All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
This is the kind of meme I’d expect @Virgil to post
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Landers92 Over the years there's been various media people who have posted here and confirmed that quite a few other media people are lurkers.
Can they man up and start calling for Savea and Barrett to be dropped?
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Landers92 Over the years there's been various media people who have posted here and confirmed that quite a few other media people are lurkers.
Can they man up and start calling for Savea and Barrett to be dropped?
Big bros form fell off a cliff and he was jettisoned quick smart for Ioane if memory serves. No fucking around from Hansen.
If he was just a bit younger he’d have racked up 100 tests as well.
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Jeez was Carisbrook 2001 really the last time the Wallabies great the ABs in NZ?
Burned in my memory is a test balance of 3-8 from that era.
Australia hosted the Olympics - invested massively in sport (...and probably PEDs...he said darkly)
- and beat the shit out of us at everything.It was an awful time!
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.
They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.
The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.
It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.
I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.
Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.
I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.
Completely agree but also feel conflicted because those that stayed here dont deserve their place either. Its not like he is knocking Conrad Smith out of the squad.
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
They're not that crap though, not really.
Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all.@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
They're not that crap though, not really.
Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all.I think one of the biggest issues the ABs have is not having a carrier in the midfield. That is one of our major competitive advantages over other countries we have (yet don’t utilise it).
Even though they’ve been mediocre recently… Rieko, ALB and Proctor would benefit massively from having a big, direct ball-carrier inside them.
Other teams don’t fear our midfield and will gladly run the blitz defense, as nobody in our midfield can break the defensive line or even the first tackle.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
This is the kind of meme I’d expect @Virgil to post
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
This is the kind of meme I’d expect @Virgil to post
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
This is the kind of meme I’d expect @Virgil to post
@Virgil said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
This is the kind of meme I’d expect @Virgil to post
That’s my boy !!!!!
In your face @NTA
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Is the Myth of Dmac that Sam Casey I'm starting to wonder yesterday he didn't have his so called Pigeons report not that I listened that much tho.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
They're not that crap though, not really.
Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all.I think one of the biggest issues the ABs have is not having a carrier in the midfield. That is one of our major competitive advantages over other countries we have (yet don’t utilise it).
Even though they’ve been mediocre recently… Rieko, ALB and Proctor would benefit massively from having a big, direct ball-carrier inside them.
Other teams don’t fear our midfield and will gladly run the blitz defense, as nobody in our midfield can break the defensive line or even the first tackle.
@hikastags said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
They're not that crap though, not really.
Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all.I think one of the biggest issues the ABs have is not having a carrier in the midfield. That is one of our major competitive advantages over other countries we have (yet don’t utilise it).
Even though they’ve been mediocre recently… Rieko, ALB and Proctor would benefit massively from having a big, direct ball-carrier inside them.
Other teams don’t fear our midfield and will gladly run the blitz defense, as nobody in our midfield can break the defensive line or even the first tackle.
I thought Jordie was supposed to be the big carrier, or did he just seem that way compared to David Havili ?
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No leaks on social media as of yet. Perhaps those types of pages were spying on the fern
@Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
No leaks on social media as of yet. Perhaps those types of pages were spying on the fern
Clear as day. I don't know who (Duluth would know, but wouldn't be allowed to share), but there will be plenty of players, coaches and media who read on here.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
They're not that crap though, not really.
Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all.I think one of the biggest issues the ABs have is not having a carrier in the midfield. That is one of our major competitive advantages over other countries we have (yet don’t utilise it).
Even though they’ve been mediocre recently… Rieko, ALB and Proctor would benefit massively from having a big, direct ball-carrier inside them.
Other teams don’t fear our midfield and will gladly run the blitz defense, as nobody in our midfield can break the defensive line or even the first tackle.
@hikastags said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
They're not that crap though, not really.
Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all.I think one of the biggest issues the ABs have is not having a carrier in the midfield. That is one of our major competitive advantages over other countries we have (yet don’t utilise it).
Even though they’ve been mediocre recently… Rieko, ALB and Proctor would benefit massively from having a big, direct ball-carrier inside them.
Other teams don’t fear our midfield and will gladly run the blitz defense, as nobody in our midfield can break the defensive line or even the first tackle.
Jordie was carrying hard when he first moved to 12.
If you look at stats for 24 September 2022 against the Wallabies:
Jordie Barrett
17 Carries
81 Metres
7 Defenders Beaten
9 PassesJordie can carry it over the gain line but that is not part of Robertson's game plan. Robertson's game plan is about getting it out to the wings with back door passing and the first five either static or running diagonal/sideways.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
They're not that crap though, not really.
Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all.I think one of the biggest issues the ABs have is not having a carrier in the midfield. That is one of our major competitive advantages over other countries we have (yet don’t utilise it).
Even though they’ve been mediocre recently… Rieko, ALB and Proctor would benefit massively from having a big, direct ball-carrier inside them.
Other teams don’t fear our midfield and will gladly run the blitz defense, as nobody in our midfield can break the defensive line or even the first tackle.
Jordie was carrying hard when he first moved to 12.
If you look at stats for 24 September 2022 against the Wallabies:
Jordie Barrett
17 Carries
81 Metres
7 Defenders Beaten
9 PassesJordie can carry it over the gain line but that is not part of Robertson's game plan. Robertson's game plan is about getting it out to the wings with back door passing and the first five either static or running diagonal/sideways.
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@hikastags said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
They're not that crap though, not really.
Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all.I think one of the biggest issues the ABs have is not having a carrier in the midfield. That is one of our major competitive advantages over other countries we have (yet don’t utilise it).
Even though they’ve been mediocre recently… Rieko, ALB and Proctor would benefit massively from having a big, direct ball-carrier inside them.
Other teams don’t fear our midfield and will gladly run the blitz defense, as nobody in our midfield can break the defensive line or even the first tackle.
Jordie was carrying hard when he first moved to 12.
If you look at stats for 24 September 2022 against the Wallabies:
Jordie Barrett
17 Carries
81 Metres
7 Defenders Beaten
9 PassesJordie can carry it over the gain line but that is not part of Robertson's game plan. Robertson's game plan is about getting it out to the wings with back door passing and the first five either static or running diagonal/sideways.
He threw his weight around at Leinster too.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
No leaks on social media as of yet. Perhaps those types of pages were spying on the fern
Clear as day. I don't know who (Duluth would know, but wouldn't be allowed to share), but there will be plenty of players, coaches and media who read on here.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Clear as day. I don't know who (Duluth would know, but wouldn't be allowed to share), but there will be plenty of players, coaches and media who read on here.
What I know is mostly word of mouth stuff
Always loads of journalists lurking. In recent years there's been SR players, a SR assistant coach and loads of family members posting. I'm sure there's plenty I don't know about
Going way way back my favourite example was when a current AB Lock was criticising the AB Hooker and saying he couldn't throw. Somebody corrected him about his lack of lineout knowledge "actually it's a lot more complicated than fans think.."
There was an OKish SR player a few years ago who kept suggesting himself as an AB bolter
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@hikastags said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
They're not that crap though, not really.
Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all.I think one of the biggest issues the ABs have is not having a carrier in the midfield. That is one of our major competitive advantages over other countries we have (yet don’t utilise it).
Even though they’ve been mediocre recently… Rieko, ALB and Proctor would benefit massively from having a big, direct ball-carrier inside them.
Other teams don’t fear our midfield and will gladly run the blitz defense, as nobody in our midfield can break the defensive line or even the first tackle.
I thought Jordie was supposed to be the big carrier, or did he just seem that way compared to David Havili ?
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I thought Jordie was supposed to be the big carrier, or did he just seem that way compared to David Havili ?
He’s big. But too tall and skinny to be a primary ball-carrier. Look at how the Saffas launch themselves at him… They chop him down like nothing.
I’m quite firmly of the belief Jordie should be our 15 and a Tupaea / Timoci / Leicester should be at 12. A carrier at 12 gives hesitation to the blitz D and they can’t just fly up and nail the likes of Jordie.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
They're not that crap though, not really.
Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all.I think one of the biggest issues the ABs have is not having a carrier in the midfield. That is one of our major competitive advantages over other countries we have (yet don’t utilise it).
Even though they’ve been mediocre recently… Rieko, ALB and Proctor would benefit massively from having a big, direct ball-carrier inside them.
Other teams don’t fear our midfield and will gladly run the blitz defense, as nobody in our midfield can break the defensive line or even the first tackle.
Jordie was carrying hard when he first moved to 12.
If you look at stats for 24 September 2022 against the Wallabies:
Jordie Barrett
17 Carries
81 Metres
7 Defenders Beaten
9 PassesJordie can carry it over the gain line but that is not part of Robertson's game plan. Robertson's game plan is about getting it out to the wings with back door passing and the first five either static or running diagonal/sideways.
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@hikastags said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
They're not that crap though, not really.
Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all.I think one of the biggest issues the ABs have is not having a carrier in the midfield. That is one of our major competitive advantages over other countries we have (yet don’t utilise it).
Even though they’ve been mediocre recently… Rieko, ALB and Proctor would benefit massively from having a big, direct ball-carrier inside them.
Other teams don’t fear our midfield and will gladly run the blitz defense, as nobody in our midfield can break the defensive line or even the first tackle.
Jordie was carrying hard when he first moved to 12.
If you look at stats for 24 September 2022 against the Wallabies:
Jordie Barrett
17 Carries
81 Metres
7 Defenders Beaten
9 PassesJordie can carry it over the gain line but that is not part of Robertson's game plan. Robertson's game plan is about getting it out to the wings with back door passing and the first five either static or running diagonal/sideways.
I agree, but Aussie was a piece of piss back then. He’s not doing that vs the elite teams (SA & France)
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Ardie captain.
@SouthernMann if true, that is both good and bad...
Good that one of SB or Razor realises that SB isnt the right option, but bad cos of how Ardie seemed to drop his bundle last week like many others....
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1 E.De Groot
2. C.Taylor
3. T.Lomax
4. F. Holland
5. T. Vaa’i
6. S. Parker
7. A. Savea (capt)
8. W. Sititi
9. C.Roigard
10. B.Barrett
11. C.Clarke
12. J.Barrett
13. B.Proctor
14. L.Carter
15. W.Jordan- S.Taukei’aho
- T.Williams
- F.Newell
19 P.Tuipulotu - P.Lakai
- C.Ratima
- Q.Tupaea
- D.McKenzie
Unavailable:
S.Barrett (shoulder)
O.Norris (back)
E.Narawa (rib fracture)
T.Tavatavanawai (fractured radius) -
1 E.De Groot
2. C.Taylor
3. T.Lomax
4. F. Holland
5. T. Vaa’i
6. S. Parker
7. A. Savea (capt)
8. W. Sititi
9. C.Roigard
10. B.Barrett
11. C.Clarke
12. J.Barrett
13. B.Proctor
14. L.Carter
15. W.Jordan- S.Taukei’aho
- T.Williams
- F.Newell
19 P.Tuipulotu - P.Lakai
- C.Ratima
- Q.Tupaea
- D.McKenzie
Unavailable:
S.Barrett (shoulder)
O.Norris (back)
E.Narawa (rib fracture)
T.Tavatavanawai (fractured radius)@Number-10 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
1 E.De Groot
2. C.Taylor
3. T.Lomax
4. F. Holland
5. T. Vaa’i
6. S. Parker
7. A. Savea (capt)
8. W. Sititi
9. C.Roigard
10. B.Barrett
11. C.Clarke
12. J.Barrett
13. B.Proctor
14. L.Carter
15. W.Jordan- S.Taukei’aho
- T.Williams
- F.Newell
19 P.Tuipulotu - P.Lakai
- C.Ratima
- Q.Tupaea
- D.McKenzie
Unavailable:
S.Barrett (shoulder)
O.Norris (back)
E.Narawa (rib fracture)
T.Tavatavanawai (fractured radius)This team is bang on.
