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QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki

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    Once again, it is beyond me how Fakatava is rated so poorly by our national selectors.

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    • jimmybJ jimmyb

      Jacomb isn’t the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy

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      @jimmyb said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

      Jacomb isn’t the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy

      Jacomb and Kneepkins have been absolutely schooled by McClutchie and Sullivan on how to run a backline attack.

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        @jimmyb said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

        Jacomb isn’t the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy

        Eh?

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        @ACT-Crusader said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

        @jimmyb said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

        Jacomb isn’t the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy

        Eh?

        As in the reference or did you think Jacomb was any good?

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          Jacomb reminds me a bit of Perofeta in that in wide open games he can look a million bucks but it doesnt always translate in tighter games

          I do think the hype is over the top - of course that's not his fault.

          He's still young so let's hope he continues to improve.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            Jacomb reminds me a bit of Perofeta in that in wide open games he can look a million bucks but it doesnt always translate in tighter games

            I do think the hype is over the top - of course that's not his fault.

            He's still young so let's hope he continues to improve.

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            @KiwiMurph Yep. He's a Sopoaga level talent, not say B Barrett level... that said, the All Blacks are crying out for someone of the level of Sopoaga (circa 2014-2017).

            Playing week in week out under pressure should hopefully iron out some of the kinks. Didn't think he was terrible tonight, but hard behind a pack which was going backwards.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Jacomb reminds me a bit of Perofeta in that in wide open games he can look a million bucks but it doesnt always translate in tighter games

              I do think the hype is over the top - of course that's not his fault.

              He's still young so let's hope he continues to improve.

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              @KiwiMurph said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

              Jacomb reminds me a bit of Perofeta in that in wide open games he can look a million bucks but it doesnt always translate in tighter games

              I do think the hype is over the top - of course that's not his fault.

              He's still young so let's hope he continues to improve.

              I take your point about Jacomb.

              Remember Perofeta did create that try in the first test against England last year to break the game in a tight test match

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                Last time HB kept Taranaki tryless was 1972.

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                  Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                  We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                  Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                  Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                  Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

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                  • Dan54D Dan54

                    Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                    We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                    Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                    Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                    Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

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                    @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                    Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                    We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                    Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                    Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                    Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

                    Yeah not sure what the Canes have seen in Poliko to offer him a 2 year extension.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      Jacomb reminds me a bit of Perofeta in that in wide open games he can look a million bucks but it doesnt always translate in tighter games

                      I do think the hype is over the top - of course that's not his fault.

                      He's still young so let's hope he continues to improve.

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                      @KiwiMurph said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                      Jacomb reminds me a bit of Perofeta in that in wide open games he can look a million bucks but it doesnt always translate in tighter games

                      I do think the hype is over the top - of course that's not his fault.

                      He's still young so let's hope he continues to improve.

                      Priabbaly a little more robust on both sides of the ball than SP. SP did have some silky moves though.

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                        Some bewildering performances in that lot. Naki tight forwards started well, but the lineout became a disaster.
                        Grindlay lacks vision and finesse.
                        And IWL keeps up his reputation for dumb things at crucial times.
                        Really impressed by Sam Smith, McClutchie and Sullivan, and Fomai ran hard.

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                        • Dan54D Dan54

                          Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                          We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                          Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                          Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                          Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

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                          @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                          Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                          We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                          Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                          Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                          Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

                          I dont think anyone has blamed Jacomb but he certainly didn't do himself any favours. Taranaki had good ball and were dominant for the first 20 minutes and Sullivan kicked Hawkes Bay out of trouble - something Ive never seen Jacomb do when his team are relentlessly under the pump.

                          The commentators said Hawkes Bay had made 58 tackles in the first 20 minutes and Jacomb did nothing of consequences with that ball.

                          Jacomb does not look good when his team are under pressure and he does not have the game management yet for the next level.

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                            @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                            Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                            We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                            Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                            Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                            Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

                            I dont think anyone has blamed Jacomb but he certainly didn't do himself any favours. Taranaki had good ball and were dominant for the first 20 minutes and Sullivan kicked Hawkes Bay out of trouble - something Ive never seen Jacomb do when his team are relentlessly under the pump.

                            The commentators said Hawkes Bay had made 58 tackles in the first 20 minutes and Jacomb did nothing of consequences with that ball.

                            Jacomb does not look good when his team are under pressure and he does not have the game management yet for the next level.

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                            @brodean said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                            @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                            Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                            We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                            Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                            Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                            Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

                            I dont think anyone has blamed Jacomb but he certainly didn't do himself any favours. Taranaki had good ball and were dominant for the first 20 minutes and Sullivan kicked Hawkes Bay out of trouble - something Ive never seen Jacomb do when his team are relentlessly under the pump.

                            The commentators said Hawkes Bay had made 58 tackles in the first 20 minutes and Jacomb did nothing of consequences with that ball.

                            Jacomb does not look good when his team are under pressure and he does not have the game management yet for the next level.

                            He’ll be better for it. At least he has demonstrated the ability to take on the line.

                            I’d also be shocked if Lord was anywhere near the ABs set up atm. Should be automatic in that lineout

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                              @brodean said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                              @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                              Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                              We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                              Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                              Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                              Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

                              I dont think anyone has blamed Jacomb but he certainly didn't do himself any favours. Taranaki had good ball and were dominant for the first 20 minutes and Sullivan kicked Hawkes Bay out of trouble - something Ive never seen Jacomb do when his team are relentlessly under the pump.

                              The commentators said Hawkes Bay had made 58 tackles in the first 20 minutes and Jacomb did nothing of consequences with that ball.

                              Jacomb does not look good when his team are under pressure and he does not have the game management yet for the next level.

                              He’ll be better for it. At least he has demonstrated the ability to take on the line.

                              I’d also be shocked if Lord was anywhere near the ABs set up atm. Should be automatic in that lineout

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                              @jimmyb said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                              @brodean said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                              @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                              Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                              We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                              Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                              Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                              Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

                              I dont think anyone has blamed Jacomb but he certainly didn't do himself any favours. Taranaki had good ball and were dominant for the first 20 minutes and Sullivan kicked Hawkes Bay out of trouble - something Ive never seen Jacomb do when his team are relentlessly under the pump.

                              The commentators said Hawkes Bay had made 58 tackles in the first 20 minutes and Jacomb did nothing of consequences with that ball.

                              Jacomb does not look good when his team are under pressure and he does not have the game management yet for the next level.

                              He’ll be better for it. At least he has demonstrated the ability to take on the line.

                              I’d also be shocked if Lord was anywhere near the ABs set up atm. Should be automatic in that lineout

                              Yeah that last quarter of lineout was when a player like Lord should have been dominating - especially when Hawkes Bay had a lock off the field.

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                                @jimmyb said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                                @brodean said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                                @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                                Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                                We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                                Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                                Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                                Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

                                I dont think anyone has blamed Jacomb but he certainly didn't do himself any favours. Taranaki had good ball and were dominant for the first 20 minutes and Sullivan kicked Hawkes Bay out of trouble - something Ive never seen Jacomb do when his team are relentlessly under the pump.

                                The commentators said Hawkes Bay had made 58 tackles in the first 20 minutes and Jacomb did nothing of consequences with that ball.

                                Jacomb does not look good when his team are under pressure and he does not have the game management yet for the next level.

                                He’ll be better for it. At least he has demonstrated the ability to take on the line.

                                I’d also be shocked if Lord was anywhere near the ABs set up atm. Should be automatic in that lineout

                                Yeah that last quarter of lineout was when a player like Lord should have been dominating - especially when Hawkes Bay had a lock off the field.

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                                @brodean said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                                @jimmyb said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                                @brodean said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                                @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                                Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                                We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                                Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                                Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                                Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

                                I dont think anyone has blamed Jacomb but he certainly didn't do himself any favours. Taranaki had good ball and were dominant for the first 20 minutes and Sullivan kicked Hawkes Bay out of trouble - something Ive never seen Jacomb do when his team are relentlessly under the pump.

                                The commentators said Hawkes Bay had made 58 tackles in the first 20 minutes and Jacomb did nothing of consequences with that ball.

                                Jacomb does not look good when his team are under pressure and he does not have the game management yet for the next level.

                                He’ll be better for it. At least he has demonstrated the ability to take on the line.

                                I’d also be shocked if Lord was anywhere near the ABs set up atm. Should be automatic in that lineout

                                Yeah that last quarter of lineout was when a player like Lord should have been dominating - especially when Hawkes Bay had a lock off the field.

                                I not sure why Naki seemed reluctant to call Lord too, most of year our default go to call has seemed to be Boshier.

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                                  I believe that Taranaki had the best lineout in the NPC, so those late misfires were a surprise.

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                                    I believe that Taranaki had the best lineout in the NPC, so those late misfires were a surprise.

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                                    @Bovidae Really? Feels like their lineout has been a real weak point when I have watched.

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                                      Jarrad Hoeata mentioned it in a HT interview in one of the recent games.

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                                        slaters throwing not a strength

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          I believe that Taranaki had the best lineout in the NPC, so those late misfires were a surprise.

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                                          @Bovidae said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                                          I believe that Taranaki had the best lineout in the NPC, so those late misfires were a surprise.

                                          In the earlier game this season between Naki and The Bay, the commentators were saying that Naki had a 100% lineout performance so far during the season

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