks from 10m out of our own line? His abysmal defensive reads? His low effort in running back into the defensive line? His giving up metres in defence trying to scrag players to the deck in the hope he gets a turnover?

                                  He looks all the world a back that's been asked to play in the forwards.

                                  Or maybe I'm wrong and his highlight reel clearly puts me back in my box.

                                  Obviously all the experts including the ones that chose him as world player of the year are wrong and all the "experts" on here are right. I stand corrected.

                                  I'm not sure you're aware of the process, but the rugby loving community vote on the nominees. The same people getting all excited over the highlight reel...

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @antipodean I don't disagree but I can't see Savea being subbed off or starting on the bench any time soon.

                                    Unfortunately neither can I, and the All Blacks are the worse for it.

                                    What the fuck are U talking about. Ardie is world class. He has proved himself time after time for years .

                                    At hitting rucks? Putting in a hard shoulder that turns into a dominant tackle others can driver through to win a turnover?

                                    Or are we talking about seagulling to carry a ball, often with defenders hanging off him with the resulting slow ruck clearance for the next phase? Chip kicks from 10m out of our own line? His abysmal defensive reads? His low effort in running back into the defensive line? His giving up metres in defence trying to scrag players to the deck in the hope he gets a turnover?

                                    He looks all the world a back that's been asked to play in the forwards.

                                    Or maybe I'm wrong and his highlight reel clearly puts me back in my box.

                                    Obviously all the experts including the ones that chose him as world player of the year are wrong and all the "experts" on here are right. I stand corrected.

                                    I'm not sure you're aware of the process, but the rugby loving community vote on the nominees. The same people getting all excited over the highlight reel...

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                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @antipodean I don't disagree but I can't see Savea being subbed off or starting on the bench any time soon.

                                    Unfortunately neither can I, and the All Blacks are the worse for it.

                                    What the fuck are U talking about. Ardie is world class. He has proved himself time after time for years .

                                    At hitting rucks? Putting in a hard shoulder that turns into a dominant tackle others can driver through to win a turnover?

                                    Or are we talking about seagulling to carry a ball, often with defenders hanging off him with the resulting slow ruck clearance for the next phase? Chip kicks from 10m out of our own line? His abysmal defensive reads? His low effort in running back into the defensive line? His giving up metres in defence trying to scrag players to the deck in the hope he gets a turnover?

                                    He looks all the world a back that's been asked to play in the forwards.

                                    Or maybe I'm wrong and his highlight reel clearly puts me back in my box.

                                    Obviously all the experts including the ones that chose him as world player of the year are wrong and all the "experts" on here are right. I stand corrected.

                                    I'm not sure you're aware of the process, but the rugby loving community vote on the nominees. The same people getting all excited over the highlight reel...

                                    I don't want to get into this Savea slugfest but Wilson, Muliaina, Turunui and other ex-internationals have rated him highly. Very highly.

                                    And some guy called Joe Schmidt:
                                    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/joe-schmidt-weighs-into-all-blacks-hot-topic-after-ardie-savea-produces-best-ever-super-rugby-performance/ar-AA1F4A7H
                                    "“Because Ardie is so dynamic off the back of the scrum, that’s great. He’s so destructive as a defender when he’s coming off seven.

                                    “People probably underestimate how good he is in the lineout, he’s actually so quick because he’s so explosive – he’s a very good option. There’s not a lot he can’t do.”"

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                                      Always called Dmac Big Jim as everyone has called him that in interviews for years. Don't know how the hell TT is being attributed that name now.

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                                        @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @antipodean I don't disagree but I can't see Savea being subbed off or starting on the bench any time soon.

                                        Unfortunately neither can I, and the All Blacks are the worse for it.

                                        What the fuck are U talking about. Ardie is world class. He has proved himself time after time for years .

                                        At hitting rucks? Putting in a hard shoulder that turns into a dominant tackle others can driver through to win a turnover?

                                        Or are we talking about seagulling to carry a ball, often with defenders hanging off him with the resulting slow ruck clearance for the next phase? Chip kicks from 10m out of our own line? His abysmal defensive reads? His low effort in running back into the defensive line? His giving up metres in defence trying to scrag players to the deck in the hope he gets a turnover?

                                        He looks all the world a back that's been asked to play in the forwards.

                                        Or maybe I'm wrong and his highlight reel clearly puts me back in my box.

                                        Obviously all the experts including the ones that chose him as world player of the year are wrong and all the "experts" on here are right. I stand corrected.

                                        I'm not sure you're aware of the process, but the rugby loving community vote on the nominees. The same people getting all excited over the highlight reel...

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                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        @antipodean I don't disagree but I can't see Savea being subbed off or starting on the bench any time soon.

                                        Unfortunately neither can I, and the All Blacks are the worse for it.

                                        What the fuck are U talking about. Ardie is world class. He has proved himself time after time for years .

                                        At hitting rucks? Putting in a hard shoulder that turns into a dominant tackle others can driver through to win a turnover?

                                        Or are we talking about seagulling to carry a ball, often with defenders hanging off him with the resulting slow ruck clearance for the next phase? Chip kicks from 10m out of our own line? His abysmal defensive reads? His low effort in running back into the defensive line? His giving up metres in defence trying to scrag players to the deck in the hope he gets a turnover?

                                        He looks all the world a back that's been asked to play in the forwards.

                                        Or maybe I'm wrong and his highlight reel clearly puts me back in my box.

                                        Obviously all the experts including the ones that chose him as world player of the year are wrong and all the "experts" on here are right. I stand corrected.

                                        I'm not sure you're aware of the process, but the rugby loving community vote on the nominees. The same people getting all excited over the highlight reel...

                                        This is why I shouldn't even bother with this. Here is a link to the voting panel for the world Rugby player of the year.

                                        https://www.world.rugby/tournaments/awards/voting-panel.

                                        Here is the one for the mens.

                                        World Rugby Men’s 15s Player of the Year

                                        Jacques Burger (NAM)
                                        Fiona Coghlan (IRE)
                                        Victor Matfield (RSA)
                                        Drew Mitchell (AUS)
                                        Ugo Monye (ENG)
                                        Sergio Parrise (ITA)
                                        Kieran Read (NZL)
                                        Blaine Scully (USA)

                                        Criteria: This award is open to all men’s 15s players who have played more than one year of international rugby. Voting is assessed on international test match performances. Club rugby is not recognized.

                                        Facts matter!!

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                                          The backs need another spin. My only change in starters would be to give Carter, or more probably, Narawa a shot instead of Reece.

                                          Tupaea or more likely Tim for midfield replacement.

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