All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I
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I'm caught in two minds here. On the one hand, I do think that is more or less the best available 23. On the other hand, I think only dropping DMac and Kirifi from that shambles feels too generous. Granted there is a couple back from injury, but I think you could make a reasonable argument that Lomax, Sititi, B Barrett, J Barrett, Proctor, Williams & Newell also could have paid the price.
Would have been a strong statement to leave out a few more, but the pressure Razor is under probably means he can't take a long-term shot like that.
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'm caught in two minds here. On the one hand, I do think that is more or less the best available 23. On the other hand, I think only dropping DMac and Kirifi from that shambles feels too generous. Granted there is a couple back from injury, but I think you could make a reasonable argument that Lomax, Sititi, B Barrett, J Barrett, Proctor, Williams & Newell also could have paid the price.
Would have been a strong statement to leave out a few more, but the pressure Razor is under probably means he can't take a long-term shot like that.
McKenzie is still in the 23, so that 6 tries to 1 drubbing is rightly all laid at the feet of the bench loosie.
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@frugby that myth of dmac guy has the exact same other 22 players, only thing that differs is Fabian not in the 23 at all so I guess Scott was injured as late as yesterday maybe
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BB will probably look ok against a passive Wallaby defence, as will a few others. This test will paper over the cracks and tell us very little.
@akan004 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
BB will probably look ok against a passive Wallaby defence, as will a few others. This test will paper over the cracks and tell us very little.
By that logic, the Wallabies defeating the Boks and Pumas has told us very little about the Boks, Pumas and Wallabies?
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@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'm caught in two minds here. On the one hand, I do think that is more or less the best available 23. On the other hand, I think only dropping DMac and Kirifi from that shambles feels too generous. Granted there is a couple back from injury, but I think you could make a reasonable argument that Lomax, Sititi, B Barrett, J Barrett, Proctor, Williams & Newell also could have paid the price.
Would have been a strong statement to leave out a few more, but the pressure Razor is under probably means he can't take a long-term shot like that.
McKenzie is still in the 23, so that 6 tries to 1 drubbing is rightly all laid at the feet of the bench loosie.
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'm caught in two minds here. On the one hand, I do think that is more or less the best available 23. On the other hand, I think only dropping DMac and Kirifi from that shambles feels too generous. Granted there is a couple back from injury, but I think you could make a reasonable argument that Lomax, Sititi, B Barrett, J Barrett, Proctor, Williams & Newell also could have paid the price.
Would have been a strong statement to leave out a few more, but the pressure Razor is under probably means he can't take a long-term shot like that.
McKenzie is still in the 23, so that 6 tries to 1 drubbing is rightly all laid at the feet of the bench loosie.
We can also pin it on the halfbacks…..
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Is Lakai selection more of a reaction to our implosion in the final 20 when the bench guys came on or has he just not been 100% fit until now?
I just don't understand why Kirifi was getting picked over him for so long when Lakai's ceiling is higher, he's 22 vs Kirifi 28 and he's 110kg vs Kirifi 103kg.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'm caught in two minds here. On the one hand, I do think that is more or less the best available 23. On the other hand, I think only dropping DMac and Kirifi from that shambles feels too generous. Granted there is a couple back from injury, but I think you could make a reasonable argument that Lomax, Sititi, B Barrett, J Barrett, Proctor, Williams & Newell also could have paid the price.
Would have been a strong statement to leave out a few more, but the pressure Razor is under probably means he can't take a long-term shot like that.
McKenzie is still in the 23, so that 6 tries to 1 drubbing is rightly all laid at the feet of the bench loosie.
We can also pin it on the halfbacks…..
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'm caught in two minds here. On the one hand, I do think that is more or less the best available 23. On the other hand, I think only dropping DMac and Kirifi from that shambles feels too generous. Granted there is a couple back from injury, but I think you could make a reasonable argument that Lomax, Sititi, B Barrett, J Barrett, Proctor, Williams & Newell also could have paid the price.
Would have been a strong statement to leave out a few more, but the pressure Razor is under probably means he can't take a long-term shot like that.
McKenzie is still in the 23, so that 6 tries to 1 drubbing is rightly all laid at the feet of the bench loosie.
We can also pin it on the halfbacks…..
True that, 12 cap Cam Roigard must already be significantly better than Carter and McCaw ever were if his absence results in a rout like that.
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@Grooter I love a conspiracy. Just seems all a little too convenient.
Regardless, if these guys go well this week, it will be decision time for Razor.
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Grooter I love a conspiracy. Just seems all a little too convenient.
He wasn’t moving freely in that last 10 minutes of the Boks match, was even mentioned during the game. I don’t think it’s just a shoulder either.
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This bending over backwards for Leicester Fai'anganuku better be worth it. How has a 7 test AB demanded this much attention....
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
This bending over backwards for Leicester Fai'anganuku better be worth it. How has a 7 test AB demanded this much attention....
Coz Razor
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@akan004 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
BB will probably look ok against a passive Wallaby defence, as will a few others. This test will paper over the cracks and will tell us very little.
Roigard back is a huge boost for this side. I reckon he should just skip Beauden altogether when we attack.
@Canes4life Agree with this wholeheartedly. Roigard to play a DuPont type game and be the playmaker.
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Same old shit selections win this one then get smoked in Perth.
Pattern remains the same so no chance of progression.@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Same old shit selections win this one then get smoked in Perth.
Pattern remains the same so no chance of progression.I think Cam Roigard will make a big difference if he's in decent form and is allowed to control the game like he did in his last test. I also think that Scott Barrett not being there will also make a difference but lets see.
Probably we will win and then Scott Barrett will come back for the following game and we will lose.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'm caught in two minds here. On the one hand, I do think that is more or less the best available 23. On the other hand, I think only dropping DMac and Kirifi from that shambles feels too generous. Granted there is a couple back from injury, but I think you could make a reasonable argument that Lomax, Sititi, B Barrett, J Barrett, Proctor, Williams & Newell also could have paid the price.
Would have been a strong statement to leave out a few more, but the pressure Razor is under probably means he can't take a long-term shot like that.
McKenzie is still in the 23, so that 6 tries to 1 drubbing is rightly all laid at the feet of the bench loosie.
We can also pin it on the halfbacks…..
True that, 12 cap Cam Roigard must already be significantly better than Carter and McCaw ever were if his absence results in a rout like that.
@reprobate was just thinking that it’s pretty rare that we go into back to back tests in a 3Ns / RC with two completely different sets of halfbacks.
Pumas I - Ratima / Christie
Pumas II - Ratima / Christie
Boks I - Christie / Preston
Boks II - Hotham / Christie
Wallabies I - Roigard / Ratima -
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Same old shit selections win this one then get smoked in Perth.
Pattern remains the same so no chance of progression.I think Cam Roigard will make a big difference if he's in decent form and is allowed to control the game like he did in his last test. I also think that Scott Barrett not being there will also make a difference but lets see.
Probably we will win and then Scott Barrett will come back for the following game and we will lose.
@brodean I reckon Scott's injury will linger into next week and then there will be a new squad announced for the Northern tour which he will not be able to go on due to needing more time for his shoulder to fully heal.
He will therefore do what is best for the team and stay home.
Captaincy over. -
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
This bending over backwards for Leicester Fai'anganuku better be worth it. How has a 7 test AB demanded this much attention....
Coz Razor
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@brodean I reckon Scott's injury will linger into next week and then there will be a new squad announced for the Northern tour which he will not be able to go on due to needing more time for his shoulder to fully heal.
He will therefore do what is best for the team and stay home.
Captaincy over.@Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@brodean I reckon Scott's injury will linger into next week and then there will be a new squad announced for the Northern tour which he will not be able to go on due to needing more time for his shoulder to fully heal.
He will therefore do what is best for the team and stay home.
Captaincy over.Sure. Except the new captain was strolling on defence and chipping within his own 22 in the last test.
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New captain. Is that because Barrett is injured or was he dropped?
Good to see Lakai replace Kirifi on the bench.
Clarke makes his return.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DPAVJmVErpu/?igsh=Zm82aWlzZjczNXVp
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
New captain. Is that because Barrett is injured or was he dropped?
Good to see Lakai replace Kirifi on the bench.
Clarke makes his return.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DPAVJmVErpu/?igsh=Zm82aWlzZjczNXVp
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@canefan do people actually care that much that Leicester is holding tackle bags for the ABs? The only guys in the country that should be bothered are Daniel Rona & AJ Lam
@Grooter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@canefan do people actually care that much that Leicester is holding tackle bags for the ABs? The only guys in the country that should be bothered are Daniel Rona & AJ Lam
Bailyn Sullivan would feel most aggrieved, he was a gun for the canes this season.
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@Grooter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@canefan do people actually care that much that Leicester is holding tackle bags for the ABs? The only guys in the country that should be bothered are Daniel Rona & AJ Lam
Bailyn Sullivan would feel most aggrieved, he was a gun for the canes this season.
@restofit said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Grooter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@canefan do people actually care that much that Leicester is holding tackle bags for the ABs? The only guys in the country that should be bothered are Daniel Rona & AJ Lam
Bailyn Sullivan would feel most aggrieved, he was a gun for the canes this season.
@restofit said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Grooter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@canefan do people actually care that much that Leicester is holding tackle bags for the ABs? The only guys in the country that should be bothered are Daniel Rona & AJ Lam
Bailyn Sullivan would feel most aggrieved, he was a gun for the canes this season.
Bailyn Sullivan is good for the wing but he's the worst defender of all the centre options that played in SRP this year.
