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All Blacks v Argentina II

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    Frank
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    #968

    Before the French series Razor was asked his biggest regret from last season.
    He said he was too conservative and risk-averse (I am guessing in relation to the picking of reliable journeymen).
    I see no evidence he has changed.

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      These stats are not good viewing. How the score is that close beggars belief.

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      @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      These stats are not good viewing. How the score is that close beggars belief.

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      That's atrocious

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @antipodean when we are down in the rightt part of the field our strike rate to score is excellent if not the best in the world. Problem is we play too much footy in our own half.

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        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        @antipodean when we are down in the rightt part of the field our strike rate to score is excellent if not the best in the world. Problem is we play too much footy in our own half.

        It's no surprise we can't play in the right end of the field considering we can't kick or deal with high balls.

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        • boobooB booboo

          @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          What happened to Ratima?

          Ribs by the looks of it .... someone landed on him

          From when he dropped that pass from Vaa’i off the lineout

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          @booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          What happened to Ratima?

          Ribs by the looks of it .... someone landed on him

          From when he dropped that pass from Vaa’i off the lineout

          From being tackled by a player penalised for being well offside.

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          • Landers92L Landers92

            @booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            13 all 33 mins

            Along with 13 all blacks on the field. This discipline is going to cost us big time in much more important games if we don’t get this sorted

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            @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            13 all 33 mins

            Along with 13 all blacks on the field. This discipline is going to cost us big time in much more important games if we don’t get this sorted

            Outside of World Cups and Lions Tours, Rugby Championship games are as important as they get.

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              @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              13 all 33 mins

              Along with 13 all blacks on the field. This discipline is going to cost us big time in much more important games if we don’t get this sorted

              Outside of World Cups and Lions Tours, Rugby Championship games are as important as they get.

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              Grooter
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              @WoodysRFC also need to hold onto our Eden park fortress streak which won't be easy we've got two Tests there next month

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              • GrooterG Grooter

                @WoodysRFC also need to hold onto our Eden park fortress streak which won't be easy we've got two Tests there next month

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                akan004
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                @Grooter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @WoodysRFC also need to hold onto our Eden park fortress streak which won't be easy we've got two Tests there next month

                I will be very surprised if we even win one of the two games against SA. Really can't see it happening especially given who we have out. Will probably beat Australia at home and retain the Bledisloe as they seem to have a mental block against us whenever they play in NZ.

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                  @Grooter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @WoodysRFC also need to hold onto our Eden park fortress streak which won't be easy we've got two Tests there next month

                  I will be very surprised if we even win one of the two games against SA. Really can't see it happening especially given who we have out. Will probably beat Australia at home and retain the Bledisloe as they seem to have a mental block against us whenever they play in NZ.

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                  @akan004 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Grooter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @WoodysRFC also need to hold onto our Eden park fortress streak which won't be easy we've got two Tests there next month

                  I will be very surprised if we even win one of the two games against SA. Really can't see it happening especially given who we have out. Will probably beat Australia at home and retain the Bledisloe as they seem to have a mental block whenever they come to NZ and never play to their potential.

                  Given who we have out? Who are these missing magical players? Roigard, Patty T? Please don't say Mo'unga!

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                  • FrankF Frank

                    Before the French series Razor was asked his biggest regret from last season.
                    He said he was too conservative and risk-averse (I am guessing in relation to the picking of reliable journeymen).
                    I see no evidence he has changed.

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                    @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    Before the French series Razor was asked his biggest regret was from last season.
                    He said he was too conservative and risk-averse (I am guessing in relation to the picking of reliable journeymen).
                    I see no evidence he has changed.

                    That's just not true though. We've got different guys out there than last year but, the big issue we face, which bites us every so often, is that we don't have a good enough first five.

                    McKenzie is not it, Barrett is not it, but they are the best we have. Without a good first five, you won't consistently grind down and win tests.

                    We could do with some fresh blood on the wing, but I'm not sure that changes much.

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      @akan004 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @Grooter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @WoodysRFC also need to hold onto our Eden park fortress streak which won't be easy we've got two Tests there next month

                      I will be very surprised if we even win one of the two games against SA. Really can't see it happening especially given who we have out. Will probably beat Australia at home and retain the Bledisloe as they seem to have a mental block whenever they come to NZ and never play to their potential.

                      Given who we have out? Who are these missing magical players? Roigard, Patty T? Please don't say Mo'unga!

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                      akan004
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                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @akan004 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @Grooter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      @WoodysRFC also need to hold onto our Eden park fortress streak which won't be easy we've got two Tests there next month

                      I will be very surprised if we even win one of the two games against SA. Really can't see it happening especially given who we have out. Will probably beat Australia at home and retain the Bledisloe as they seem to have a mental block whenever they come to NZ and never play to their potential.

                      Given who we have out? Who are these missing magical players? Roigard, Patty T? Please don't say Mo'unga!

                      Roigard, Patty T, Lomax and Clarke (best wing in NZ under the high ball). I didn't think that we would beat them even with our strongest team, but without those players I don't think we will even come close.

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                        Let's just calm the Fuck down, the truth is out there the Coaching group just won't and don't want to see it.

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                          Let's just calm the Fuck down, the truth is out there the Coaching group just won't and don't want to see it.

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                          ACT Crusader
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                          @george33 I agree. Would’ve won if we had Havili, Blackadder, Ennor, Reihana, Grace and Fihaki out there.

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            @george33 I agree. Would’ve won if we had Havili, Blackadder, Ennor, Reihana, Grace and Fihaki out there.

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                            george33
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                            @ACT-Crusader well maybe better than quite a few out there today

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                              Wow

                              Fair play Argies

                              4 wins against the ABs since 2020

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                Wow

                                Fair play Argies

                                4 wins against the ABs since 2020

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                                brodean
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                                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                Wow

                                Fair play Argies

                                4 wins against the ABs since 2020

                                At least Foster only let them win every other year.

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                                  Riley Higgins

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                                    nostrildamus
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                                    I've been intimating for quite a few games that Reece is a short track bully. If he gets picked again I hope he proves me wrong.

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      A bit more anger and a bit less hurt feelings from Razor would be comforting to see.

                                      He doesn't even seem angry that we received three yellow cards, instead responding that they'll have to have a look at the interpretation from the referee. How about not permitting the referee to be able to contemplate it?

                                      What's wrong with stating the performance wasn't acceptable?

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                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      they'll have to have a look at the interpretation from the referee

                                      Fucking outrageous comment. I don't think there was any fucking doubt as to the "interpretation" of ANY of those cards. It was just dumb actions on our part every fucking time. The insinuation that a different ref on the day.... fuck off. What a fluffybunny, more and more looking like he is out of his depth.

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                                        canefan
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                                        Our general lack of intelligence is hugely concerning

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                                          zedsdeadbaby
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                                          #987

                                          This is a big test of Razor - time to be ruthless, because he hasn’t been until this point. I don’t really care if you have to drop a whole lot of players now or debut players against the WCs in a fortnight - sort it out.

                                          Today was another missed opportunity selection wise - I would have looked at 6-2 potentially today to give it a go, Carter too.

                                          Players have become too comfortable in this environment. We play a lot of dumb rugby and if you keep rewarding those who are playing it, you get more dumb rugby.

                                          I will say we have quite clearly missed Roigard the last 2 games - he’s class and it’s a clear drop to the next level.

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