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All Blacks v Argentina II

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    @Tordah said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Don't think I've seen a worse performance under the high ball since sliced bread, which was a pretty bad catcher.

    I don’t know. Henry completely changed his back 3 because of high ball weakness. But ABs look v vulnerable under the contestable high ball and the Boks will be licking their lips on that.

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    @stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Tordah said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Don't think I've seen a worse performance under the high ball since sliced bread, which was a pretty bad catcher.

    I don’t know. Henry completely changed his back 3 because of high ball weakness. But ABs look v vulnerable under the contestable high ball and the Boks will be licking their lips on that.

    Gee I wonder what the Boks will do vs us.

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    • S stodders

      @Tordah said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      Don't think I've seen a worse performance under the high ball since sliced bread, which was a pretty bad catcher.

      I don’t know. Henry completely changed his back 3 because of high ball weakness. But ABs look v vulnerable under the contestable high ball and the Boks will be licking their lips on that.

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      @stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @Tordah said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      Don't think I've seen a worse performance under the high ball since sliced bread, which was a pretty bad catcher.

      I don’t know. Henry completely changed his back 3 because of high ball weakness. But ABs look v vulnerable under the contestable high ball and the Boks will be licking their lips on that.

      Where's Clarke at? He is good under the high ball.

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        Meanwhile we cross live to Hamilton and Sunday morning brunch at Ian Foster’s home.

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          Yellow cards killed the ABs today. And the 2 in the 1st half were low IQ plays, especially when TMOs are as invasive as they are nowadays.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

            Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

            Why shouldn’t it be Savea? Some of our best performances under Razor have been when Ardie’s been skip.

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            @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

            Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

            Why isn’t it Savea? Some of our best performances under Razor have been when Ardie’s been skip.

            The rot in this team has been around for a while and Savea is part of it. Someone relatively new would be nice

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              ******* pissed off. Worst Ab's performance in the last 30 years. Couldn't catch a cold. Just pathetic.

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              • jimmybJ jimmyb

                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

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                @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

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                  SB good player, good man but not suited to captaincy.
                  Savea should be captain

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                    Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                    Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                    Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                    Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

                    Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

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                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                      Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

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                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                      Yet he was the best lock in the country when the decision was made. He had surpassed Retallick and Whitelock as the first choice lock in the 2023 season. 2024 he is selected as captain.

                      Sure, question some of the decision making on the field, but let’s not rewrite history about where his play was when the decision was actually made.

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                        Razor needs to stop man-managing and actually coach (if he can). Or get out.

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                          Sack Razor right now. Have seen enough. He's been in charge for a year and half and we have not seen one complete performance under his watch. Where's the improvement? We can see it with Joe and the Wallabies, but we are going backwards under Razor.

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                          • jimmybJ jimmyb

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                            Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                            Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

                            Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

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                            @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                            Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                            Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

                            Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

                            At least give him a go to find out

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                              MacDazzler
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                              Our backline were dreadful and Holland is a dud coach. I mean he was ordinary as the Canes coach.

                              Discipline also shocking.

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                              • LagerLoutL LagerLout

                                ******* pissed off. Worst Ab's performance in the last 30 years. Couldn't catch a cold. Just pathetic.

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                                stodders
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                                @LagerLout short memories here. I can remember a couple of stinkers against Argentina in NZ that would trump this one. This Argentina side is a better one than the ones that beat NZ in NZ.

                                NZ weren’t good enough against what is, on their day, a very good Argentina team.

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                                • jimmybJ jimmyb

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                                  Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                                  Why isn’t it Savea? Some of our best performances under Razor have been when Ardie’s been skip.

                                  The rot in this team has been around for a while and Savea is part of it. Someone relatively new would be nice

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                                  Canes4life
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                                  @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                                  Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                                  Why isn’t it Savea? Some of our best performances under Razor have been when Ardie’s been skip.

                                  The rot in this team has been around for a while and Savea is part of it. Someone relatively new would be nice

                                  Savea is the obvious choice. He’s got the backing of most of the players, not sure Barrett does as captain tbh.

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                                    We are stuck with Razor til 2027 regardless of results. Time to accept it.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                                      Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                                      Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

                                      Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

                                      At least give him a go to find out

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

                                      Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

                                      Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

                                      Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

                                      At least give him a go to find out

                                      He’s been in the leadership group for 8-9 years. He frequently finishes the match as captain. He clearly doesn’t make much of a difference. Different voices are needed ASAP. The old heads are not going to do it

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                                        DMX
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                                        I put a lot of this on Razor, in what world is our back 3 better than any other in the rugby championship?

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                                          Sititi and Roigard will make a big difference
                                          Time for DMac to start

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