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  • His BobnessH Offline
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    @canefan Yes, but I think that’s his point. It’s always going to be a little bit of playing to the game plan and playing what’s in front of you. The backs look like they’re being over-coached to the point they don’t trust their own instincts. I think something is fundamentally wrong in the coaching setup.

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    It's luvly jubbly having a forward pack. It's been a long time coming.
    I feel we can now go toe to toe with the SA pack.

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    @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @brodean cant say i’m fully sold on Proctor myself but what i am saying he deserves a full season to bed in
    Besides i dont see too many other options staring us in the face
    It would be pointless going back to Reiko if your trying to develop your attack i just dont see the guy as natural distributor and hes played plenty of rugby at 13 for both the Blues and the ABs .
    If we have losses where theres disfunction in those particular areas by all means make changes but in the mean time no need to change Proctor imo
    Just for the record whom would you bring in ?

    I agree. He's shown at SR level he has the capability, I feel it's worth more time in the saddle to see if he can steadily improve.

    Dumping him now would surely destroy his confidence.

    The player that most needs to be put on the pine is the one player they won't: Ardie Savea. Why aren't we discussing his "impact" more openly? Or is it enough he didn't try another chip kick in our own 22?

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    Love needs to be in the 23.
    We need to experiment.
    Love to 15 /10 or wing Do some goal kicking.
    Give DMac game time.
    Jordan swap at times to wing
    Give Proctor more time
    Aimless kicks are a nightmare

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    @His-Bobness just need a decent 10 who knows how to manage this game plan. Oh wait he’s coming back soon.

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    One or two fullas need to retire

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    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @His-Bobness just need a decent 10 who knows how to manage this game plan. Oh wait he’s coming back soon.

    Dan's a bit old for a comeback.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    It's luvly jubbly having a forward pack. It's been a long time coming.
    I feel we can now go toe to toe with the SA pack.

    Early days - but, shifting Vaa'i to 6 might be a masterstroke - our own version of PSdT.

    At full strength (soon, but maybe not yet), we could go:

    Williams, Taylor, Lomax, Holland, Barrett, Vaa'i, Savea, Sititi
    deGroot, Taukei'aho, Newell, Tuipolotu, Parker, Lakai (6/2 split if we want it)

    For now, probably Finau and Jacobson for Parker and Lakai.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    It's luvly jubbly having a forward pack. It's been a long time coming.
    I feel we can now go toe to toe with the SA pack.

    From memory we played them last year on about 40 percent possession , not enough ball in reality , it may have worked in the past,

    I suspect if we can even the possession stats we will have them very concerned

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    @kiwiinmelb Add in Sititi and Roigard and things are sweet.
    Flyhalf is a major problem area though.

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    I think nobody has cited them so far but Norris and Tosi were huge in the mauls. Their big physical presence was something the Argies couldn't match in the tight. With Sami T and Tuipolutu, they brought a brute force to the pack.

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    #724

    A Clarke Love Jordan combo could be spicy.

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    With Clarke injured, they should try a Carter Love Jordan combo. But this could be of no avail with the current halfbacks. Ratima and Christie were both incredibly poor. With AN Other, the winning margin would have been bigger (around + 30 IMO).

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    Regardless of anything we are in a much better position than we have been in for years JOY

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    I don't understand the desire of some to move Jordan to wing to accommodate love. Jordan is one of our few world class players and needs as many minutes at 15

    Love on the right wing is definitely worth a try though

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    @BerniesCorner it’s not really. We’ve got the greatest super rugby player of all time coming back next year

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    @Chuck72 Razors not shifting Will Jordan for anyone. Prime Christian Cullen maybe.

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    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @BerniesCorner it’s not really. We’ve got the greatest super rugby player of all time coming back next year

    All Blacks are gonna be favourites to win Super Rugby that's for sure

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    Just thinking, the more Parker doesn't play the better he's getting.

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    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @Chuck72 Razors not shifting Will Jordan for anyone. Prime Christian Cullen maybe.

    Cully can go to centre and fix the problem there....

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