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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    wrote last edited by
    #716

    Love needs to be in the 23.
    We need to experiment.
    Love to 15 /10 or wing Do some goal kicking.
    Give DMac game time.
    Jordan swap at times to wing
    Give Proctor more time
    Aimless kicks are a nightmare

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    @His-Bobness just need a decent 10 who knows how to manage this game plan. Oh wait he’s coming back soon.

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    One or two fullas need to retire

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    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @His-Bobness just need a decent 10 who knows how to manage this game plan. Oh wait he’s coming back soon.

    Dan's a bit old for a comeback.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    It's luvly jubbly having a forward pack. It's been a long time coming.
    I feel we can now go toe to toe with the SA pack.

    Early days - but, shifting Vaa'i to 6 might be a masterstroke - our own version of PSdT.

    At full strength (soon, but maybe not yet), we could go:

    Williams, Taylor, Lomax, Holland, Barrett, Vaa'i, Savea, Sititi
    deGroot, Taukei'aho, Newell, Tuipolotu, Parker, Lakai (6/2 split if we want it)

    For now, probably Finau and Jacobson for Parker and Lakai.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    It's luvly jubbly having a forward pack. It's been a long time coming.
    I feel we can now go toe to toe with the SA pack.

    From memory we played them last year on about 40 percent possession , not enough ball in reality , it may have worked in the past,

    I suspect if we can even the possession stats we will have them very concerned

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    @kiwiinmelb Add in Sititi and Roigard and things are sweet.
    Flyhalf is a major problem area though.

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    I think nobody has cited them so far but Norris and Tosi were huge in the mauls. Their big physical presence was something the Argies couldn't match in the tight. With Sami T and Tuipolutu, they brought a brute force to the pack.

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    #724

    A Clarke Love Jordan combo could be spicy.

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    #725

    With Clarke injured, they should try a Carter Love Jordan combo. But this could be of no avail with the current halfbacks. Ratima and Christie were both incredibly poor. With AN Other, the winning margin would have been bigger (around + 30 IMO).

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    #726

    Regardless of anything we are in a much better position than we have been in for years JOY

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    #727

    I don't understand the desire of some to move Jordan to wing to accommodate love. Jordan is one of our few world class players and needs as many minutes at 15

    Love on the right wing is definitely worth a try though

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    replied to BerniesCorner last edited by
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    @BerniesCorner it’s not really. We’ve got the greatest super rugby player of all time coming back next year

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    @Chuck72 Razors not shifting Will Jordan for anyone. Prime Christian Cullen maybe.

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    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @BerniesCorner it’s not really. We’ve got the greatest super rugby player of all time coming back next year

    All Blacks are gonna be favourites to win Super Rugby that's for sure

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    Just thinking, the more Parker doesn't play the better he's getting.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @Chuck72 Razors not shifting Will Jordan for anyone. Prime Christian Cullen maybe.

    Cully can go to centre and fix the problem there....

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    @Wurzel said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    It takes some effort to play in four All Blacks Test wins and never impose yourself on a game.

    Took Vaa'i more than that, to be fair.

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    #734

    Random thoughts:

    • Don't go for blaming just Christie for Argentina getting back into the game. Things went to poo collectively. And lets face it, he;s probably no. 5 in the pecking order

    • Liked the way we battled back and scored two tries by doing the basics well. If that was an on-field leadership, kudos to Ardie as it wasn't coming from Scott Barrett.

    • Agree with all the comments about the backs playing too fast/flashy. Who runs the backline? Is anyone running the backline? Can;t expect a rookie 13 to shine playing in that environment. Nor Roigard to manufacture a magically transformation. Serious work needed,

    • ALB was awful. Admire his loyalty after being fucked around by coach after coach but he really should hang up his boots

    • We really have some depth in the tight 5. Think we'll have a settled Vaa'i/RD/Wallace combination by the end of the RC. Can't wait.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    @Wurzel said in All Blacks v Argentina I:

    It takes some effort to play in four All Blacks Test wins and never impose yourself on a game.

    Took Vaa'i more than that, to be fair.

    Due to injury Vaai had to start his 2nd test at lock in an Eden Park Bledisloe (after Wallabies drew test 1 the week before) as a 20 year old and he had a fine game - second test of the Foster era

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